Thank you TGK, I want to vote for PMJ SO MUCH, however I think we should lynch tgk because as celever said before if we don't do it we lose a LOT of potential information.
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@thegrovylekid are you ok with us lynching you for the potential information it could give us?
No. I have revealed my Role PM and have nothing left to say.
@Empoleon_master - PMJ is the better lynch canditate today due to the fact that he is actually scummy.
I'm trying to work out why everyone is talking about Vote Counts... Drac won't stop about it, and SilverSilent has claimed an ability that can deduce a player's vote count. Now, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I have never really heard of any abilities that just find out someone's vote count... It seems like a pretty worthless ability, especially if Drac claims to have worked out 75% of the player's counts. In terms of lynch candidates, SS is still a lot higher than PMJ. There's gotta be more to that ability. (If anyone with more Role knowledge then I can share, does anyone know of any abilities that learn vote weight?)
pretty much what I've said above, whats with all the vote count and weight stuff...
Hmm, @thegrovylekid does the reason they are in your thoughts check out? As in flavour and role name (without telling us who they are would you mind sharing their character name)
Hmm I think there are more pressing cases then PMJ. I see how he would appear scummy, but I honestly think this is like when Camo is super scummy and when he's lynched he flips town, I think we should keep PMJ around at least a Day longer. (although PMJ some more scum hunting would be nice
) With your lack of contribution, I would almost consider you an inactive... This appears to be something of a bandwagon though Ill let it slide for now.
I really like this post, there are a lot of inactives and with everyone randomly revealing small bits of their role and sneakily name claiming, its becoming more and more likely that the inactives are scum since everyone active appears to have valid claims... Im gonna do a TGK and say my character can be easily sussed if you look hard enough
Lynching TGK is a waste. Theres no point lynching him for the sake of activating his ability. Its better we keep around for many Days, as opposed to just one day and get the joy of activating his ability.
Anyways these are my thoughts on what happened while i was sleeping, Ive got a case id like to run past everyone which ill post in a sec
@Squirtle Squad - they haven't replied, so I only know who their account is.
Now these aren't the only two posts from Drac about Vote Counts, nearly everyone one of his posts in this game have been analysing the Vote Counts and deducing everyones Vote Weight.
To me, this screams like scum trying to appear Townie. Its a safe way of contributing without fear of buddying anyone or appearing scummy, because Vote Counts are exactly what they are. Im pretty sure there was a game recently where this sort of thing happened and they flipped scum?
Pretty much I see this as sharing and contributing to the town in a way that seems townie, but in actual fact the information is really not that relevant.
If anyone else remembers this incident please let me know, but for now I'm going to
##unvote: TwistedTurtwig
##Vote: GM DracLord
We're still lynching someone who hasn't been contributing and appears scummy (to me at least)
Have they been an active player in this game?? Cos if they are then they could be scum too...
In Luis' game (the one game Ive been scum) I had a private QT with the other members of the Malfoy family, except I was scum the other two were Indie.
So my scum buddies told me not to say anything whatsoeever, and then we killed them off. But yeah that depends on if that player has been active in the game and is avoiding posting in your QT..
Stopped me from doing anything of course. That's why there was no Birch's note. I'm pretty much Thomas(?) Martin plus Pokemon.
@GM DracLord - What do you say about it? Why do you keep talking about vote counts?
Soo, squirtle squad is Wallace/pokemonLiberachi? That makes sense, now weather or not he has a pokemon that could use muddy water on Cpherand rhen asking him what muddy water did as a way to look town is another queston.
Let's do a bit of player analysis.
Active:
TGK
Celever
Squirtle Squad
PMJ
scattered mind
simsands
Cypher333
Empoleon_master (though not really contributing)
Inactive:
Reinforce
Yeowie
Keeper of night
GM DracLord
TwistedTurtwig
SilverSilent
Ice Espeon
(May as well be) dead:
Growlitheguy
Luispipe8 - Team Magma
In werewolf the mafia will always be split between the active players and the inactive players until one of those two categories is dead, since it's just how the games and I think maths works. If we focus on the active players this makes our hunt much easier, because:
Active:
TGK
Celever
Squirtle Squad
PMJ
scattered mind
simsands
Cypher333
Empoleon_master (though not really contributing)
As far as I'm concerned, TGK, Cypher and I are all confirmed town right now. I also have basically the strongest town read I've ever had with Squirtle Squad and I cannot imagine any situations where he is mafia. This leaves us with PMJ, scattered mind, simsands and EM. Obvously I think we should lynch PMJ, but this is still a good point to bring up. I have a town read on scattered mind right now, but I see the last post as trying to draw attention towards inactives which we don't have any proper info on right now. I can see it being a mistake a town could make, but it's also kind of scummy. I still have a very nullread on simsands, and EM I read as genuine though he's also... kind of not. Also null. The point I'm trying to make is that we basically have 4 viable lynch options right now to focus on, whereas if we start trying to talk about the inactives it'll be a huge mess of various opinions and people trying to convince others of weak and somewhat random cases. I think we need more focused discussion and this is one of those days where a hammer isn't scummy. Yesterday it was very scummy because it was completely needless and didn't benefit town at all. Today I don't feel there is any particularly worthwhile discussion to have, which is an extremely rare thing to happen.
@scattered mind I feel your logic is kind of flawed because later on in the game is when we have an abundance of information. Early game we need to play by the flip as opposed to the alliance -- playing by the flip is where given two somewhat good lynch options we lynch the option which will give us more and/or more solid info. PMJ's flip will help us far more leading into Day 3 than GM Drac's will, and on D3 we are almost sure to lynch PMJ anyway presuming no info roles out a surefire mafia.
Active:
TGK
Celever
Squirtle Squad
PMJ
scattered mind
simsands
Cypher333
Empoleon_master (though not really contributing)
Inactive:
Reinforce
Yeowie
Keeper of night
GM DracLord
TwistedTurtwig
SilverSilent
Ice Espeon
(May as well be) dead:
Growlitheguy
Luispipe8 - Team Magma
In werewolf the mafia will always be split between the active players and the inactive players until one of those two categories is dead, since it's just how the games and I think maths works. If we focus on the active players this makes our hunt much easier, because:
Active:
TGK
Celever
Squirtle Squad
PMJ
scattered mind
simsands
Cypher333
Empoleon_master (though not really contributing)
As far as I'm concerned, TGK, Cypher and I are all confirmed town right now. I also have basically the strongest town read I've ever had with Squirtle Squad and I cannot imagine any situations where he is mafia. This leaves us with PMJ, scattered mind, simsands and EM. Obvously I think we should lynch PMJ, but this is still a good point to bring up. I have a town read on scattered mind right now, but I see the last post as trying to draw attention towards inactives which we don't have any proper info on right now. I can see it being a mistake a town could make, but it's also kind of scummy. I still have a very nullread on simsands, and EM I read as genuine though he's also... kind of not. Also null. The point I'm trying to make is that we basically have 4 viable lynch options right now to focus on, whereas if we start trying to talk about the inactives it'll be a huge mess of various opinions and people trying to convince others of weak and somewhat random cases. I think we need more focused discussion and this is one of those days where a hammer isn't scummy. Yesterday it was very scummy because it was completely needless and didn't benefit town at all. Today I don't feel there is any particularly worthwhile discussion to have, which is an extremely rare thing to happen.
@scattered mind I feel your logic is kind of flawed because later on in the game is when we have an abundance of information. Early game we need to play by the flip as opposed to the alliance -- playing by the flip is where given two somewhat good lynch options we lynch the option which will give us more and/or more solid info. PMJ's flip will help us far more leading into Day 3 than GM Drac's will, and on D3 we are almost sure to lynch PMJ anyway presuming no info roles out a surefire mafia.
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I see how it is, I'm an inactive player
Anyways, my vote weighing ability would be sort of good if someone hasn't voted yet and we need to know if their vote only counts as one or more, other that though it's pretty useless and is only good for situational moves.
As far as targeting inactive players, it's sort of a flip right now. We're kind of balancing on a fine line right now with few people being active pursuers and tomorrow I feel will be even more skim than today and will require to force inactive players out in the open to hopefully get more information out in to the open and possibly a lynch for town.
I see how it is, I'm an inactive player
Anyways, my vote weighing ability would be sort of good if someone hasn't voted yet and we need to know if their vote only counts as one or more, other that though it's pretty useless and is only good for situational moves.
As far as targeting inactive players, it's sort of a flip right now. We're kind of balancing on a fine line right now with few people being active pursuers and tomorrow I feel will be even more skim than today and will require to force inactive players out in the open to hopefully get more information out in to the open and possibly a lynch for town.
Ok taking your list into account @Celever
I would say simsands is the most scummy there, but obviously I'm under the impression that PMJ is town, though he certainly has some scummy elements to his game so far.
The risk of voting simsands and finding him to be town is too high so i guess if i had to say, then I would say SM or EM would be next, though I don't particularly find either of them that scummy, and SM has claimed tracker so yeah.
Personally I'm sold on the GM Drac lynch, but yeah since he's not been contributing his lynch wouldn't give us as much info (though i find him extremely scummy)
Anyways, Im off registry shopping today (choosing our list of things we'd like for our wedding :O) Ill be off for the next few hours, ill try pop in but find it unlikely.
Oh SilverSilent is here we could always lynch him, though he's not on your list, I also find him particular scum-like
Laters guys
I would say simsands is the most scummy there, but obviously I'm under the impression that PMJ is town, though he certainly has some scummy elements to his game so far.
The risk of voting simsands and finding him to be town is too high so i guess if i had to say, then I would say SM or EM would be next, though I don't particularly find either of them that scummy, and SM has claimed tracker so yeah.
Personally I'm sold on the GM Drac lynch, but yeah since he's not been contributing his lynch wouldn't give us as much info (though i find him extremely scummy)
Anyways, Im off registry shopping today
(choosing our list of things we'd like for our wedding :O) Ill be off for the next few hours, ill try pop in but find it unlikely.Oh SilverSilent is here
we could always lynch him, though he's not on your list, I also find him particular scum-likeLaters guys
I am trying to contribute with conspiracy theories as there is potentially no one that can be fully trusted, hence the L avatar (WATCH DEATH NOTE ALREADY PEOPLE!), also I did try to contribute that we should post who has what ite so we can keep track of them in the event that there is a thief ability.
It's not that you're totally inactive, and actually of the players on that list of inactive players you've contributed the most out of all of them for sure, thought Reinforce has also brought up some really good points. You're just not posting as much as those in the active list, though maybe I could bump you up, who knows. I truly believe you're town anyway, so it doesn't make a huge difference :v.[QUOTE
I see how it is, I'm an inactive player
Anyways, my vote weighing ability would be sort of good if someone hasn't voted yet and we need to know if their vote only counts as one or more, other that though it's pretty useless and is only good for situational moves.
As far as targeting inactive players, it's sort of a flip right now. We're kind of balancing on a fine line right now with few people being active pursuers and tomorrow I feel will be even more skim than today and will require to force inactive players out in the open to hopefully get more information out in to the open and possibly a lynch for town.
I agree that come Day 3 inactive players will be forced to start posting if we lynch PMJ today. This is another reason why it's a good idea.
The problem is that GM DracLord plays like this every game, which makes him notoriously hard to read. It's why inspectors should target him in every game, because otherwise we're not going to garner enough support to lynch him until right in the early game when we often do for lack of better options. It's a good trend and I don't see a reason to change it this time by lynching him early! PMJ doesn't usually play like this, and while metareading is sometimes seen as kind of cheap it's also a reliable way of playing.Ok taking your list into account @Celever
I would say simsands is the most scummy there, but obviously I'm under the impression that PMJ is town, though he certainly has some scummy elements to his game so far.
The risk of voting simsands and finding him to be town is too high so i guess if i had to say, then I would say SM or EM would be next, though I don't particularly find either of them that scummy, and SM has claimed tracker so yeah.
Personally I'm sold on the GM Drac lynch, but yeah since he's not been contributing his lynch wouldn't give us as much info (though i find him extremely scummy)
Anyways, Im off registry shopping today
Oh SilverSilent is here
Laters guys
Have fun registry shopping btw, congrats on being engaged! <3
Yes, but you have yet to place a vote, and the mods would probably let you create a conspiracy theory thread. No problem, everyone is new at one point, and you're definitely putting in the effort!
Squirtle Squad for Sidney or Wallace confirmed.Im gonna do a TGK and say my character can be easily sussed if you look hard enough
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Professor Birch - Birch's notes
Ok taking your list into account @Celever
I would say simsands is the most scummy there, but obviously I'm under the impression that PMJ is town, though he certainly has some scummy elements to his game so far.
The risk of voting simsands and finding him to be town is too high so i guess if i had to say, then I would say SM or EM would be next, though I don't particularly find either of them that scummy, and SM has claimed tracker so yeah.
Personally I'm sold on the GM Drac lynch, but yeah since he's not been contributing his lynch wouldn't give us as much info (though i find him extremely scummy)
Anyways, Im off registry shopping today
Oh SilverSilent is here
Laters guys
Gee, you're too sweet
. Congrats to SS!The thing with simsands is that if you did lynch him, I'd kind of make it a last resort if all else falls through the cracks since if you do vote for him, you cannot revoke your vote at all which is the main factor here. I see him as a possible town, but I also feel like it could Magma or Aqua setting up a lynch against one another and trying to use town to gain momentum with it as well. The situation with simsands is a very fine line and could be easily messed up if not dealt with right.
PMJ is kind of on both sides too. While he could be town playing scummy to get more out of people. He could most definitely be scum too with the aggressiveness that was portrayed earlier. I'm not sold completely yet on this side but I can see why Celever is pushing for it which makes sense.
I kind of want to fall back on Ice Espeon if he was more active as we were pushing him D1 and could be a potential lynch as well.
As for now until we move closer to the day, I'm going to vote against @Ice Espeon simply to put pressure on and possibly gain some activity out of him.
##VOTE: Ice Espeon
Also, I know what you were getting at Celever, I just had to give you a hard time
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