Finished Mafia 53: Twilight's Kingdom
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The question is, what could be the motivation to do that as scum?
That’s an odd reason to vote. What do you mean by that?
One of the wonders of mafia is that there is a counter to the nightkill in the form of the doctor. And my read obviously shouldn't be the only one scum bases their kill off of: if everybody participates you'll end up seeing different top townies of course. Readlists aren't great when I'm the only one putting them out, but when everybody does, the benefits in being able to construct a group of townies to be in a core together and create PoEs and start the town working as a unit instead of a paranoid clump is immense.
Unless the doctor is Mafia/inactive/blocked/not exist/has X-shot/opt to target themselves etc.
But that’s an off topic for post game I guess.
Between those who i left a comment, Mariano is the one that I can differentiate the least. So I don't mind if he is up for lynch
You mean- he is the one you have the least read on? It’s still odd to vote for that.
-> Yes, I keep weakening my posts because I fear that somebody might attack me if I sound too confident, because I am not confident.
-> Me keeping nullifying my posts is something I simply do. Yesterday I thought Mr. X was scummy, and today I am thinking why Mr. X would do such scummy thinking.
-> Where I come from, there are lots of inactive players, which is why I love progress more than actual alignment.
-> I had intended to not talk about this until someone asks me about it, so I will tell you now. I am certain that Celever is town due to a Passive Ability of mine.
-> Lots of people in this game I have never met. Which is why you all seem as if you are scum playing as town or pure town to me.
-> I said that I don't want to rolehunt and I meant what I said.
-> Me keeping nullifying my posts is something I simply do. Yesterday I thought Mr. X was scummy, and today I am thinking why Mr. X would do such scummy thinking.
-> Where I come from, there are lots of inactive players, which is why I love progress more than actual alignment.
-> I had intended to not talk about this until someone asks me about it, so I will tell you now. I am certain that Celever is town due to a Passive Ability of mine.
-> Lots of people in this game I have never met. Which is why you all seem as if you are scum playing as town or pure town to me.
-> I said that I don't want to rolehunt and I meant what I said.
...? Could you please fix this?
I am more used to plays where I never get attacked for my behaviors, but rather grudges from past games.
Fine then. No more ifs and I supposes.
If there are about 10 reads where everyone is portrayed differently, then everything should be fine.
What the ability entails or the whole flavor text?
Uh... okay?
Great. Now my indecisiveness has spread onto other players...
-> Jplap. I am using SM's argument, which is that he doesn't come here and explain anything, answer the questions asked by others or even try to talk. I don't care about the metareads.
-> Keeper. I hate to flip-flop my thoughts, but aside from Jplap, he is the one who's the most suspicions. This Day is not the best day to pressure him though, because his claim on Jplap's Farewell Ability was "unknown". I will wait another Day to see what he will say at D3.
-> Drac. I might be called petty for this, but my only reason to suspect him is because he is fine if Mariano, who's been attacking Keeper, gets lynched because he is "hard to differentiate". I don't really like that tone. It sounds like a reasoning that can be used against literally anyone.
Ig your scumreads aren't nearly as strong as I thought then. :x
Do you know something about the setup that we don't know? Because scattered does have a perfectly valid point that can't be disproved by the assertion that there's a doctor who will be able to (and what's more, will) block whoever you tell them to block by way of who's town in your readslist, when the rest of us have no idea if that's true or not. Even if there is a doctor who will be able to use their ability completely unhindered tonight, we saw with jplap yesterday that there's no guarantee of a player doing what everybody else tells them to (and jplap was told in far more certain terms than having to figure it out from who's at the top of a readslist).
The other two reads are fine, but why is Keeper "the one who's the most suspicious" aside from jplap? You didn't elaborate on that.
What even is this rolefish? I won't answer anything about the rolefishy part, but I do know is that when there's the threat of a doctor and their kill was presumably blocked last night, scum definitely will not kill the player who seems like the most likely kill target without at the very least having a ton of WIFOM behind it.
Zone brings up an interesting point about potentially Drac chainsaw defending Keeper. Definitely worth keeping in mind.
Pretty much everything I have said before and Mariano's response against my defense on Keeper: He sounds like a scum who didn't want to get lynched by giving the "I'm a bomb" argument which also serves as a reason as to why he won't die by NK.
I did say that he is very cooperative if he is town, but what I didn't say is that the results are not necessarily helpful for town. Plus he can lie about them or say that it is unknown like he did with jplap.
Whoops, I was gone for a whole day; I kinda got busy running a League Cup yesterday. Now, let's see.
Ok, I said I wasn't going to respond on Nick's behavior and I'm still not. However, if you're going to "scumread" me (because I sure as hell don't buy that "aura of agenda" stuff) then would you mind taking in consideration /all/ the spectrum and not just his posts? Because again, I'm not him and can't answer to his thoughts, but you have my posts as well to take into consideration. The way you say "This isn't Luis's posts, but Nick's." sounds pretty much like you're completely ignoring everything I've said D2 in favor of whatever Nick said yesterday.
I'm not liking this one bit. I beleive we've already said Keeper is far better alive than dead because of his contributions. I'm also interested in what Camo has against you, so I'll wait for it to develop before I vote.
Ok, I said I wasn't going to respond on Nick's behavior and I'm still not. However, if you're going to "scumread" me (because I sure as hell don't buy that "aura of agenda" stuff) then would you mind taking in consideration /all/ the spectrum and not just his posts? Because again, I'm not him and can't answer to his thoughts, but you have my posts as well to take into consideration. The way you say "This isn't Luis's posts, but Nick's." sounds pretty much like you're completely ignoring everything I've said D2 in favor of whatever Nick said yesterday.
I'm not liking this one bit. I beleive we've already said Keeper is far better alive than dead because of his contributions. I'm also interested in what Camo has against you, so I'll wait for it to develop before I vote.
He already posted his thoughts.
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