Future Metagame Speculation Thread

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PellOfTheTundra said:
I actually asked on Gym about it and was told the ruling is exactly the same as Shedinja.
O.O
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That's what it most likely will be, yes.

King Arceus said:
Official answers cannot be given since the card isn't officially out yet.
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Mora said:
PellOfTheTundra said:
I actually asked on Gym about it and was told the ruling is exactly the same as Shedinja.
O.O
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That's what it most likely will be, yes.

King Arceus said:
Official answers cannot be given since the card isn't officially out yet.
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I have shamed my family.

:(

I am going to take a massive guess here and say that since there was a ruling about a similar power in the past stating that the pokemon would be an unevolved stage 2, the ruling isn't going to change, but I could be wrong and have been known to be from time to time.
 
RE: Future Metagame Speculation

PellOfTheTundra said:
I am going to take a massive guess here and say that since there was a ruling about a similar power in the past stating that the pokemon would be an unevolved stage 2, the ruling isn't going to change, but I could be wrong and have been known to be from time to time.
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SheNinja said:
So by the current translation, it will be unevolved?
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Most likely. But of course they could do something stupid. I haven't ruled that option out with them.
 
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Mora said:
PellOfTheTundra said:
I am going to take a massive guess here and say that since there was a ruling about a similar power in the past stating that the pokemon would be an unevolved stage 2, the ruling isn't going to change, but I could be wrong and have been known to be from time to time.
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SheNinja said:
So by the current translation, it will be unevolved?
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Most likely. But of course they could do something stupid. I haven't ruled that option out with them.
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They could do something dumb with the translation. Notice this is the same company that made Ghetsis (NOT FULL ART) a rare.
 
RE: Future Metagame Speculation

There used to be a ruling you couldn't use Hurricane if you didn't have a Benched Pokemon to move the energy to (which was stupid), so yeah, rulings can change and/or be stupid.
 
RE: Future Metagame Speculation

Back to Cradily, I think that it could be good... if it's not the main focus of the deck. It needs things like Mewtwo/Tornadus to hold the field until you get Cradily out. Maybe Scramble Switch into Cradily to attack. Get out some Stage 2's including Klinklang/Hydreigon (probably Hydreigon). Next turn move all of the energies off. It could be interesting, but I'm not counting on it being meta.
 
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Mora said:
Back to Cradily, I think that it could be good... if it's not the main focus of the deck. It needs things like Mewtwo/Tornadus to hold the field until you get Cradily out. Maybe Scramble Switch into Cradily to attack. Get out some Stage 2's including Klinklang/Hydreigon (probably Hydreigon). Next turn move all of the energies off. It could be interesting, but I'm not counting on it being meta.
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Maybe Tier 2.5? Seems either that or lower than "Tier Reshiboar." (6P. Hope this isn't advertisement...)
 
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SheNinja said:
Mora said:
Back to Cradily, I think that it could be good... if it's not the main focus of the deck. It needs things like Mewtwo/Tornadus to hold the field until you get Cradily out. Maybe Scramble Switch into Cradily to attack. Get out some Stage 2's including Klinklang/Hydreigon (probably Hydreigon). Next turn move all of the energies off. It could be interesting, but I'm not counting on it being meta.
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Maybe Tier 2.5? Seems either that or lower than "Tier Reshiboar." (6P. Hope this isn't advertisement...)
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That is my favorite tier. It is composed entirely of Reshiboar and Kyureboar ;)
 
RE: Future Metagame Speculation

I think we'll definitely see quite a bit of Big Basics, but with more of a focus on Bouffalant. Bouffalant's math works perfectly with Bangle, because with HypnoBank and Bangle you hit for 180. Also, Empoleon/Magnezone/Cradily is just scary. Empoleon/Magnezone works pretty well now, but with Cradily, that's really frightening.
 
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Puff-Sun said:
I think we'll definitely see quite a bit of Big Basics, but with more of a focus on Bouffalant. Bouffalant's math works perfectly with Bangle, because with HypnoBank and Bangle you hit for 180. Also, Empoleon/Magnezone/Cradily is just scary. Empoleon/Magnezone works pretty well now, but with Cradily, that's really frightening.
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no.
 
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PEW PEW and Basics IS the meta. Seriously, the only stage 2 decks are Blastoise and Klinklang, Klang is not that great, and I seriously think that Blastoise is WAY too overrated.
 
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Oh:D N00BS!!

Anyways, it does seem like the meta currently. That and Blastoise/Keldeo. Maybe some Garbodor if that is popular then.
 
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Slowbro said:
Puff-Sun said:
I think we'll definitely see quite a bit of Big Basics, but with more of a focus on Bouffalant. Bouffalant's math works perfectly with Bangle, because with HypnoBank and Bangle you hit for 180. Also, Empoleon/Magnezone/Cradily is just scary. Empoleon/Magnezone works pretty well now, but with Cradily, that's really frightening.
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Here's where we have to remember that there's a difference between working and being competititive. Reshiboar and Gartaria work, but they're not competititive. Empoleon/Magnezone is the same way.
 
RE: Future Metagame Speculation

People are going to aim for donking with this deck. Get 4 Deoxys EX out and thunder knuckle for 70. Sabeleye isn't safe anymore ...
 
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Alternatively you can substitute 1 Deoxys for an HTL or three of them for HTL and Virbank. Its certainly a possibility.
 
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