Quote this important terrible reasoning. It's extremely important.
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Quote this important terrible reasoning. It's extremely important.
Why? What does Mordacazir have to do with any of this?
You could have supported your reasoning better if you would have unvoted then.
Why remember this later? I think that I would know when I was unvoted.
Why?
You just unvoted him.
That is actual reasoning.
This is a contradiction. How does unvoting someone then saying that people should vote for that person without revoting for them makes no sense.
What things have gotten good? This argument? This argument is the opposite of good.
What here don't I understand? No, really, tell me.
I am not intent on defending his cases. I am intent on disproving yours because they all make no sense.
NO.
That is NOT what I was arguing about.
Actually, I could, still can, and did.
It does not make sense to me. Quote where I said that it made sense to me.
I was not defending his reasoning.
I felt the need to call you out because you were making the same amount of sense as Celever when you were attacking him.
That's what I'm doing right now.
I am explaining clear, in depth, right now.
If what I'm saying is useless, then what you're saying shouldn't even be there because it has even less place.
The quality of your reasoning speaks for itself! Good DAY sir!
...Just logged in to see that explosion and loved it. Whether what you're saying is helpful or not, I'll determine after reading what I missed.
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...Just logged in to see that explosion and loved it. Whether what you're saying is helpful or not, I'll determine after reading what I missed.
@Keeper of Night - Cypher's post is more or less picking apart contradictions and poor logic in Camo's posts.
And I can't argue that Camo's logic is easy to follow... Ever.
But I do have to agree that, at least before that post, Cypher was being extremely vague.
Regardless, it isn't enough to waver my vote one way or another.
@Cypher333 without buddying Camo hard (like always) I can follow his logic and his reasoning for unvoting Celever is simply cos the votes are piling on him and we don't want to actually lynch him accidentally. So whilst some believe he is the best lynch right now no one can be certain this early into a day period so lynching him isn't the best idea, hence Camo's unvote.
I personally still find TGK the scummiest and I'm hesitant on his role claim, but I'll hold my vote because so many others have bandwagoned on TGK really quickly.
New unethical strategy.
@thegrovylekid do you swear on the life of your mother that your role claim is honest?
I personally still find TGK the scummiest and I'm hesitant on his role claim, but I'll hold my vote because so many others have bandwagoned on TGK really quickly.
New unethical strategy.
@thegrovylekid do you swear on the life of your mother that your role claim is honest?
Teach us mortal beings, O mighty one.
I'm glad you realise this is unethical. My role is honest. I have hidden nothing.
Oh dear, this Cypher vs Camo thing is so ridiculous that I'll just leave it alone and let them worry about that. Instead, I'm going to make a decision whether tgk or Celever is the more optimal vote in my opinion using evidence against tgk.
I don't feel like roles will ever tell much, as it should be expected in a game where scum receives safe claims that said claims fit in with all the town roles. If I was going to base a lynch off a role, I consider the role's power level. I don't really want to lynch the doctor/blocker early on, so I'm more inclined to keep tgk around at least for a couple more days, and see what he does with his ability.
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On consideration of all of that, I still feel like Celever is the better vote. I really don't like Celever's argumenting throughout the earlier day and consider that a big scumtell. I've also noticed more recently that Celever is nitpicking small things that players say in hopes for a "slip", which is a sign of a frantic scum. On the flip side, I feel like much of what is used as evidence against tgk is actually fairly affiliation-neutral if not points only slightly to scum.
tl;dr Celever is scummier than tgk as evidence against tgk is fairly neutral in determining alignment, while evidence agaisnt Celever is much more scummier.
Definitely a very easy method of backpedaling for a scum. However, it is not uncommon for me to spend my nights thinking about the game, so I could easily imagine tgk doing such a thing. I don't feel like this evidence "condemns" tgk as either town or scum, although it certainly pushes tgk up to my watch list.
This... I don't even. This reasoning feels like it is scraping the barrel, but I'm not exactly sure what tgk is even scraping for. x____x
Hooray for OMGUS. I've noticed that tgk is often quick to vote for Camoclone if he's being annoying as either town or scum, so I'm not sure if this tells us anything. I also wouldn't consider OMGUS such a good scumtell on PB ayways, seeing how it is known as one of the biggest "scumtells" here and thus I would expect scum would go out of their way to avoid it.
/me sighs
Chansey
Alignment: Town
You are Chansey, a Treasure Town shopkeeper. Kind and with a musical lilt to your voice, you bring a warm, happy atmosphere to the town. Your business is to babysit Eggs until they hatch into Pokemon who join the team of your Explorer clients. With your caring nature, you won’t just limit yourself to sheltering baby Pokemon in this crisis.
Special Ability: Chansey Day Care
Usage: Night Phase; Every odd-numbered Night (Night 1, Night 3 etc.)
You may PM me the name of a player. You will place that player under your care so that they won’t be targeted or affected by any other Ability or Item effect for this Night Phase. However, while inside your house with you, they can’t affect or influence others in turn so that player also cannot and will fail to use their Special Ability or Items they might have. But their Passive Ability will still be in effect. You cannot choose the same player in successive Nights.
Passive Ability: Serene Grace
This ability of yours is all about increased luck to good things! If you land on the same Dungeon Tile as another player/s, the Tile’s chance rules will be altered depending on that player’s alignment (you will not be informed of that player’s alignment). If there is more than one player, it will be chosen at random.
If the other player is Town aligned:
1) If it’s an Item Tile, the chance that you will obtain the Item remains at 50%.
2) If it’s a Trap Tile, there will be a 25% chance that it will NOT affect any player.
If the other player is non-Town aligned:
1) If it’s an Item Tile, the chance that you will obtain the Item is increased to 75% and the other player drops to 25%.
2) If it’s a Trap Tile, the chance that you will be the one to be affected is decreased to 25% and the other player’s chance increases to 75%.
Win Condition: Eliminate all non-Town aligned players
I don't feel like roles will ever tell much, as it should be expected in a game where scum receives safe claims that said claims fit in with all the town roles. If I was going to base a lynch off a role, I consider the role's power level. I don't really want to lynch the doctor/blocker early on, so I'm more inclined to keep tgk around at least for a couple more days, and see what he does with his ability.
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On consideration of all of that, I still feel like Celever is the better vote. I really don't like Celever's argumenting throughout the earlier day and consider that a big scumtell. I've also noticed more recently that Celever is nitpicking small things that players say in hopes for a "slip", which is a sign of a frantic scum. On the flip side, I feel like much of what is used as evidence against tgk is actually fairly affiliation-neutral if not points only slightly to scum.
tl;dr Celever is scummier than tgk as evidence against tgk is fairly neutral in determining alignment, while evidence agaisnt Celever is much more scummier.
I agree.
Evidence agaisnt Celever much more scummier.
Teach us mortal beings, O mighty one.
I'm glad you realise this is unethical. My role is honest. I have hidden nothing.
You still didn't swear
if you had nothing to hide you would have just gone along with my strategy
Celever could flip either way. Any other day I would agree that we could find a better candidate. But this is Day 1, and this is the lead we have.
Getting TGK to swear his role is, uh, dumb and unnecessary? WW is a game built on lying, you can't trust what anybody says anyway.
I will believe his claim for the moment, it may be provable later on, and I really don't find him any scummier than Celv.
Getting TGK to swear his role is, uh, dumb and unnecessary? WW is a game built on lying, you can't trust what anybody says anyway.
I will believe his claim for the moment, it may be provable later on, and I really don't find him any scummier than Celv.
Yeah but how bad would you feel if you swore on your mums life and you were lying
Anyway! Moving on! It's my friends bucks party and I'm being the antisocial one on my phone
Anyway! Moving on! It's my friends bucks party and I'm being the antisocial one on my phone
Lives matter more than a game, SS.You still didn't swear
Lives matter more than a game, SS.
Wait, so you're lying when you said before when you said "You're role is honest; I have hidden nothing?"
No, that was a direct response to this:
My role is honest, but I value a person's life [especially my mom's] too much to swear on it.
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