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Standard Umbreon-GX/Zoroark for Nats

Discussion in 'PTCG Deck Garage' started by PineDog, Jun 4, 2017.

  1. PineDog Random TCG Trainer
    PineDog

    Member

    So yeah, after coming back from Madison regionals, I'm immediatly preparing for Nationals, I mean "International Championships." At Madison I'd say like 60% of the decks their were Garbodor/Drampa and Decidueye/Vileplume. So I want to run a deck that counters both of them, and the best deck for that seems to be Umbreon-GX/Zoroark, so I'm planning on running that. So I'd like to get some feedback and improve the list. I have about a month to playtest this deck.

    Pokemon (18)
    4x Eevee
    3x Umbreon-GX
    1x Flareon
    3x Zorua
    3x Zoroark
    2x Zoroark BREAK
    2x Tapu Lele-GX

    Trainers (32)
    4x Professor Sycamore
    4x N
    2x Lysandre
    1x Lillie
    1x Pokemon Fan Club
    1x Professor Kukui

    4x Ultra Ball
    4x VS Seeker
    1x Super Rod
    1x Special Charge
    1x Rescue Stretcher
    1x Field Blower
    3x Choice Band
    2x Float Stone

    2x Altar of the Moone

    Energy (10)
    6x Darkness Energy
    4x Double Colorless Energy
     


  2. acerizzo13 Reniart Gniripsa
    acerizzo13

    Member

    I made an audible gasp thinking about Zoroark Break into Garbodor, such a good pick and it's decent into Turbo Dark and Volcanion though those are for sure more even matchups and not a direct counter. Did you see any Lycanroc because that would be a very challenging matchup for this deck as you will be consistently 1 shot. My suggestion would be to playtest against the top 15 decks or so. Keep in mind Golisopod GX releasing in Burning Shadows is maybe a better matchup with Zoroark. If you do make it to day 2 make sure to put a Darkrai EX from Black and White in for that free retreat power. Do not let anyone convince you to take out the Flareon, while Umbreon may not easily be able to 1 shot Decideuye, Zoroark definitely can. Finally consider Bridgette over Fan Club and weigh the power of Lele with either, especially in the Garb matchup where every ultra ball hurts. Good Luck!!
     
  3. Alphahitman4 Quad Sylveon Master
    Alphahitman4

    Member

    I saw only one Lycanroc deck at Madison...also Nats is expanded format?
     
  4. acerizzo13 Reniart Gniripsa
    acerizzo13

    Member

    I believe day 2 of all events this year are expanded. I know regionals was, but you'll have to get that far first and then decide if you want to play the same type of deck anyway. Understandable if there is no Lycanroc showing up as it's literally so bad against decideuye.
     
  5. JacobTCG20 Aspiring Trainer
    JacobTCG20

    Member

    Is this deck just to keep rotating attackers with zorark and umbreon sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm trying to figure out
     
  6. TuxedoBlack Old School Player
    TuxedoBlack

    Member

    Nice deck.

    I too played at the Madison tournament this past weekend, and I also played a Dark deck (Darkrai-Zoroark-Yveltal). Although I didn't encounter any Lycanroc GX decks, all of the Yveltal Pokémon are still quite useful in my deck. So, consider incorporating at least an Yveltal and Yveltal EX.

    IMO, I believe Reverse Valley will be more useful than Altar of the Moone (most useful early game), especially after you attach a Float Stone to Zoroark.

    Given the relatively "low" HP of most of your Basic Pokémon, I'd suggest replacing the Lillie with an Ace Trainer since the Basic Pokémon could potenially be early game 1HKO targets.
     
  7. 21times Aspiring Trainer
    21times

    Member

    A deck very similar to this came in second at Birmingham. They did a deck profile on it on their day 2 stream shortly before the semi finals, I think about 7 hours into their day 2 stream.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149394681
     
  8. PineDog Random TCG Trainer
    PineDog

    Member

    No, I didn't see any Lycanroc-GX decks in the Seniors division, the deck played by precentage was like this:
    40% Drampa-GX/Garbodor Variants
    30% Decidueye-GX/Vileplume Variants
    10% Sylveon-GX (Myself included)
    5% Volcanion-EX
    5% Greninja BREAK
    10% Other (M Ray, Lurantis, Jolteon/Vaporeon, and the rare Waterbox were a few I saw.)

    Thanks for the advice, Burning Shadows won't be legal for play for Nationals, so I'm not worried about that. I'll switch Fan Club with Brigette.

    I keep Zoroark BREAK out as my main attacker for a majority of matches, with Umbreon-GX as a side attacker, switching in when Zoroark BREAK isn't hepful. I do switch back into Umbreon-GX occasionly to use Dark Call GX to limit my opponent's energy control. I still have mastered the deck yet, so I still don't quite have a definete answer for that.

    Ey, another person at Madison. I'll try using Reverse Valley and Ace Trainer, since Garbodor is such a common deck, it can limit the mobility I have, so consider Altar of the Moone a just in case card, as a major part of the deck is mobilty. But Reverse Valley could fit really nice in this deck.

    Cool, I'll check out their deck and work on mine.

    Thanks for all the advice guys, I'll keep steadily improving and working on the deck, to try and do as well as I can at Nats.
     

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