Obama won!

Card Slinger J said:
also I don't see how expensive gas prices in Germany equals a thriving economy in that country.

I'd like to point out that this is mostly because the oil exchange rate is in USD making it cheaper for people who deal in it, like the US. It also doesn't hurt these countries as badly because they are smaller and have much better public transportation systems (which is what I wish we had in the US).

I am also pleased that Obama won, I'm just disappointed that the house will be causing nothing to get done over the next two years at least.
 
European countries have amazing public transportation systems. At least countries like Austria, Germany and Finland (the ones I have been in.) ;P

If you live in a city, you don't need a car. Many have one, but it's not needed.
 
Teal said:
PumpedAaron said:
We also similarly listen to Conservative talk radio, and from there we learned about these terrorists that murdered the Libyan Ambassador, along with his staff, Stolen them before murdering them, even!

I didn't vote, so I don't have a right to complain about the result, but I still hope Obama SOLVES those problems I just talked about....[/color]
How can you expect anyone to "solve" the issue of a Stolen murder.

Well y'know, decimate them in some way so that they can't commit any more heinous crimes, because they sure as hell want too!!
 
That's not the president's problem. Also that's not how life works.

Man, I want to say a few true words, but I would rather not risk a warning now.
 
Non Sequitur said:
TheGuy said:
I am also pleased that Obama won, I'm just disappointed that the house will be causing nothing to get done over the next two years at least.

Are you serious?
The house is the only chance we have to get anything done this term (after repealing Obamacare first)!
Obama has done nothing over the last couple years and he won't do anything here either.
He relied completely on uninformed/misinformed voters this term.

Guy wasn't ripping on the House, there's no need to get angry and start attacking the president. Let's all just be friends :)

Guy was pointing out one of the weaknesses America suffers from. Whatever the President wants to get done, the House wants to go in the opposite direction. Whatever the House wants to get done, the President goes in the opposite direction. Guy wasn't ripping on either party, he was just pointing out how nothing will probably get done because of the clashing that normally happens. It's not solely the House's fault, nor is it solely Obama's fault.
 
Non Sequitur said:
Are you serious?
The house is the only chance we have to get anything done this term (after repealing Obamacare first)!
Obama has done nothing over the last couple years and he won't do anything here either.
He relied completely on uninformed/misinformed voters this term.


Like One Approved said, the HOR was mostly responsible for shooting down most of the laws/bills Obama appealed to them, simply due to Obama being a Democrat. If the legislature (and the entire country, at that) keeps the same Red vs. Blue attitude we had during the past term, then yes, nothing will be done.
 
Well, I honestly I dont care much for politics and the president doesn't really make much of a difference anyways. And I think it is strange to vote for someone with similar personal beliefs over what they would do for the country. I mean he is representing your country, so there's that. I guess I just don't understand. I kinda wanted romney to win since Obama didn't really do anything, but in the end I really don't care. I kinda knew he would win anyways "just cuz".

I'm too young to vote anyways. But come next election, I guess I'll have to take some responsibility.

In the end though, I don't really care.

In a somewhat related note, I think a fun thing to do would get get a TON of people to write-in the most common name in the US and watch the confusement when he wins.
 
Non Sequitur said:
>after repealing Obamacare first
You were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. How good for you. It's easy to talk if you only have to worry about "the economical state of the USA". You have obviously no idea that everyone else is not born under the same circumstances, and I'm talking about US residents here. Stop being a greedy jerk and look up from your own navel - there are other people in this world too. "No I'm not greedy, xyz." Stop lying to yourself.

"Oooh ooh shut up you democrat!"
lolno, you don't know who I vote for.
Every single party in Finland approves of free public healthcare, free public geriatric care, etc.
The USA has been stuck in the past.

CSJ:s "sosialism rumour": welcome to Finland. We have the best schools in the world, we are one of the most educated nations and we have a comprehensive "social aid network". Lost your job? Come get money and look for a new one or educate yourself. Broke your leg? Welcome to our hospital. Got no car? Use these cheap busses (trains, tram, subway)! etc. etc.

I'm not saying that Finland is the best and you guys suck (I hate Finland and I want to move away. Mainly because of the climate, though). I say that socialism works, as you can see (if you open your eyes and start caring about others too). Is Finland in debt? Heck yes it is. Much? "Much". But guess what! Finland is actually one of the only EU countries that isn't breaking the EU rules of the debt limit. What is Finland doing? Loaning money to Greece. Does Finland have any problems? Of course it does (fex. urbanization, baby boomers).

But, Non Sequitur, with such opinions, do you consider yourself civilized? Currently, you shouldn't. You can't. That is not what a cilivlized person would say.
 
Essentially don't attack people personally. As outrageous as some people's opinions are, you cannot call them stupid to their face :p

Fiercely attacking in an argument is A-Ok though :D
 
Don't really have too much to say on the matter. I'm just happy America gets another 4 years of Obama because I prefer socialism as a whole.

Also found this and thought it was interesting:

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What I learned from this thread is:

Everyone on Pokebeach is a Democrat, non-American, or doesn't care.

And Non Sequitur is the only Republican.

The Only Logical Conclusion: Democrats are better than Republicans at Pokemon Battles!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ikKroAqKc

You can call Obama names like "socialist" or "liberal", but people act like it's an insult. It's not. A lot of Presidents have had policies today's Republican party would call "extreme" but they have benefited us greatly in the long run. If anything is extreme, it's how far Republicans have shifted to the right the past few years. I hope they wake up and realize they need to work with Democrats and support progress like they did in the past, instead of this new "Tea Party" BS. Also throwing in there, that a lot of people don't see a difference if they didn't have problems solved by some of the changes Obama made during his first term. He is outstanding on social issues (and if you don't think social issues don't affect the economy, think again). For someone without healthcare before Obamacare, now able to go to college, and wanting to be treated equal in the eyes of the law, he has made great strides.
 
I feel mostly sorry for the Republicans. In my opinion, the way they've been running things have been pretty...I don't know... sort of bad or poor. A few use common sense and try to support both parties (I've seen one Republican do this), but they get turned down or thrown out of the party. I do feel anger towards them, but at the same time I sort of pity them. What I've been told is that they used to be open-minded a few years back then, but then the Republicans changed. What my current opinion of them is that they only want money, and more, more money. Or at least I think so.

I'm leaning towards the democrats now, but what I think I want to do is to try and... help Republicans become better for the sake of the United States of America.
 
DirtyDan said:
I honestly didnt care who won I think they both suck.

I agree with this.. Though the things I've heard from my brother and dad about Obama I really wish that Romney won. Don't attack me anyone, I honestly don't know about politics and only heard things through family. But the things I did hear made me quite sick/worried that we have him as our leader.

Also to clear things up before I get dragged into the current argument about Obamacare, we live below most people and literally would crash and burn without Food Stamps and the likes. So the fact that my dad still dislikes Obama despite the fact that WE should be at an advantage with him in office tells me something.
 
SotS said:
DirtyDan said:
I honestly didnt care who won I think they both suck.

I agree with this.. Though the things I've heard from my brother and dad about Obama I really wish that Romney won. Don't attack me anyone, I honestly don't know about politics and only heard things through family. But the things I did hear made me quite sick/worried that we have him as our leader.

Also to clear things up before I get dragged into the current argument about Obamacare, we live below most people and literally would crash and burn without Food Stamps and the likes. So the fact that my dad still dislikes Obama despite the fact that WE should be at an advantage with him in office tells me something.
Ikr and Obama didnt do nothing good in his 4 years and probaply when hes done this next 4 years we will be like a quadrillon dollers in debt and taxes will be very high!!!!
 
DirtyDan said:
SotS said:
I agree with this.. Though the things I've heard from my brother and dad about Obama I really wish that Romney won. Don't attack me anyone, I honestly don't know about politics and only heard things through family. But the things I did hear made me quite sick/worried that we have him as our leader.

Also to clear things up before I get dragged into the current argument about Obamacare, we live below most people and literally would crash and burn without Food Stamps and the likes. So the fact that my dad still dislikes Obama despite the fact that WE should be at an advantage with him in office tells me something.
Ikr and Obama didnt do nothing good in his 4 years and probaply when hes done this next 4 years we will be like a quadrillon dollers in debt and taxes will be very high!!!!!!!

I would like you to provide me with some evidence of how we will be that far in debt and how taxes will be that high.

Also, Obama did a lot in his first four years considering the last 2 of them he couldn't do much. This includes Obamacare and the Auto Bailout which has saved my state's (Ohio's) economy and thousands of jobs that Romney would have had fail. Romney would have had the unemployment rate increase further.

On another note, something they don't cover in school as much as I'd like: During one's first term as president, you spend the entire time trying to get reelected, now that Obama is over that hump, he can do more and not have to worry about winning another election.
 
Shining Raikou said:
instead of this new "Tea Party" BS.

Just going to say that I almost take this to flaming, as I am a proud "Taxed Enough Already" Party member and that what you said isn't what we represent. You claim that we don't want to work with the other party, yet all we want is freedom. You also give no evidence, just claiming we as a group, are "BS." Thank you very much and I am proud to be a conservative on PokeBeach. Please keep your opinions of other groups to yourself if you're going to be that negative.
 
doublenikesocks said:
all we want is freedom.

Do you think Akin, a Tea Party ex-candidate, was right when he said women only get pregnant from Stolen if they want to? If all you want is freedom, why not let women free to have abortions, allow gays freedom to marry, etc?
 
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