New ‘Sun & Moon’ Set Stats, TCG Hints at No New Mega Evos and Lower Number of Alola Pokemon

Sun And Moon TcgWe now have some set stats for the first Sun & Moon set which has implications for November’s Sun and Moon video game releases!

The set will feature over 140 cards, making it the same size as XY.

There will be 11 Pokemon-GX, including Solgaleo-GX, Lunala-GX, and Lurantis-GX. Interestingly, Pokemon-EX have not been mentioned, nor have Mega Evolutions. Every set description for every set containing Pokemon-EX and Mega Evolutions has mentioned them in the past, even when Pokemon-EX were continuing from Gen 5 into Gen 6 with XY. So if they are in the set, it is odd TPCi is not mentioning them.

By comparison, XY featured six Pokemon-EX and two Mega Evolution Pokemon-EX. This means there’s three more Pokemon-GX in this set than there were Pokemon-EX in XY. To include Pokemon-EX, Mega Evolutions, and then 11 Pokemon-GX in this set would be very overwhelming! So based on these observations, it seems Pokemon-GX are replacing Pokemon-EX and that Mega Evolutions are gone (it’s also unlikely Mega Evolutions will be handled in the TCG in a different manner since no other new mechanics have been mentioned, unless they’re somehow incorporated into the Pokemon-GX mechanic). The trailers for Sun and Moon have been sketchy with if there will be new Mega Evolutions in the games, so the TCG may be further hinting there are not, especially since their dedicated mechanic is probably gone.

Sun & Moon will feature over 40 new Alola Pokemon, including some Alolan Pokemon like Alolan Meowth. This is the same number of new Pokemon as XY. The first XY set featured around 40 new Kalos Pokemon, Black & White featured over 70 new Unova Pokemon (when they were doing the whole “older Pokemon don’t exist” thing and had 156 new Pokemon to show off), and Diamond & Pearl featured almost 60 new Sinnoh Pokemon. This may be a large hint that Alola will have around the same number of new Pokemon as Kalos, since, generally, the TCG takes between three and five sets to introduce a new generation’s Pokemon. In other words, if the introductory number of new Pokemon is low, it could mean they don’t have as many new Pokemon to show off and don’t want to burn through them right away.

Sun & Moon will also see the release of two Elite Trainer Boxes featuring Solgaleo or Lunala. Like usual, each box will come with eight Sun & Moon booster packs, a pack of 65 card sleeves featuring Solgaleo or Lunala, 45 Energy cards, a player’s guide for Sun & Moon, six damage-counter dice, a coin-flip die, two acrylic markers, a collector’s box to hold everything, four dividers, and a PTCGO code card.

And one last bit of news! The set will hit store shelves on February 3rd, which is within a couple of days of when XY was released in 2014. This will be two months after Japan releases Collection Sun and Collection Moon on December 9th. At this point, it’s probably safe to say The Pokemon Company doesn’t want simultaneous set releases for whatever reason.

Update: Oh, I forgot about BREAK Pokemon. They seem to be gone too since they haven’t been mentioned in the set’s information.

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  1. crystal_pidgeot Bird Trainer *Vaporeon on PokeGym*
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    I guess only time will tell but it seems odd to just remove a feature from the game like that with not explanation at all. I hope they are continued as GX stages with no real importance placed on mega evolution similar to the different forms some Pokemon have.

    I guess looking back, baby Pokemon also went away and never came back.
     
  2. riChchestMat Aspiring Trainer
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    The big question for me, is what the Reinforced extension for S&M in Japan will contain. That comes out before S&M in the west. Ami Ami says "Randomly assorted from 51 types + ?? types" and that each 5 pack includes 1 energy card.
     
  3. Athena Envoy of Mediation
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    The Reinforced set more or less reads like a sort of Concept Pack. I wrote about it in the original article when the products were first announced here. It doesn't seem like these cards will be folded into the 1st English Sun/Moon set (based on card numbers alone if nothing else; there's not enough space to cram 50 more cards in), but they may be included in the 2nd set, or released in a special blister pack (eg., Double Crisis), or something else.
     
  4. Kangaflora Aspiring Trainer
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    This IS fascinating, and has definitely made gameplay more interesting. It seems that Pokémon GX are being treated exactly like the ORIGINAL Version of the Pokémon ex, but without double weakness. I'm loving Sun and Moon already.
     
  5. riChchestMat Aspiring Trainer
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    Agreed. So I guess you don't expect that to have any EX or Mega pokémon either?
     
  6. NightOfYuyuko Next station: Brick City!
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    The set stats also hints towards more Alola pokemon. which was gonna happen anyway as its such a defining mechanic for Sun & Moon but still awesome to have confirmation on it Now give us Alolan Gardevoir Game freak >:3
     
  7. xTITAN Training Aspirer
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    This card looks awesome! You can accelerate energy turn 1 with Forest of Giant Plants.
     
  8. RealSlim Dragons Breeder
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    No, the stat said that this set includes 40 Pokémon from Alola, not 40 Alolan Pokémon...
     
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  9. NightOfYuyuko Next station: Brick City!
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    Reread the article and you're right. DERP
     
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  10. MystikX Aspiring Trainer
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    Since TPCi seems adamant in keeping the Burn markers in the ETBs, maybe we'll see it return with this set?
     
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  11. silversalamence10 Top Hat Regulator
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    If it is true that we're no longer getting EXs/Megas, can we have a moment of silence for the Megas that never got to exist in the TCG;
    - Sableye
    - Sharpedo
    - Camerupt
    - Latias
    - Lopunny
    - Pinsir
    - Medicham
    - Banette
    - Abomasnow
     
  12. NightOfYuyuko Next station: Brick City!
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    I would have loved a Mega Banette EX (oh the FA potential .3.)
     
  13. MelancholyFairy Tricky Fox
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    Honestly, right now I'm not sure what to think of Pokemon GX. We haven't seen a BREAK Pokemon yet either so I'm assuming they're combining EX and BREAK and making a "new mechanic" out of it? Except because the GX revealed last night is a stage 1, I'm under the impression that they want to create a slower meta-game within the next upcoming years, and not make it as possible to pull off a turn 1 24o damage. Also as of right now, I'm a bit heart broken we haven't seen any full art or max rarity cards yet.
     
  14. kai88 THE Aspiring Trainer ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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    Please don't pull a "Kalos" and only actually make 60 something alolan pokemon total. Please pokemon. PLEASE.
     
  15. CrobatCommander Aspiring Trainer
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    It is not a Basic Pokemon, it evolves from Fomantis just like and regular stage 1 Pokemon would evolve, so it's not that good. (with Forest of Giant Plants it can be a threat though).
     
  16. silversalamence10 Top Hat Regulator
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    It would've looked cool in FA, and they could've put it in Steam Siege (alongside Pinsir).
     
  17. Nyora And she was lol
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    All I gotta say is M Venusaur-EX/Lurantis-GX/Solgaleo-GX
     
  18. Vitiel Mush. Up!
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    It'd be kind of cool if, as far as evolving GX Pokemon, we also had playable non-GX counterparts that complemented them well.
     
  19. Lord o da rings ♕ The Queen ♕
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    Still desperately hoping EXs and at least the Mega's that haven't had their time to shine will return. It'd be a shame if we never got a Mega Lopunny or a Mega Sableye.
     
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  20. Tails19950 Aspiring Trainer
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    So if Lurantis is 6/60 in the Japanese one, that means that Rowlet's final evo doesn't have two forms?
    1. Rowlet
    2. Dartrix
    3. Let's call him Robinroot ;)
    4. Fomantis
    5. Lurantis
    6. Lurantis GX

    Or would that just be for the one of either the sun or moon set? and the other final evolution form would be in the other one?

    I am hoping for two, that would be a great change to the series :)

    My collection will forever be incomplete :(