Discussion Paldean Fates Official Setlist (SV4.5)

One thing I find worrying is that neither Ninjask nor N's Rhyperior have had any input on this since last month.
Why is that worrying?

Maybe they found other communities since this forum is pretty dead.

Or maybe they lost interest because the set kinda sucks.
 
Why is that worrying?

Maybe they found other communities since this forum is pretty dead.

Or maybe they lost interest because the set kinda sucks.
As far as I know Rhyperior was banned for whatever reason and Ninjask was a secondary account they made to circunvent the ban so it was banned also.
But yeah, I don't see how or why is it worrying that they didn't contribute to this. I think we have made a fine job as it is.
 
Seems like Gym series 4 promos might actually be in this set. I have updated the core set and we have closed on 91 cards. Still missing one tera card but that might be them just considering Forretress ex from the secret rares. We'll have to see some english card numbers to speculate further.
 
Here's my suggested list:

1. Pineco
2. Forretress ex
3. Maractus
4. Capsakid
5. Scovillain ex
6. Espathra ex
7. Charmander
8. Charmeleon
9. Charizard ex
10. Magmar
11. Magmortar
12. Numel
13. Camerupt
14. Heat Rotom
15. Pansear
16. Simisear
17. Horsea
18. Lapras
19. Carvanha
20. Sharpedo
21. Frigibax
22. Arctibax
23. Baxcalibur
24. Chinchou
25. Lanturn
26. Toxel
27. Toxtricity
28. Tadbulb
29. Bellibolt
30. Wattrel
31. Kilowattrel
32. Exeggcute
33. Exeggutor
34. Cleffa
35. Natu
36. Xatu
37. Chimecho
38. Latias
39. Mime Jr.
40. Woobat
41. Swoobat
42. Cottonee
43. Whimsicott
44. Yamask
45. Dedenne
46. Flittle
47. Tinkatink
48. Tinkatuff
49. Tinkaton
50. Gimmighoul
51. Phanpy
52. Donphan
53. Larvitar
54. Pupitar
55. Barboach
56. Whiscash
57. Clobbopus
58. Grapploct
59. Nacli
60. Naclstack
61. Garganacl ex
62. Great Tusk ex
63. Charizard ex
64. Gastly
65. Haunter
66. Gengar
67. Tyranitar
68. Scraggy
69. Scrafty
70. Maschiff
71. Mabostiff ex
72. Varoom
73. Revavroom
74. Iron Treads ex
75. Gholdengo
76. Cyclizar
77. Porygon
78. Porygon2
79. Porygon-Z
80. Shroodle
81. Grafaiai ex
82. Cyclizar
83. Atticus
84. Clive
85. Moonlit Hill
86. Nemona
87. Nemona's Backpack
88. Raifort
89. Students in Paldea
90. Students in Paldea
91. Technical Machine: Crisis Shot
 
Seems like Gym series 4 promos might actually be in this set. I have updated the core set and we have closed on 91 cards. Still missing one tera card but that might be them just considering Forretress ex from the secret rares. We'll have to see some english card numbers to speculate further.
I feel like the press release is just wrong. Doesn't make sense as to why there's another SSR cut or where another tera ex is coming from.

Also you say 091/091 but I only count 87 cards - what are the other 4?

As for SRs, unfortunately Brassius and Atticus will not be getting them since there is no space in the JP set before SR Judge. Really sucks. Furthermore, there can only be at max 4 others after Judge, if not 3 which also means that Youngster won't get one and even Nemona might miss out unless they condense the Students into 1 card.

Really crap from TPC. Quite a number of Gen 9 Pokemon missing, now not all supporters getting SRs.
 
Oh good. Latias has been added to the partial set list. Maybe this will be a good set after all. Mime Jr.'s inclusion is a welcome boost because it means that once Paldean Fates is released, it will be six down and ten to go regarding the Baby Pokémon as they have already released Cleffa, Elekid, Magby, Bonsly and Mantyke respectively, the second of the five was a nice surprise, so I'm happy about that.
 
I feel like the press release is just wrong. Doesn't make sense as to why there's another SSR cut or where another tera ex is coming from.

Also you say 091/091 but I only count 87 cards - what are the other 4?

As for SRs, unfortunately Brassius and Atticus will not be getting them since there is no space in the JP set before SR Judge. Really sucks. Furthermore, there can only be at max 4 others after Judge, if not 3 which also means that Youngster won't get one and even Nemona might miss out unless they condense the Students into 1 card.

Really crap from TPC. Quite a number of Gen 9 Pokemon missing, now not all supporters getting SRs.
It has happen before that the press release contained different listings to what was actually in the set, so I don't exclude the possibility that it might be wrong. It's such a weird listing they made.

I suck at japanese so I didn't try to actually test what cards might be cut from the candidates. But yeah, I think Students might be actuall just one card.

And I really think they fumbled this one. Some of the older pokémon don't really have that much of a relevant card to be in the set instead of some gen 9 pokémon. Also, I wish they would stop giving special cards to pokémon (and supporters) that already got them. Use others instead. Why did we need another Arven SIR when they could've used another supporter that doesn't have one?
 
Out of interest, what helped you decide to add Latias to the prospective set list?
Lack of cards. Without the series 4 promos and Latias, there was no way to get to the 91 cards (even with the reprints added).
But I've seen people on twitter saying that leakers are saying that those cards are not in the set, so idk. We'll have to wait for some of the cards from the actual set to be revealed to see if they fit or not.
 
Lack of cards. Without the series 4 promos and Latias, there was no way to get to the 91 cards (even with the reprints added).
But I've seen people on twitter saying that leakers are saying that those cards are not in the set, so idk. We'll have to wait for some of the cards from the actual set to be revealed
If I were you, I would take the leaker's word with a pinch of salt, as a leaker is someone who has unauthorized access to certain things extremely early. Riddler Khu is a perfect example of this.
 
Without the two baby shinies that shouldn't exist (likely Gimmighoul and Gholdengo) it seems like the numbers align without problem. So that 11 shiny exs in the press release was actually wrong and there shouldn't be any more exs cut for promos.
 
If I were you, I would take the leaker's word with a pinch of salt, as a leaker is someone who has unauthorized access to certain things extremely early. Riddler Khu is a perfect example of this.
TCG leakers are usually people that work in the printing factories, It's too unlikely that anything will change once cards are already in production.
 
CORE SET (091/091)

regular exs: 07/07
tera pokémon exs: 02/03


[???] Maractus (Ancient Roar)
[???] Capsakid (speculation, SVI#028)
[???] Scovillain
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(Gym Promo series 3)
[???] Espathra
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(Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Charmander (speculation, MEW#004)
[???] Charmeleon (Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Magmar (Starter Deck Tera Skeledirge ex)
[???] Magmortar (Starter Deck Tera Skeledirge ex)
[???] Numel (Ancient Roar)
[???] Camerupt
(Ancient Roar)
[???] Heat Rotom (Starter Deck Tera Skeledirge ex)
[???] Pansear (Gym Promo series 4, PAR#020)
[???] Simisear (speculation, PAR#021)

[???] Horsea (Gym Promo series 4, PAR#030)
[???] Seadra (speculation, unknown origin)
[???] Kingdra (speculation, PAR#032)
[???] Lapras (Raging Surf)
[???] Carvanha
(Gym Promo series 3, OBF#046)
[???] Sharpedo (speculation, OBF#047)
[???] Frigibax (Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Arctibax (speculation, PAL#059)
[???] Baxcalibur (speculation, PAL#060)

[???] Chinchou (Raging Surf)
[???] Lanturn (Raging Surf)
[???] Toxel (Gym Promo series 3, OBF#071)
[???] Toxtricity (speculation, OBF#072)
[???] Tadbulb (speculation, unknown origin)
[???] Bellibolt
(Gym Promo series 2)
[???] Wattrel (speculation, PAL#080)
[???] Kilowattrel (Shiny Treasure ex)

[???] Exeggcute (Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[???] Exeggutor (Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[???] Cleffa (Gym Promo series 3)
[???] Natu (Shiny Treasure ex, PAR#071)
[???] Xatu (Shiny Treasure ex, PAR#072)
[???] Chimecho (Future Flash)
[???] Latias (CoroCoro promo)
[???] Mime Jr. (Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Woobat (Ancient Roar)
[???] Swoobat (Ancient Roar)
[???] Cottonee (Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[???] Whimsicott (Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[???] Yamask (Gym Promo series 4, PAR#075)
[???] Cofagrigus
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(speculation, PAR#076)
[???] Dedenne
(Starter Deck Tera Mewtwo ex)
[???] Flittle (Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Tinkatink (speculation, PAL#101)
[???] Tinkatuff (speculation, PAL#104)
[???] Tinkaton (Gym Promo series 4)
[???] Gimmighoul (Shiny Treasure ex)

[???] Phanpy (Raging Surf)
[???] Donphan (Raging Surf)
[???] Larvitar (speculation, unknown origin)
[???] Pupitar (Gym Promo series 3, OBF#106)
[???] Barboach
(Gym Promo series 2, OBF#108)
[???] Whiscash (speculation, OBF#109)
[???] Clobbopus (Ancient Roar)
[???] Grapploct (Ancient Roar)
[???] Nacli (speculation, PAL#121)
[???] Naclstack (speculation, PAL#122)
[???] Garganacl
30px-Pok%C3%A9mon_ex.png
(Gym Promo series 4)
[???] Great Tusk
30px-Pok%C3%A9mon_ex.png
Ancient_paradox_icon.png
(Shiny Treasure ex)

[???] Charizard
30px-Pok%C3%A9mon_ex.png
(speculation, OBF#125)
[???] Gastly (Raging Surf)
[???] Haunter (Raging Surf)
[???] Gengar (Raging Surf)
[???] Tyranitar (speculation, PAL#135)
[???] Scraggy (Raging Surf)
[???] Scrafty (Raging Surf)
[???] Maschiff (speculation, PAL#141)
[???] Mabostiff
30px-Pok%C3%A9mon_ex.png
(Gym Promo series 2)
[???] Varoom (Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Revavroom (Gym Promo series 3)
[???] Iron Treads
30px-Pok%C3%A9mon_ex.png
Future_paradox_icon.png
(Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Gholdengo (Shiny Treasure ex)

[???] Cyclizar (Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Porygon (speculation, unknown origin)
[???] Porygon2 (Gym Promo series 4, PAR#143)
[???] Porygon-Z (speculation, PAR#144)
[???] Shroodle (CoroCoro Promo)
[???] Grafaiai
30px-Pok%C3%A9mon_ex.png
(CoroCoro Promo)
[???] Cyclizar
(CoroCoro Promo)
[???] Atticus (Gym Promo series 2)
[???] Clive (Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Moonlit Hill (Gym Promo series 3)
[???] Nemona
(ex Starter Set Fuecoco & Ampharos ex, SVI#180)
[???] Nemona's Backpack (Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Raifort (Gym Promo series 4)
[???] Students of Paldea
(Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Students of Paldea (Shiny Treasure ex)
[???] Technical Machine: Crisis Shot (Shiny Treasure ex)


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Pansear.jpg
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Horsea.jpg
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Cyclizar.png
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Raifort.jpg
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Just looked at this list again, and one thing is for sure is this: if this list does turn out to be 100% accurate, then I will know for definite who to turn to regarding set lists.
 
So no Mabosstiff. I think Garganacl is also out then, and then Venusaur and Blastoise are in
Surely Cofagrigus is cut as well then. Such a random inclusion.

But if you think Garganacl is out, then would mean the Gym Promo 4 cards are all out again. Bringing in Venusaur and Blastoise only adds 4 more cards - reprints of Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, Squirrel and Wartortle.

Not enough to replace the 6 non-ex Gym Promo cards, Maschiff and probably a couple more that were evolutions of Gym Promo 4 cards.
 
You know what? Since Arven and Team Star Grunt got reprinted for no reason in OBF, I think that there will be loads of trainer reprints.
 
You know what? Since Arven and Team Star Grunt got reprinted for no reason in OBF, I think that there will be loads of trainer reprints.
Removed everything from gym series 4.
Adding Venusaur and Blastoise line plus the never rotating itens (Crushing Hammer, Energy Retrieval, Energy Search, Energy Switch, Great Ball, Exp Share, Pal Pad, Poké Ball, Pokegear, Pokemon Catcher, Potion, Rare Candy and Switch) we can get to 90 cards. Still missing one.
 
Removed everything from gym series 4.
Adding Venusaur and Blastoise line plus the never rotating itens (Crushing Hammer, Energy Retrieval, Energy Search, Energy Switch, Great Ball, Exp Share, Pal Pad, Poké Ball, Pokegear, Pokemon Catcher, Potion, Rare Candy and Switch) we can get to 90 cards. Still missing one.
I still think you could add regular Forretress ex to the set, so we'll have 3/3 Tera Pokémon
 
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