Terrakion + friends (trying admirably to use only BW and on)

[KadyShack707]

Hey guys, a typical Terrakion + friends deck, but since I started only recently, I've only gotten BW and on sue to rotation in 3 months (I believe thats when the new packs are coming out)

2 Groudon EX
2 Landorus
4 Terrakion
1 Sableye DE
1 Zekrom ND

4 N
4 Juniper
4 Cheren
2 Random Receiver
2 Enhanced Hammer
1 Crushing Hammer
4 Catchers
3 Switch
4 Exp Share
2 Ultra Ball
2 Heavy Ball
1 Super Rod
2 Energy Retrieval
1 Ruins of Alph (the only old card and due to the tornadus' I have in the area I play in)

10 Fighting Energy
4 Prism Energy

Strategy: Getting exp's on benched pokemon, terrakions for revenge kill, landorus for accel + 10 everywhere + 80 damage. Groudon uses the 10 everywhere... once landorus hits twice and gets 20 everywhere.

The one little guy I like is Sableye, Junk Hunt gets back any items I use, so the balls are reusable, catchers, switches, anything to make sure I can take out the rest of the pokemon the opponents have. Also a nice tiny confusion thing for colorless.

Any suggestions?

 

[bluejay1]

This is all I would do
-2 enhanced hammer (not necessary)
+2 crushing hammer (much more necessary)

 

[KadyShack707]

Note to self, Trade for more crushing hammer's (only have 1 so far)

 

[Jirachi]

Maybe more draw power such as Bianca and cheren may help. I think maybe a mewtwo and zekrom may help to counter other mewtwos and to counter tornadus/tornadus EX.

 

[KadyShack707]

Thanks, I like the Zekrom idea and will take out a energy retrieval for it, unless anything else is suggested.

I usually feel a hand refresher is better than 3 - 5 cards (depending how little cards I have with Bianksters). I'll toy around with them in there, as they would reduce a bit of the discarding.

Any suggestions on what to take out?

 

[Jirachi]

Try
-1 sableye/terrakion (I think 1 sableye may just be enough and 3 terrakion worked fine for me in my testing)
-1-2 energy retrieval (isn't too necessary)
- some energy (16 is a lot IMO. In my deck I only used 14, and it has worked fine)
-1 super rod (1 should be enough)
-1 enhanced hammer (crushing hammer works pretty well too if you want to add that)

+1 mewtwo (explained)
+a couple draw support
+some DCE (could help with mewtwo and zekrom's outrage). Maybe around 2 would work nicely)
+1 ultra ball (good for discarding energy so landorus can use abundant harvest T1)

 

[KadyShack707]

Since I have no mewtwo ATM, I went like so
- 2 energy
-1 Sableye
-1 Enhanced Hammer
-1 super rod

+1 crushing hammer
+4 Cheren

Ill test with this and see how the normal draws go.

 

[Jirachi]

I think maybe 3 cheren may be enough. I'd use the other space for ultra ball since search cards are even more important now since dual ball and collector can't be used.

 

[KadyShack707]

Another note to self (1 more ultra ball for a cheren) Thank you. I have tested only a tiny bit, but just the 3 draw feels a better than dropping everything 100% of the time.