RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 9 ends February 4th, at 23:59 GMT
TwistedTurtwig said:
Celever said:
Please note, Hagrid, that you are not clean by any means. Whether you have claimed Hagrid or not, he's not Dumbledore or any of the others, so he is a feasible wolf safe claim.
Says the guy who claims he's Mafalda Hopkirk. She was mentioned, what, maybe once in the entire series? You must have had to pick a pretty vague character to avoid being suspected, Death Eater. On the other hand, I'm Hagrid. Hagrid, the guy who's a major figure among the Hogwarts faculty and an important character in all seven of the books. Saying that Hagrid is a feasible wolf claim when you've got people like Mad-Eye Moody, Horace Slughorn, and Narcissa Malfoy in the game is absurd. Luis and SF would have had to be insane not to have included him among the town's players.
Why would I have picked a "pretty vague character"? If I were a Death Eater, I would have a safe claim, surely? Besides, when you design a game with mason groups, you design those first (or I do, anyway, alongside most other game hosts). Give me a bigger ministry worker in the franchise. Oh, you can't? Hell, Luis brought Barty Crouch Sr. back from the dead to use him as a role in the ministry; me being a minor character is hardly farfetch'd. Furthermore, Alastor Moody is iconic to the franchise (just as much as Hagrid) and Narcissa Malfoy would have been a role to cater for having the Malfoy Manor QT, which actually contributes to my theory of why I'm an obscure character. Horace Slughorn is an interesting pick, however you ARE forgetting about the fact that the town also needs to have some obscure characters in a flavour locked game, so that the town can't just massclaim and confirm all of their town players, and Slughorn fits the bill for that role pretty well (obscure enough to not be confo-town, but also important enough to not be a completely obscure choice).
The point of a wolf's safe claim is to be a
believable town role. Hagrid is just that. At the start of the game I thought that Dobby, for example, was on the town for sure, as he is one of the single most iconic characters in the entire franchise, and he isn't. Hagrid is on about the same levels as Dobby.
Hagrid said:
Celever said:
Your actions aren't overly towny (silence is a widely used scum role) and you are not confirmed town in any other way. Note that the only person who tried to confirm you as town was MtC: scum. As such, I also don't consider KoN clear (could have been a gambit by you to gain his trust, TT) because only an indie was revealed on the list. It was a huge gambit to make, but with huge pay off.
How is KoN not clear? The person in question on his list that wasn't aligned with the Order was a member of the indie faction, which KoN had no way of knowing. He would have had to been extremely lucky to make a guess that accurate with such a large list.
Not necessarily. TheGuy being indie was pretty obvious (even I could see it
) and AtA was already dead. bbninjas was confirmed, so that left Lenny, Vom and OAP, all of whom were pretty easy town reads to make. A gamble? Yeah, but it had a huge pay off, and they were easy reads to make. Not exactly luck, there, as I'd say he strategically chose some of the most likely townies for the list, and a clear indie.
Wolf said:
There's also this to consider, which I'd forgotten about until recently:
The Game Master said:
Vom's role confirms that Fred Weasley is still among the six living players for sure, and Wailord has claimed him. Fred Weasley is 100% a member of the Order, and no one has counter claimed him. Wailord is also clear.
This is very true. I stated in my post earlier that the only three non-confo townies are KoN, TT and myself.
Desperate Death Eater said:
That means that I know for a fact that you're the last scum. There's no other ways around it, Celever. Squirm all you want, but you're not going to get away from me.
##VOTE: Celever
Try to counter me with more faulty arguments, and I can and will silence you. There's only two more votes needed for us to win the game. Keeper, bbninjas, Wailord, Brave, I'd recommend you all follow my lead.
You don't know for a fact that I'm the last scum. In fact, I'd say you know for a fact that I'm
not, seeing as how you are currently the scummiest player. Don't think I forgot about your buss of PMJ, either!
If you silence me you will show that you do indeed have a spell found almost exclusive on wolf factions. In fact, looking at the theme of the spells found on the Death Eaters so far, I'd say it's actually fairly LIKELY for their spell to be a silence. They've had a second kill and a recruit, so if their spell isn't actually a silence this will be the first game I've played with two of those actions and not the third on one faction.
Furthermore, Hagrid has never used Silencio in his life, and it's not in-character for him to have it at all. My character has never used a spell in her life, but I was given Flagrate, a very clever spell for Mafalda to have because the whole point of her is writing. What connection does Hagrid have to Silencio, or silencing people as an act? Nothing!
When I was typing out that paragraph, I actually remembered something. The town already has a silencer! We haven't had one flip yet, but in the mason chat, Teal posted this ages ago:
"You were sneakely given a Mute Potion during breakfast, and is finally making effect. You can no longer post in the Game Thread or in any of the Quicktopics you're part of. The potion's effect will fade at the end of the day."
A Mute Potion? Hmm... who could that be? Well, everyone has claimed besides Fred Weasley. A Mute Potion? Yeah, that sounds like the sort of thing which one of the Weasley twins would use: it sounds like a prank, and a fun little item to use for a prank as well, which is what the Weasley twins are all about. The Mute Potion isn't actually real, looking at the wiki, but I would be willing to bet that Wailord will claim said action when he appears some time today. Why would Teal lie, and why would a Death Eater have something as fun sounding as a Mute Potion? It just doesn't make sense!
So follow TT and lose. Fun game, huh?
If TT silences me, please lynch him. I'm the only person attacking him, so silencing him is only in his best interests. With so few players now, we need everyone as active as possible.
TwistedTurtwig said:
Who wants to take bets on which Death Eater he is? I'm thinking Barty Crouch Jr.
P.S: This was dumb. bb's role makes it seem fairly likely that Barty Crouch Jr. is the last Death Eater, sure, but you CANNOT say it with such certainty. It just shows that you are in fact Barty Crouch Jr....
