Obama won!
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Glace said:
In case you want to know the reason why we don't like abortion here it is: abortion is the planned killing of a baby. If it isn't that, please shoot me. I really don't see why people like abortion, please shine some light on why killing babies is acceptable in this society. Abortion is truly the act of savagery.
As for gay marriage, I am not for or against it. I believe everyone should have the chance to marry, gay or straight, but you can't seal it on my Bible. I you want gay marriage, it should be a civil union or such.
doublenikesocks said:
if done in the first 6 months, the fetus has not changed into a baby, so you are not killing a baby. You are preventing a baby from "happening", but no baby dies. (Happening means when the fetus actually becomes a baby, develops, etc) There are many other gross examples of how babies can be prevented from "happening", which I will go into if you want.
I'd rather not shoot you though
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DirtyDan said:
Oh man that grammar.
GUYS, I GET THAT OBAMA DIDN'T DO MUCH, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT HE ISN'T A COMPLETE DICTATOR AND HE DOESN'T HAVE SUPREME RULE. The house is for the most part Conservative, so as far him trying to impose new laws goes, they'll just block anything he proposes. It's hard to do anything in 4 years, let alone when the Senate won't let you do much.
Also saying he did "nothing good" is a completely ridiculous statement. I don't care where you guys stand on Obamacare and his stimulus, but he killed Osama. That is not nothing. Also, he pulled nearly everyone out of Iraq, is getting people out of Afghanistan, and creates 160,000 jobs a month.
So I mean, saying he did NOTHING good is nonsense.
I consider, as most other Christians do, as the baby to be formed when fertilization occurs. A human is a human in any state, old, young, unborn, ect. And when you abort a baby, you take away its rights to life, as guaranteed by the Constitution. You waste its potential to be a human when you just mercilessly take its life away for your own good. Abortion is just selfish and evil.Glace said:doublenikesocks said:
if done in the first 6 months, the fetus has not changed into a baby, so you are not killing a baby. You are preventing a baby from "happening", but no baby dies. (Happening means when the fetus actually becomes a baby, develops, etc) There are many other gross examples of how babies can be prevented from "happening", which I will go into if you want.
I'd rather not shoot you though
Princess Skarmory said:
I get your point about Osama because I hate him so I guess Obama is ok, but really 160,000 jobs a month is hard to believe for me my dad is always getting laid off.
Glace said:
No. That's just spinning what I said. The fact the the life has already begun is why abortion is immoral. When two people don't have sex, that's just abstinence. Not abortion.
Glace said:
/thread so hard
Seriously doublenike, I get that you're a christian, and it is technically killing something, but if it's going to grow up poor, not fed, well educated, psychologically tended to, would you rather it deal with that, or it be killed before it's sentient?
I agree with that if a baby is gonna suffer his whole life you might as well put them out of their misery.Princess Skarmory said:
I think we should get back on topic before this gets locked again or something.
I don't really like abortion but thats just because it seems so wrong. But Meatheart(Princess Skarm) makes a good point. but also if there is a risk of you ending up with a child and you know you can't raise the child, don't take the risk. but of course no one will ever do that.
I don't really like abortion but thats just because it seems so wrong. But Meatheart(Princess Skarm) makes a good point. but also if there is a risk of you ending up with a child and you know you can't raise the child, don't take the risk. but of course no one will ever do that.
Glace said:
Whatever you say. My opinion is mine and yours is yours. If you believe that killing babies is fine, fine. 1st degree murder might as well be legal is abortion is legal. (only 1st degree, planned murder. I don't get how any murder should be legal.)
The fact is, most abortions are because of a single mother that has a wild night and gets pregnant, but is too immature/busy to care for a baby. If you aren't ready for a baby, you shouldn't be having sex, or you should use some form of birth control. Not killing your baby.Princess Skarmory said:
Not saying any more until Raikou replys to my post.
doublenikesocks said:
this isn't a fact at all :F
DNA said:
Coming from a former mod, I can't say I'd agree that it is right to close a thread to get people to shut up because you are annoyed for personal reasons. This topic obviously warrants discussion.
doublenikesocks said:
I do not see a reason to argue with you when you believe a well-known, proven, scientific rule is not true.
Killing a fetus is like killing a dead body. It doesn't taken any life away.
After 8 months, it is, but that is too late for an abortion to happen.
I suppose being a Stolen victim is entirely different. I guess I don't know what to say anymore on this. On one side I feel it is wrong to not allow a baby to be born but I also believe everything happens for a reason and do think Stolen victims should be able to do something about something they have no control over. I guess I'm undecided.