Thunder Crown said:
you would actually need sableye to counter tool scrapper and get plasma badge back from the discard :|
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you would actually need sableye to counter tool scrapper and get plasma badge back from the discard :|
DNA said:
You can, but Sableye is the better choice since you can get 2 Items back (and they don't need to be Plasma), and it's not evolved from a 30 HP pokemon (even better, it isn't evolved at all).
I don't really think Raticate is very playable, even though the attack is very good, no one is going to set up a stage 1 and waste there attack to do it. I'd prefer to use Sableye + energy to use Junk Hunt in every other deck, except maybe Clefable.
The one in SF/TK has 40HP.
Keeper of Night said:
The one in SF/TK has 40HP.
DNA said:
I thought it was already implied that sableye was far superior, so to me it was nuff said.
maybe not, but we can try to make a good tier 1 deck out of it 
is it possible to make a emboar-heatran deck?
Pokemonlover903 said:
Uh... Yes. It's possible to make any deck. I'm not sure if it will be good, but it is definitely possible.
It doesn't seem like an amazing deck, but Heatran is a step up from Reshiram EX and Rayquaza EX.
chandelure/heatran will be all the rage, I'm calling it (I'm actually sorta serious, chandelure should be pretty good)
(I'm actually sorta serious, chandelure should be pretty good)I was about to say so. Chandelure/Reshiram (BW)/Heatran. Someone will try it but it won't be that good as you need to spam Chandelures.
well I like to think of chandelure as a slightly worse typhlosion (10 less hp, worse attack, and slightly worse ability) and I'm pretty sure that Typhlosion would thrive in this format since there seems to be more breathing room for stage 2's... Not to mention that chandelure gets the plasma engine so I could see the deck getting some play...
^Chandelure will be used anyway, just because it dominates Klinklang.
The problem about Chandelure and Typhlosion is that you need to have more than 1 set up at a time.
You usually need more than 1 bench sitter set up anyway, because then your opponet wont waste Catchers trying to get rid of them. (Unless your bench sitter is Celebi)
while that is true, you only need 1 chandelure/typhlo for the first couple turns, you don't need multiple copies out until the mid game when it's easier to accomplish anyways...
not to mention plasma ball and all the other new toys chandelure will have to play with from now to spring.
So:
4 Rare Candy
4 Skyla
4 Communication (really not ultra ball)
4-2-4 Chandelure
1 Computer Search
Really? That are 23 cards to get in the deck just to spam Chandelure. Almost half deck just to get Chandelure there. The problem is that Chandelure isn't spammable like Garchomp or Empoleon. The best card in the Cahndelure line to spam it is the Call for Family Litwick:
4 Rare Candy
4 Skyla
4 Communication (really not ultra ball)
4-2-4 Chandelure
1 Computer Search
Really? That are 23 cards to get in the deck just to spam Chandelure. Almost half deck just to get Chandelure there. The problem is that Chandelure isn't spammable like Garchomp or Empoleon. The best card in the Cahndelure line to spam it is the Call for Family Litwick: