Yveltal EX / Darkrai EX

Discussion in 'PTCG Competitive Play' started by Blah, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Aggressiv Aspiring Trainer
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    The supporter line is -1 skyla with 1 RR and it's the exact same.

    Imo, scrapper is better. Especially with float stone flying around (haha I'm so funny), plus junk hunting for it is pretty good when faced with garbodor. Get rid of their float stones then catcher stall garbodor till the cows come home. I've done a little testing with switch but the only cases I've used it is with garbodor, and when I need to get the active out of that spot and it has no energy on it.

    Switch- Potentially clutch

    Tool Scrapper- More verstatile imo. I mean a lot of decks run float stone if they run switch too, so the card is rarely dead.
     


  2. blargh257 IT'S BEEN THREE THOUSAND YEARS
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    I love Absol. I'll probably run Darkrai at some point and will run as many Absol as Darkrai. It fits me well.
     
  3. EmmetCHH22 Aspiring Trainer
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    The need for absol is very slim. I won today with only one absol it's fine trust me
     
  4. blargh257 IT'S BEEN THREE THOUSAND YEARS
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    While that is true, I have a lot of fun with the card and its ability to attack for a lot using very little.
     
  5. Aggressiv Aspiring Trainer
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    POTENTIALLY a lot.

    You could be stuck dealing 40-60 for 2, which is pretty bad. Some decks are able to restrict their bench sizes, which is bad news for absol. And if you keep a heavy focus on absol, you're more likely to start with him more often which is bad against everything but rayeels and TDK.
     
  6. Blui lv85 paladin
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    That's when you use Darkrai-EX. Absol makes them want a small bench and then Darkrai comes in at starts messing stuff up.
     
  7. Aggressiv Aspiring Trainer
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    Right, but rayeels for example won't care about Absol. To operate properly they have to have a full bench, and will simply setup and take big damage, but if you go anything with landorus and run heavy absol you'll get destroyed.

    Not to mention simply "using Darkrai EX" costs 3 energy, which in most games till take till t2-t3. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Absol isn't as good as people think it is, if you're matched eels or TDK it usually does pretty well, but when you're not you're stuck with a sub-par attacker. Wheras darkrai can be solid in any matchup, and if your line is something like 3-2 absol darkrai you're going to be really good against certain decks, but will fall out against others.
     
  8. Blui lv85 paladin
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    T2 isn't that hard, and later on it's pretty easy to pull one out in a turn.
     
  9. Aggressiv Aspiring Trainer
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    T2 is maybe 1/3 of the time, it's usually been t3 from my experience. My point was that absol is a 1-2 of and doesn't deserve more focus than that until the format rotates either changes to many more evolution decks, more EX decks that need full benches all the time.
     
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  10. zero2exe Aspiring Trainer
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    Agreed, absol is good but still not THAT good. I think I read a comment before that hit it right on the nail "Absol is good when it is played along Darkrai because it is an inconsistent card working along with a consistent one (Darkrai)".
    However lets not forget that absol is a non-ex unlike darkrai and although landorus is a threat he can not OHKO absol T1 even with laser/bank combo + weakness (which caps at 90) thanks to the magical 100hp so at least you have a chance to hit back before going down and have darkrai deal the final blow (in an ideal scenario though :p )
     
  11. MrGatr Goin Rogue Baby :DDD
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    Just wondering and thinking crazy here, but what would you guys think of Darkrai/Terrakion/Lasers?? I'm really trying to find a rogueish deck and so far I can't find anything (STUPID GOTHITELLE)
     
  12. Dork Void #OCCUPYALLTHINGS
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    What exactly is Terrakion supposed to do? To counter Gothitelle you can run a Keldeo or two with Darkrai.
     
  13. Aggressiv Aspiring Trainer
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    This is a little off topic but run Beartic Umbreon. Auto 1-shot any EX if you have 90 dmg counters on a 170-210 poke. (2 umbreon-3 umbreon + giant cape)
     
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  14. MrGatr Goin Rogue Baby :DDD
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    I never mentioned it countering Gothitelle -.- I was stating that Gothitelle ruins every rogue deck that I come up with...

    Learn to read
     
  15. Dork Void #OCCUPYALLTHINGS
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    And I told you how to prevent Gothitelle from ruining every rogue deck that you come up with. Its what a 2-3 card Keldeo tech? Using Darkrai+Dark Energy with the Keldeo is even better.
     
  16. MrGatr Goin Rogue Baby :DDD
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    Could you just tell me if Darkrai/Lasers/Terrakion would work??
     
  17. Dork Void #OCCUPYALLTHINGS
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

     
  18. MrGatr Goin Rogue Baby :DDD
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    -.- It's Terrakion. It OHKO's Thundo EX, and Darkrai EX, and luls at the prize trade.
     
  19. Dork Void #OCCUPYALLTHINGS
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    Except that its Terrakion. Its terrible now because of how easy it is to OHKO, the fact that no deck has room for Exp. Shares to do anything about it being OHKOed, Dark Patch and Colress Machine don't work on it, and if the opponent gets KOs with HTL (relatively common) then Terrak can't Revenge and becomes extremely useless. Sure it beats Thundurus EX but Kyurem Plasma rofls at it, and so do Blastoise decks. Since Darkrai decks run HTL its not even effective against him.
     
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  20. Bo$$_89 Two Posts a Day Kept the Trolls Away
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    RE: Darkrai EX / Sableye / Hypnotoxic Laser / Virbank City Gym

    Actually it does work. You play prism and energy switch so that when a different Pokemon gets ko'd you play terrakion retreat energy switch prism. I ran terrakion throughout states and it was great
     

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