I wanted to make a thread a little broader then just the "XY7", "XY8" theory set, but rather something to continue for the entire XY set. I would like to hear people ideas on THEMES for the upcoming sets. We know after Emerald Break it's Bandit Rings, most likely being based on Hoopa.
I often get a feeling of Deja vu when new sets come out but generally it's because I like to find patterns in things. With the new set coming out we're starting to see a few things happen again Double megas of the same pokemon?) and using some of our previous sets I thought maybe we can discuss what might be good ideas for upcoming sets and what not!
Here's a short recap of our previous sets (based on Pokemon mostly):
X & Y Base:
New NRG:
Fairy
Megas:
Blastoise & Venusaur
Ex Support:
Venusaur (Grass)
Blastoise (Water)
Emolga (Electric)
Yveltal (Dark)
Skarmory (Steel)
Xerneas (Fairy)
Full Arts:
Venusaur (Grass)
Blastoise (Water)
Emolga (Electric)
Yveltal (Dark)
Skarmory (Steel)
Xerneas (Fairy)
Other new things?:
X & Y Base was our beginners set. It gave us a good taste of what was to come in future sets and brought us new Megas and Fairy type NRG. A good well rounded set that brought lots of neat new pokemon and interesting abilities to start with. The dual decks of this set featured Sylveon and Noivern, Fairy and dragon bring both the new type of this series and the new type of the last together.
Set focus was mainly introduction.
Set gave us our first type based stadiums of the set: Fairy and Dark
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Flashfire
New NRG:
None
Megas:
Charizard X (Dragon)
Charizard Y (Fire)
Kangaskhan (Colorless)
Ex Support:
Charizard (Fire)/Stoke
Charizard (Fire)/Wing Attack
Magnezone (Electric)
Toxicroak (Psychic)
Kangaskhan (Colorless)
Full Arts:
Charizard (Fire)/Stoke
Magnezone (Electric)
Toxicroak (Psychic)
Kangaskhan (Colorless)
Other new things?:
This entire set is fire and death, and fancy Lysandre. No one can argue that this set is focused solely on fire with blacksmith, fiery torch, and all of the Charizards and Pyroars running around.
Set focus was Fire
First set to include Secret Rare Gold Cards into the series (Charizard X & Y)
Sets name was flashfire and the star of the set was Charizard
No type based stadiums
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Furious Fists
New NRG:
Strong NRG (Fighting)
Heal NRG (Grass)
Megas:
Heracross (Grass)
Lucario (Fighting)
Ex Support:
Heracross (grass)
Lucario (fighting)
Seismitoad (water)
Hawlucha (fighting)
Dragonite (Dragon)
Full Arts:
Heracross (grass)
Lucario (fighting)
Seismitoad (Water)
Dragonite (dragon)
Other new things?:
This set was percieved to not be very interesting until people figured out Lucario hit for one NRG, Seismitoad is glorious, and the non ex Hawlucha is a pretty cool guy. The set really brought the beat down with past cards like Ladorus, and provided great fighting support. Strangely enough this sets other focus was grass types with M Heracross and grass NRG, which might've been also and allusion to the next set being psychic/electric by throwing in Dragonite (Grass/ Electric NRG use, Dragon Type). This set also gave us back our lovely fossil support.
Set focus was Fighting/Grass
Set included 2 SR Gold cards, both were also megas (Heracross & Lucario)
Sets name was furious fists, sets star was Lucario
First set to not give all EXes a full art (No Hawlucha FA)
Fighting Support Stadium
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Phantom Forces
New NRG:
Mystery NRG (Psychic)
Megas:
Manectric (electric)
Gengar (Psychic)
Ex Support:
Manectric (electric)
Gengar (Psychic)
Malmar (Dark)
Dialga (Steel)
Aegislash (steel)
Florges (Fairy)
Full Arts:
Manectric (electric)
Gengar (Psychic)
Malmar (Dark)
Dialga (Steel)
Florges (Fairy)
Other new things?:
This set was set up to tease and give us the ultimate hopes of a good Electric and psychic theme, but steel seems to "steal" the spotlight. The set gives us one psychic ex, one electric ex (both with very fun megas) but gives us steel shelter, Dialga and Aeigislash. The set brought some fun new things into the mix (night march anyone?) and possibly the strong steel support was an allusion to the next set.
Set focus was Psychic with Steel/Electric in the mix
Set included SR gold Mega Gengar and Mega Manectric, and a SR Full Art all Silver Dialga
Sets name was Phantom Forces, set Star was Gengar.
The packs teased Diancie but no Diancie EX or Mega would appear until later in a separate box.
Spirit Links were teased and Gengar SL released early at Gamestop. Manectric and Gengar Spirit Link released in set.
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Primal Clash
New NRG:
Wonder NRG
Shield NRG (Steel)
Megas/Primals:
Gardevoir (Fairy)
Aggron (Steel)
Kyogre (Water)
Groudon (Ground)
Ex Support:
Trevenant (grass)
Camerupt (fire)
Wailord (water)
Kyogre (water)
Groudon (ground)
Sharpedo (Dark)
Gardevoir (Fairy)
Aggron (Steel)
Full Arts:
Trevenant (grass)
Camerupt (fire)
Wailord (water)
Kyogre (water)
Groudon (ground)
Sharpedo (Dark)
Gardevoir (Fairy)
Aggron (Steel)
Other new things?:
Even though we are in the XY era, this is our Ruby and Sapphire introduction set. All EXes get full arts, there's all kinds of repeating support (Water, Fighting, Steel and Fairy receives more this section too) as well as another huge introduction: Primals and Ancient Traits. While Primals are just like EXes the main difference is they also come with Ancient Traits in which no EX yet does. It's a second active ability which has also been fun as they aren't exclusive to primals, but basic, and any stage except EXes can have them as well. The game has evolved vastly in this addition.
Set focus was introduction of Alpha and Omega Ancient Traits.
Set included the revival of SR GOLD item cards and included four.
Set introduces Full Art Megas, all Megas/Primals have one
Sets name was Primal Clash and starred both Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Spirit Links are now the norm, every mega in the set as well as primal EX has one.
Elemental Stadium support this round is Water/Electric and Ground/fire
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Roaring Skies
New NRG:
Double Dragon NRG (Colorless)
Megas/Primals:
Rayquaza (Colorless)
Rayquaza (Dragon)
Latios (Dragon)
Gallade (Psychic)
Ex Support:
Rayquaza (Colorless)
Rayquaza (Dragon)
Latios (Dragon)
Gallade (Psychic)
Hydreigon (Dragon)
Shaymin (Colorless)
Thundurous (Electric)
Full Arts:
Rayquaza (Colorless)
Latios (Dragon)
Gallade (Psychic)
Hydreigon (Dragon)
Shaymin (Colorless)
Thundurous (Electric)
Other new things?:
So far what we can see is this is a dragon/colorless set. The Set is much like Flashfire with the dual Main Pokemon. There is no support stadium for this set that has to deal with a type, but rather amount of pokemon on your bench. This set makes a lot of sense being colorless as the focal point due to the star pokemon either being part flying as their dual type.
Set focus will be Colorless (Psychic will be the most playing energy requirement though)
Set includes 2 SR GOLD cards.
Spirit Links are now the norm, every mega in the set as well as the primal EX has one.
No elemental stadium support.
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With this knowledge we know that:
- 7 of the "11" NRG types are covered with new special NRG. (Grass, Fairy, Steel, Dragon, Psychic, & Fighting ((and reprint of Colorless))
- That leaves support for: Dark, Electric, Fire & Water NRG
- 7 or 8 of the "11" NRG types covered in Stadiums (Fighting, Psychic, Steel, Dark, Fairy, Fighting/Fire, Water/Electric)
-that leaves support for: Grass, Dragon and Colorless (Odds are we might get a Grass, but not the other two)
There are 14 Megas, 3 Primals
----The Megas cover these NRG Types: Water, Grass, Fire, Dragon, Colorless, Fairy, Psychic, Electric, Fighting and Steel.
---------The only NRG type not covered is Dark (M Absol will not count for this as it's in a promo boxed set not card set)
Of the 13 Megas only 9 have spirit links.
-So far we're at six sets and they all seem to be themed around a single pokemon, 1-2 NRG types and support stadiums or are an introduction to a new game set. If this continues we can say:
XY was an introduction set
-Flash Fire
------Had two Megas from one, and one colorless Mega
-Furious Fists
-------Supported two main types
-Phantom Forces
-------Supported two main types
Primal Clash was an introduction set
-Roaring Skies
------Had two Megas from one, and one is a colorless Mega
-Bandit Rings
-------This will possibly be a type support Set
-??? (XY9)
-------This will possibly be a type support Set
-??? (XY10) Possibly an intro set, if a new game is announced soon it might be definite if not it will be elemental support
-??? One of the next sets will feature Volcanion
MY PREDICTIONS:
---Bandit Rings could possibly be our set with a Darkness support NRG. Hoopa's second form is dark and this would be a good chance to make 2 Hoopa cards, one Dark, one Psychic.
---We probably won't see support water or Fire NRG until Volcanion is released.
---Like a lot of people I expect XY 10-11 to be based off whatever new pokemon games come out which will hopefully feature Zygarde. Like Rayquaza I can see two megas/Primals/wtf evers for it one featuring 1,000 Arrows or 1,000 waves.
-Bandit rings will most likely feature M Latias if there is still psychic support
SORRY for making such a long thread! If it's in the wrong place please let me know.
I often get a feeling of Deja vu when new sets come out but generally it's because I like to find patterns in things. With the new set coming out we're starting to see a few things happen again Double megas of the same pokemon?) and using some of our previous sets I thought maybe we can discuss what might be good ideas for upcoming sets and what not!
Here's a short recap of our previous sets (based on Pokemon mostly):
X & Y Base:
New NRG:
Fairy
Megas:
Blastoise & Venusaur
Ex Support:
Venusaur (Grass)
Blastoise (Water)
Emolga (Electric)
Yveltal (Dark)
Skarmory (Steel)
Xerneas (Fairy)
Full Arts:
Venusaur (Grass)
Blastoise (Water)
Emolga (Electric)
Yveltal (Dark)
Skarmory (Steel)
Xerneas (Fairy)
Other new things?:
X & Y Base was our beginners set. It gave us a good taste of what was to come in future sets and brought us new Megas and Fairy type NRG. A good well rounded set that brought lots of neat new pokemon and interesting abilities to start with. The dual decks of this set featured Sylveon and Noivern, Fairy and dragon bring both the new type of this series and the new type of the last together.
Set focus was mainly introduction.
Set gave us our first type based stadiums of the set: Fairy and Dark
----------------
Flashfire
New NRG:
None
Megas:
Charizard X (Dragon)
Charizard Y (Fire)
Kangaskhan (Colorless)
Ex Support:
Charizard (Fire)/Stoke
Charizard (Fire)/Wing Attack
Magnezone (Electric)
Toxicroak (Psychic)
Kangaskhan (Colorless)
Full Arts:
Charizard (Fire)/Stoke
Magnezone (Electric)
Toxicroak (Psychic)
Kangaskhan (Colorless)
Other new things?:
This entire set is fire and death, and fancy Lysandre. No one can argue that this set is focused solely on fire with blacksmith, fiery torch, and all of the Charizards and Pyroars running around.
Set focus was Fire
First set to include Secret Rare Gold Cards into the series (Charizard X & Y)
Sets name was flashfire and the star of the set was Charizard
No type based stadiums
------------------
Furious Fists
New NRG:
Strong NRG (Fighting)
Heal NRG (Grass)
Megas:
Heracross (Grass)
Lucario (Fighting)
Ex Support:
Heracross (grass)
Lucario (fighting)
Seismitoad (water)
Hawlucha (fighting)
Dragonite (Dragon)
Full Arts:
Heracross (grass)
Lucario (fighting)
Seismitoad (Water)
Dragonite (dragon)
Other new things?:
This set was percieved to not be very interesting until people figured out Lucario hit for one NRG, Seismitoad is glorious, and the non ex Hawlucha is a pretty cool guy. The set really brought the beat down with past cards like Ladorus, and provided great fighting support. Strangely enough this sets other focus was grass types with M Heracross and grass NRG, which might've been also and allusion to the next set being psychic/electric by throwing in Dragonite (Grass/ Electric NRG use, Dragon Type). This set also gave us back our lovely fossil support.
Set focus was Fighting/Grass
Set included 2 SR Gold cards, both were also megas (Heracross & Lucario)
Sets name was furious fists, sets star was Lucario
First set to not give all EXes a full art (No Hawlucha FA)
Fighting Support Stadium
-------------------------
Phantom Forces
New NRG:
Mystery NRG (Psychic)
Megas:
Manectric (electric)
Gengar (Psychic)
Ex Support:
Manectric (electric)
Gengar (Psychic)
Malmar (Dark)
Dialga (Steel)
Aegislash (steel)
Florges (Fairy)
Full Arts:
Manectric (electric)
Gengar (Psychic)
Malmar (Dark)
Dialga (Steel)
Florges (Fairy)
Other new things?:
This set was set up to tease and give us the ultimate hopes of a good Electric and psychic theme, but steel seems to "steal" the spotlight. The set gives us one psychic ex, one electric ex (both with very fun megas) but gives us steel shelter, Dialga and Aeigislash. The set brought some fun new things into the mix (night march anyone?) and possibly the strong steel support was an allusion to the next set.
Set focus was Psychic with Steel/Electric in the mix
Set included SR gold Mega Gengar and Mega Manectric, and a SR Full Art all Silver Dialga
Sets name was Phantom Forces, set Star was Gengar.
The packs teased Diancie but no Diancie EX or Mega would appear until later in a separate box.
Spirit Links were teased and Gengar SL released early at Gamestop. Manectric and Gengar Spirit Link released in set.
--------------------------
Primal Clash
New NRG:
Wonder NRG
Shield NRG (Steel)
Megas/Primals:
Gardevoir (Fairy)
Aggron (Steel)
Kyogre (Water)
Groudon (Ground)
Ex Support:
Trevenant (grass)
Camerupt (fire)
Wailord (water)
Kyogre (water)
Groudon (ground)
Sharpedo (Dark)
Gardevoir (Fairy)
Aggron (Steel)
Full Arts:
Trevenant (grass)
Camerupt (fire)
Wailord (water)
Kyogre (water)
Groudon (ground)
Sharpedo (Dark)
Gardevoir (Fairy)
Aggron (Steel)
Other new things?:
Even though we are in the XY era, this is our Ruby and Sapphire introduction set. All EXes get full arts, there's all kinds of repeating support (Water, Fighting, Steel and Fairy receives more this section too) as well as another huge introduction: Primals and Ancient Traits. While Primals are just like EXes the main difference is they also come with Ancient Traits in which no EX yet does. It's a second active ability which has also been fun as they aren't exclusive to primals, but basic, and any stage except EXes can have them as well. The game has evolved vastly in this addition.
Set focus was introduction of Alpha and Omega Ancient Traits.
Set included the revival of SR GOLD item cards and included four.
Set introduces Full Art Megas, all Megas/Primals have one
Sets name was Primal Clash and starred both Primal Kyogre and Groudon.
Spirit Links are now the norm, every mega in the set as well as primal EX has one.
Elemental Stadium support this round is Water/Electric and Ground/fire
--------------
Roaring Skies
New NRG:
Double Dragon NRG (Colorless)
Megas/Primals:
Rayquaza (Colorless)
Rayquaza (Dragon)
Latios (Dragon)
Gallade (Psychic)
Ex Support:
Rayquaza (Colorless)
Rayquaza (Dragon)
Latios (Dragon)
Gallade (Psychic)
Hydreigon (Dragon)
Shaymin (Colorless)
Thundurous (Electric)
Full Arts:
Rayquaza (Colorless)
Latios (Dragon)
Gallade (Psychic)
Hydreigon (Dragon)
Shaymin (Colorless)
Thundurous (Electric)
Other new things?:
So far what we can see is this is a dragon/colorless set. The Set is much like Flashfire with the dual Main Pokemon. There is no support stadium for this set that has to deal with a type, but rather amount of pokemon on your bench. This set makes a lot of sense being colorless as the focal point due to the star pokemon either being part flying as their dual type.
Set focus will be Colorless (Psychic will be the most playing energy requirement though)
Set includes 2 SR GOLD cards.
Spirit Links are now the norm, every mega in the set as well as the primal EX has one.
No elemental stadium support.
------------------------------------
With this knowledge we know that:
- 7 of the "11" NRG types are covered with new special NRG. (Grass, Fairy, Steel, Dragon, Psychic, & Fighting ((and reprint of Colorless))
- That leaves support for: Dark, Electric, Fire & Water NRG
- 7 or 8 of the "11" NRG types covered in Stadiums (Fighting, Psychic, Steel, Dark, Fairy, Fighting/Fire, Water/Electric)
-that leaves support for: Grass, Dragon and Colorless (Odds are we might get a Grass, but not the other two)
There are 14 Megas, 3 Primals
----The Megas cover these NRG Types: Water, Grass, Fire, Dragon, Colorless, Fairy, Psychic, Electric, Fighting and Steel.
---------The only NRG type not covered is Dark (M Absol will not count for this as it's in a promo boxed set not card set)
Of the 13 Megas only 9 have spirit links.
-So far we're at six sets and they all seem to be themed around a single pokemon, 1-2 NRG types and support stadiums or are an introduction to a new game set. If this continues we can say:
XY was an introduction set
-Flash Fire
------Had two Megas from one, and one colorless Mega
-Furious Fists
-------Supported two main types
-Phantom Forces
-------Supported two main types
Primal Clash was an introduction set
-Roaring Skies
------Had two Megas from one, and one is a colorless Mega
-Bandit Rings
-------This will possibly be a type support Set
-??? (XY9)
-------This will possibly be a type support Set
-??? (XY10) Possibly an intro set, if a new game is announced soon it might be definite if not it will be elemental support
-??? One of the next sets will feature Volcanion
MY PREDICTIONS:
---Bandit Rings could possibly be our set with a Darkness support NRG. Hoopa's second form is dark and this would be a good chance to make 2 Hoopa cards, one Dark, one Psychic.
---We probably won't see support water or Fire NRG until Volcanion is released.
---Like a lot of people I expect XY 10-11 to be based off whatever new pokemon games come out which will hopefully feature Zygarde. Like Rayquaza I can see two megas/Primals/wtf evers for it one featuring 1,000 Arrows or 1,000 waves.
-Bandit rings will most likely feature M Latias if there is still psychic support
SORRY for making such a long thread! If it's in the wrong place please let me know.
