Role names Alex, SF, KoN, and TT please. I find it incredibly annoying that all of the players that were being suspected somehow had a way out. The chances. Also KoN can be targeted by the rolecop for a result. As for Camoclone's prime lynch target:
Cinesra! Here have an ISO:
Cinesra said:
Machamp The Champion said:
I'm going to start some (more) discussion. Cinesra, do you think I'm scummy?
Not based on your one post so far.
Ok this is a pretty fair argument. However what bothers me is that this is all that he contributed.
Cinesra said:
I don't know if I believe Eron. This isn't his first game and these are the kinds of mistakes somebody who has no idea how the game works would make. I feel like it should be really obvious that if you have an ability then you should read it ASAP, or at least before posting. It should also be really obvious that you should use an ability that lets you see other people's roles and more importantly not tell people about it because that will make you a big target from the people who don't want their roles known.
Why would he lie about this? Maybe he's scum and is trying to get himself cleared? If so then maybe he or a partner can see who targeted him and wants to the priest to protect him, thus letting him know who to kill. Maybe he has a bomb role or whatever it's called and is trying to bait the wolves into attacking him?
Or maybe he just made some really bad mistakes.
"This isn't his first game". Yup my bad it was his 1'st and 1/4th game. What bothers me about this is how he only chimes in about the claimed rolecop and doesn't even try to scumhunt.
Cinesra said:
Camoclone said:
A wolf would not claim seer unless they were trying to bait the real seer.
That's a possibility, too, although I don't see why you claim that's the only possibility. If anything I feel what I listed earlier is more likely because they wouldn't require Eron sacrificing himself and I feel like half decent wolves would realize that a half decent real seer wouldn't fall for the bait.
And if they did they would not say that they didn't use the ability N0.
Sure they would. Claiming you haven't used the ability means you don't have to lie about somebody's role and thus get yourself caught.
I was playing games to see how active he was.
Actually I forgot Eron claimed role cop not seer because I wrote it wrong in my notes
. Anyways this proves that he clearly has the time to try and scumhunt and isn't simply an inactive.
Cinesra said:
They don't have to target an indie to get caught. They know who isn't a wolf, but they don't know other people's roles and that is where they would get caught. If asked what a person's role was, they would have to lie and would most likely be wrong and get caught by that person. Plus if they accidentally claim an indie is town and that indie is found out later, then the wolf would get lynched the next day.
See above.
Cinesra said:
Camoclone said:
This makes absolutely 25% sense. Most of it only applies on the off chance that their is a miller.
What does a miller have to do with this? A wolf would get caught if they claimed to have seer results. They wouldn't know people's roles, just whether or not they are a wolf, too. Thus they would get caught when questioned about somebody's role unless they happened to guess correctly, which is unlikely.
See twice above.
In summary Cinesra is scummy because:
- He is inactive.
- He is acting like last game.
- He hasn't even tried to scum hunt yet.
- He hasn't voted.
- Had time to argue with me proving that he could scumhunt if he wanted.
- He chose to try to place uncertainty on the claimed seer instead of scumhunting.
- It's the best lead I have at this moment after KoN.
