XY: Evolutions Set List Discussion

So this is my question: since the main theme of Evolutions is to do updated/remastered versions of Base cards, and Base Blastoise already was remastered as Deluge Blastoise...does that mean Deluge is gonna be cycled back in again with Evolutions?
 
Update:

  1. Venusaur-EX
  2. M Venusaur-EX
  3. Weedle
  4. Kakuna
  5. Beedrill
  6. Caterpie
  7. Metapod
  8. Tangela
  9. Charmander
  10. Charmeleon
  11. Charizard
  12. Charizard-EX
  13. M Charizard-EX
  14. Vulpix
  15. Ninetales
  16. Ninetales BREAK
  17. Growlithe
  18. Arcanine
  19. Ponyta
  20. Magmar
  21. Blastoise-EX
  22. M Blastoise-EX
  23. Poliwag
  24. Poliwhirl
  25. Poliwrath
  26. Slowbro Ex
  27. M Slowbro Ex
  28. Seel
  29. Dewgong
  30. Staryu
  31. Starmie
  32. Starmie BREAK
  33. Magikarp
  34. Gyarados
  35. Pikachu
  36. Raichu
  37. Magnemite
  38. Magneton
  39. Voltorb
  40. Electrode
  41. Electabuzz
  42. Zapdos
  43. Nidoran
  44. Nidorino
  45. Nidoking
  46. Nidoking BREAK
  47. Gastly
  48. Haunter
  49. Drowzee
  50. Jynx
  51. Mewtwo
  52. Mewtwo-EX
  53. Mew
  54. Sandshrew
  55. Diglett
  56. Dugtrio
  57. Machop
  58. Machoke
  59. Machamp
  60. Machamp BREAK
  61. Onix
  62. Hitmonchan
  63. Clefairy
  64. Pidgeot-EX
  65. M Pidgeot-EX
  66. Rattata
  67. Raticate
  68. Doduo
  69. Clefairy
  70. Chansey
  71. Porygon
  72. Dragonite-EX
  73. Blastoise Spirit Link
  74. Brock's Grit
  75. Charizard Spirit Link
  76. Devolution Spray
  77. Energy Retrieval
  78. Full Heal
  79. Maintenance
  80. Misty's Determination
  81. Pokedex
  82. Potion
  83. Pidgeot Spirit Link
  84. Professor Oak's Hint
  85. Revive
  86. Slowbro Spirit Link
  87. Super Potion
  88. Switch
  89. Double Colorless
  90. Grass
  91. Fire
  92. Water
  93. Lightning
  94. Psychic
  95. Fighting
  96. Darkness
  97. Metal
  98. Fairy
  99. Venusaur Ex
  100. M Venusaur Ex
  101. Charizard Ex
  102. M Charizard ex
  103. Blastoise Ex
  104. M Blastoise Ex
  105. Mewtwo Ex
  106. Pidgeot Ex
  107. M Pidgeot Ex
  108. Dragonite Ex
  109. Exeggutor (Bilangual)
  110. Charizard?
  111. Surfing Pikachu
  112. Imakuni's Dodu's
 
I'm both surprised and a little sad that they didn't bring back Base/Deluge Blastoise again, especially since he's available in the Kel vs Ray box that came out too.I guess the issue of Base Venusaur's Ability being given to Golduck BREAK may have played a factor.

Some of the Buffs and nerfs that the Base cards are rank from interesting(Raichu, Electrode, Machamp) to what?(NidoMale) Also Base Electabuzz and Surfing Pikachu being kept the same feel like missed chances too, the former because his fellow Basic Base king Hitmonchan got statbuffs while he was untouched, and the latter because SurferChu was a fun tech in water decks back then but would just be nothng but a gimmick now due to being the same stats.

Also I can't stop laughing at Imakuni's Doduo-and strangely this marks the 3rd Illegal card in TCG along with Ancient Mew and BDay Chu right?
 
What would the 110 Charizard be?

This one:

Pokemon-Japanese-Please-Trade-Campaign-CHARIZARD-Limited-Promo.jpg
 
Update:

  1. Venusaur-EX
  2. M Venusaur-EX
  3. Weedle
  4. Kakuna
  5. Beedrill
  6. Caterpie
  7. Metapod
  8. Tangela
  9. Charmander
  10. Charmeleon
  11. Charizard
  12. Charizard-EX
  13. M Charizard-EX
  14. Vulpix
  15. Ninetales
  16. Ninetales BREAK
  17. Growlithe
  18. Arcanine
  19. Ponyta
  20. Magmar
  21. Blastoise-EX
  22. M Blastoise-EX
  23. Poliwag
  24. Poliwhirl
  25. Poliwrath
  26. Slowbro Ex
  27. M Slowbro Ex
  28. Seel
  29. Dewgong
  30. Staryu
  31. Starmie
  32. Starmie BREAK
  33. Magikarp
  34. Gyarados
  35. Pikachu
  36. Raichu
  37. Magnemite
  38. Magneton
  39. Voltorb
  40. Electrode
  41. Electabuzz
  42. Zapdos
  43. Nidoran
  44. Nidorino
  45. Nidoking
  46. Nidoking BREAK
  47. Gastly
  48. Haunter
  49. Drowzee
  50. Jynx Koffing
  51. Mewtwo
  52. Mewtwo-EX
  53. Mew
  54. Sandshrew
  55. Diglett
  56. Dugtrio
  57. Machop
  58. Machoke
  59. Machamp
  60. Machamp BREAK
  61. Onix
  62. Hitmonchan
  63. Clefairy
  64. Pidgeot-EX
  65. M Pidgeot-EX
  66. Rattata
  67. Raticate
  68. Doduo
  69. Clefairy Farfetch'd
  70. Chansey
  71. Porygon
  72. Dragonite-EX
  73. Blastoise Spirit Link
  74. Brock's Grit
  75. Charizard Spirit Link
  76. Devolution Spray
  77. Energy Retrieval
  78. Full Heal
  79. Maintenance
  80. Misty's Determination
  81. Pokedex
  82. Potion
  83. Pidgeot Spirit Link
  84. Professor Oak's Hint
  85. Revive
  86. Slowbro Spirit Link
  87. Super Potion
  88. Switch
  89. Double Colorless
  90. Grass
  91. Fire
  92. Water
  93. Lightning
  94. Psychic
  95. Fighting
  96. Darkness
  97. Metal
  98. Fairy
  99. Venusaur Ex
  100. M Venusaur Ex
  101. Charizard Ex
  102. M Charizard ex
  103. Blastoise Ex
  104. M Blastoise Ex
  105. Mewtwo Ex
  106. Pidgeot Ex
  107. M Pidgeot Ex
  108. Dragonite Ex
  109. Exeggutor (Bilangual)
  110. Charizard?
  111. Surfing Pikachu
  112. Imakuni's Dodu's
Added Farfetch'd, Koffing
 
Clefairy is in the set! You can't cross it!


There isn't a COLORLESS Clefairy...


The slot before Surfing Pikachu's likely the reprint of the "ivy" Pikachu that Japan got at the same time as the alt. art Charizard IMO. I'd imagine the Charizard will likely be a promo at some point since it's a card that can easily sell a product.
 
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There isn't a COLORLESS Clefairy...


The slot before Surfing Pikachu's likely the reprint of the "ivy" Pikachu that Japan got at the same time as the alt. art Charizard IMO. I'd imagine the Charizard will likely be a promo at some point since it's a card that can easily sell a product.

Oh I see my mistake
 
October 22 was the day that I am going haywire. It was the start of prerelease of XY12. I have something discovered in this set.

  • Secret Rares like... eeww! Ooyama's Exeggutor are placed on the uncommon slots, but they're still Secret Rares. Actually, they are 5 of them.
  1. Ooyama's Exeggutor
  2. Imakuni's Doduo
  3. Here Come's Team Rocket
  4. Flying Pikachu
  5. Surfing Pikachu
  • No FAs for Venusaur, Charizard, and Blastoise, according to my source.
  • Mewtwo was a Regular Rare due to theme decks.
  • Other from Mewtwo, the rares are:
  1. Raticate
  2. Electrode
  3. Arcanine
  4. Dewgong
  5. Farfetch'd
  6. Beedrill
  7. Starmie
  8. Mewtwo
  9. Dugtrio (not the 80s one.)
  • The pulls are highly favorable to holos, as what I have saw on YouTube.
Are you agree on what I have discovered to that set? Feel free to tell.
 
With prerelease being in many places in the US, I've been waiting to see the set list. Does anyone know if:

a) We will get new full arts for Venusaur, Blastoise, and Charizard?

b) the secret rares Japan got will be in the set?

c) Mewtwo will be holo or regular rare?
 
I think Mewtwo will be just a regular rare. I pulled two from my packs and one was a normal rare and the other one was a reverse. I personally saw full arts Venusar, Blastoise and Mega Charizard. I dont recall seeing the promo full arts though. The SR cards are in the same slot as the BREAKS.
 
With prerelease being in many places in the US, I've been waiting to see the set list. Does anyone know if:

a) We will get new full arts for Venusaur, Blastoise, and Charizard?

b) the secret rares Japan got will be in the set?

c) Mewtwo will be holo or regular rare?

A, I don't know. I saw it in my source. Thus, in Japan, Venusaur, Blastoise, and Charizard FA are the ones in the Red & Blue Promo Box w/ figures.
B, Yes. Those 5 Secret Rares are in the uncommon slot. Lucky you if you pull a secret rare and an ultra rare in the same pack. Those secret rares are seen above.
C, Mewtwo is a regular rare due to theme decks.

want evidence? Here it is according to my source. Starting from Fairy Energy (99/108):
  • (100/108) M-Venusaur EX
  • (101/108) M-Charizard EX
  • (102/108) M-Blastoise EX
  • (103/108) Mewtwo EX
  • (104/108) Pidgeot EX
  • (105/108) M-Pidgeot EX
  • (106/108) Dragonite EX
  • (107/108) Brock's Grit
  • (108/108) Misty's Determination
  • (109/108) Ooyama's Exeggutor
  • (110/108) Flying Pikachu
  • (111/108) Surfing Pikachu
  • (112/108) ....eeewww! Imakuni?'s Doduo
  • (113/108) Here Comes Team Rocket
source: So Many of them
 
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I honestly love this set and pulled 2 FA Dragonites in prelease yesterday and I don't know what to do with em.
 
  1. Venusaur-EX
  2. M Venusaur-EX
  3. Weedle - C
  4. Kakuna - U
  5. Beedrill - R
  6. Caterpie - C
  7. Metapod - U
  8. Tangela - C
  9. Charmander
  10. Charmeleon
  11. Charizard - H
  12. Charizard-EX
  13. M Charizard-EX
  14. Vulpix - C
  15. Ninetales - H (R in prerelease Evolution Pack)
  16. Ninetales BREAK
  17. Growlithe - C
  18. Arcanine - R
  19. Ponyta - C
  20. Magmar - U
  21. Blastoise-EX
  22. M Blastoise-EX
  23. Poliwag - C
  24. Poliwhirl - U
  25. Poliwrath - H
  26. Slowbro Ex
  27. M Slowbro Ex
  28. Seel - C
  29. Dewgong - R
  30. Staryu - C
  31. Starmie - R
  32. Starmie BREAK
  33. Magikarp - C
  34. Gyarados - H
  35. Pikachu - C
  36. Raichu - H
  37. Magnemite
  38. Magneton - H
  39. Voltorb - C
  40. Electrode - R
  41. Electabuzz - C
  42. Zapdos - H
  43. Nidoran - C
  44. Nidorino - R
  45. Nidoking - H (R in prerelease Evolution Pack)
  46. Nidoking BREAK
  47. Gastly - C
  48. Haunter - U
  49. Drowzee - C
  50. Koffing - U
  51. Mewtwo - R
  52. Mewtwo-EX
  53. Mew - H (R in prerelease Evolution Pack)
  54. Sandshrew - C
  55. Diglett - C
  56. Dugtrio - R
  57. Machop - C
  58. Machoke - U
  59. Machamp - H
  60. Machamp BREAK
  61. Onix - C
  62. Hitmonchan - H (R in prerelease Evolution Pack)
  63. Clefairy - H
  64. Pidgeot-EX
  65. M Pidgeot-EX
  66. Rattata - C
  67. Raticate - R
  68. Farfetch'd - R
  69. Doduo - C
  70. Chansey - H
  71. Porygon - U
  72. Dragonite-EX
  73. Blastoise Spirit Link
  74. Brock's Grit
  75. Charizard Spirit Link
  76. Devolution Spray
  77. Energy Retrieval
  78. Full Heal
  79. Maintenance
  80. Misty's Determination
  81. Pidgeot Spirit Link
  82. Pokedex
  83. Potion
  84. Professor Oak's Hint
  85. Revive
  86. Slowbro Spirit Link
  87. Super Potion
  88. Switch
  89. Venusaur Spirit Link
  90. Double Colorless - U
  91. Grass
  92. Fire
  93. Water
  94. Lightning
  95. Psychic
  96. Fighting
  97. Darkness
  98. Metal
  99. Fairy
  100. M Venusaur Ex
  101. M Charizard Ex
  102. M Blastoise Ex
  103. Mewtwo Ex
  104. Pidgeot Ex
  105. M Pidgeot Ex
  106. Dragonite Ex
  107. Brock' Grit
  108. Misty's Determination
  109. Exeggutor (Bilangual) - SR
  110. Flying Pikachu - SR
  111. Surfing Pikachu - SR
  112. Imakuni's Doduo - SR
  113. Here Comes Team Rocket! - SR
All trainers are Uncommon
 
This is what I roughly remember from my Prerelease evolution pack

(Charizard Prerelease)
Charizard 1-1-1
Arcanine 1-1
Nintetales 2-2
Dugtrio 2-2
Hitmonchan 1

(Mewtwo Prerelease)
Mewtwo 1
Nidoking 2-2-2
Mew 1
 
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