Official Backoff..

[FreeNature/Picori]

Greatings .. I would like to talk to your moderation team but since that takes forever I'll post here..

This member (Me) is a Member of the oekaki Assisiation of art.. One of your members has come to my site and tried to hit my members up for Refferals and Get bonus's from here.. A boy named SonicJ.

Now I know I can't make you watch your people.. But do NOT make people againced us.. This here is what he did.

:sonicJ:
Hey everyone this place STINKS Go to pokebeach forums.

And if him stating the site wasint bad enough he CONTINED!!


Next post:

MMM HMMM!

Next
Ahh hha


And he continued that till our Koroko and kevin banned him.. I will not stand for this and your members will not be aproved of if this continues... Pokebeach is a great pokemon card area but you guys even stole some of my drawings in the past year to make fake cards out of. You wish to coninue to act like your the best artists you guys can go on a 3X3 Competition with me and my fine crew.. Dont be telling your members we stink.

Simply put this message meens:

Koroko and kevin had to banned one of your members from our site cause of his advertising about this place and he's attacked artists in the past.

I know this place from the past cause you love stealing my art.

If I have to come here again.. It wont be good..


Now WPM... You know the pm I sent you..Lisen to it... Cause this is getting me freaking P.Oed..

Not only do you have it that when you made a forum you chickened out and stoped talking to your members, but you also alow them to wonder about like crazy and pose a thret to official pokemon oekakies. Then without a second thought you let them steal four of my drawings to make fake cards out of and now I have your members asking me to draw more =P. And then you go and let your members leave here and attack my Smeargle crew... This wont fly and you've already had three times for me to bide my time..

Next turn ... like a pokemon... My bide will sees and you'll see blood... F off..

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And on another subject I see The doc is here o.o.. As a member? Or moderator?

:shugs: This is confusing cause you where talking about a site of yours.. Did you actualy help WPM make this place?

In that case Giga.. I hate to have posted this againced your site but I dont like it when other people attack my places.. Like a Lion and his den I can't stand posers.. this is nothing againced you but I really don't like what I'm seeing... I know from how we are you'd be one who understand the situation.

 

[Daniel Jake]

FreeNature/Pucori. I'm sorry for what's happened, but telling us won't get you know where. SonicJ is probably just a bad member who sees nothing wrong with being banned from your website. Its sounds like he was a real pain anyway, its sad he would do that to you guys. And Pokebeach stole some of your art? I don't know if that's true, but if is they should give credit where credit is due at least if their going to do that.

Once again I hope our members dont do something childish again.

 

[FreeNature/Picori]

... Glad to see theres some nice people here and I apologise for having to take it so far. I've already spoken to the member whos full name is Sonicmoj and I hope we have come to a understanding on levels.. But I know WPM from the time my art was stolen when him and sevral members said I had no proof, then they just ignored me.. So it's hard not to be ferious at the time.. I'm clamer now.. But This post was something I've felt like doing since christmas of 05.


The post you made helps in showing the members did it Legitamently so I will hold my issue between WPM and Sonicmoj.. Again I give my dearest apoligies. I am normaly very kind and known as a great member to the communities, but I am also severly protective and sometimes annoying. I have reacted this way due to the stress of my protectivness and I'm sorry you had to see my pashents break.

It's great to meet you Daniel Jake. Your name is formiluar and I'm glad to meet you..

Edit: I just read your signature!! No wonder your Formiluar! I know you on balbgarden.. Lol I go by a totaly different name but I'm so happy your adventuring about =3!

 

[Daniel Jake]

Ya I understand FreeNature/Picori, I would be just as furious if what happened to you happened to me. And like you said, just take it up with WPM and Sonicmoj and hopefully everything clears up. And No need to apologize were all entitled to our opinions and feelings and the right to be protective . I know a lot of people remember me from everywhere I wonder who you are on Bulbagarden? And its great meeting you, if I haven't already

 

[Heavenly Spoon]

I know that there are a lot (maybe too many) nooby members on PB, advertising PB and or bashing other sites, but what I want to point out is that there's no way we PBers are encouraging this behavior, as far as I know, Sonicmoj is a newbie
all I can do is hoping the people who steal your drawings and Sonicmoj and others get punished or at least apologize, I might have nothing to do with this, but I'm sorry in their place

why WPM is not replying his PM is:
because he never does -_-, it's true, he's VERY busy
is there a subject, cause I think a good subject convinces him to read it :F

WPM's a good guy, and has a good site, there's no point blaming him in any way, you cannot possibly check every action of every single one of your members all the time and still have time to sleep, got to school or work on the site itself, I saw WPM, he's no super-human :F

as far as I'm concerned, art should not be used without permission, get someone to draw for you or learn to draw yourself :F
and advertising another site in a thread is just wrong, and is spam IMO, I hope PBnoobs won't bother you anymore, and I again apologize for their behavior.

 

[ShadowX]

I am sorry what happened or your site but to my knowledge there is not anyone on PB named sonicmoj maybe they used a different username on your site but anyway Do not insult WPM on HIS own site ok.

 

[Daniel Jake]

There is a member here called Sonicmoj. And FNP was just upset, you would be to with this kind of treatment. But like ShadowX said don't bash WPM, its not entirley his fault ^^

EDIT: sonicmoj post in capitalization and has a little grammer problem. He signed up 9/19 so he is a n00b and a reputational hurtful one ^^o

 

[Porygon]

WPM should seriously put a warning somewhere that he won't respond to half of your PMs. Heck, he dosen't respond to a little more than I'd like. Please don't generalize the mod staff becasue of that. Me, HolyStar, DocRobot and Abhorsen would have likely listened and responded quickly.

I'm sorry to hear that a member has done that on your forum. It is not in our intention to have people do stuff like that.
I'll talk to SonicJ and try to resolve this.

I'm also sorry to hear that members here used art from your community to make fakes. That's something realllly hard to enforce, stopping people from that. If you could by PM tell me where your site is that you don't want images taken from, I'll see what I can do. Putting up a rule that people aren't allowed to take art from that site comes to mind.

Anyway, just try to keep the anti-WPM stuff away from here. I'm willing to resolve this, but you might be on the verge of being banned - making this all MORE complicated.

Thanks.

 

[Light Venusaur]

There is a member with the user name of:
Sonicmoj!
This is what I got in 7 PM's (but I deleted 2 of them):
1st PM:

LIGHT VENASAUR I HEAR U MAKE TRAINER CARDS IVE SEEN 1, AND IM PRETTY IMPRESSED !... CAN YOU MAKE ME 1 PLZ I WANT MY NAME TO ME SONICMOJ I WANT TH BACKGROUND TO BE THAT POKEBALL SIGHN THING WITH THE 2 CURVY LINES AND THE CIRCLE IN THE MIDDLE I WANT THE SIDES BORDERS AND RIMS TO BE BLUE I WANT THESE POKEMON ON MY POKEMON TEAM (IN ORDER) JOLTEON (MY STARTER) (I STARTED WITH AN EVEE BUT ITS NOW EVOLVED SO PUT A JOLTEON) , RAQUAZA , LUCARIO , PICHU , MUDKIP AND CHARMELEON WELL THATS ABOUT IT PLZ DO THIS FOR ME PLZ THNX !!

2nd PM:

the first letter of trainer cards that includes charizard and doesn't talk about jim badges that's a mistake just ignore tht letter just look at the other 1 thats nearly the same but has changes and 2 more lines !
p.s. i luv my sig and ava !
p.p.s. (love) (signature) (avatar)[/qoute]

3rd PM:

PLZ DO IT FOR ME AND NO NO, YOU'VE GOT IT ALL WRONG... I ALLWAY'S WRITE WITH CAPS LOCK ON IT'S DA BEST ! I LUV IT ! AND U SHOULD TO ANYWAYZ, PLZ PLZ PLZ MAKE 1 AND DONT DELETE THE OTHER ITEM MESSAGES

P.S I WROTE SOZ FOR DOING THE WRONG POKEMON THAT I WNTD AND TOLD U THE REAL ONES THERE ANYWAYZ SOZ ANYWAYZ !

4th PM (this is where Abhorsen fixes things up....thanx again Abhorsen):

PLZ DO IT FOR ME AND NO NO, YOU'VE GOT IT ALL WRONG... I ALLWAY'S WRITE WITH CAPS LOCK ON IT'S DA BEST ! I LUV IT ! AND U SHOULD TO ANYWAYZ, PLZ PLZ PLZ MAKE 1 AND DONT DELETE THE OTHER ITEM MESSAGES

P.S I WROTE SOZ FOR DOING THE WRONG POKEMON THAT I WNTD AND TOLD U THE REAL ONES THERE ANYWAYZ SOZ ANYWAYZ !

Can you plz tell this noob off for yelling @ me!
S/he's don't 4 time's already & it's starting to get on my nerves.

Is that in a PM or in a thread?

5th PM: (from Abhorsen this time)

It's in a PM....so can you plz do something about it?

Ok, I sent him a PM to stop usings captial letters and to leave you alone. Tell me if he/she keeps on annoying you.

I'll like to give a BIG THANK YOU to Abhorsen for clearing things up!

 

[Abhorsen]

Lol, Sonicmoj thought he'd be tough and take me on after I sent him a PM telling him to back off from LV. I find these PM's absolutely hilarious because of the sheer stupidity and attitute this guy has. From this PM alone I think he deserves to be banned. Seriously, this guy needs a grammar check cause I spent like 5 minutes trying to understand what on earth he was saying.

CUT ME SOME SLCK HER I DIDN'[T KNOW THAT U CAN WDIT A PM OR THAT YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO ASK TO BE A MODERRATOE SOME DAY ILL BE MORE MODERATER WORTHY THAN ANY OF U PPL AND THEN ULL COME CRYING BACK SAYIN U'LL EVEN PAY ME TO BE A MOD COZ I'M DA BEST AND U SUCK! UR ALL HYPOCRITS! I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOT POKEMON AND U DONT EVEN KNOW WAT ITS ALL ABOUT! FUN! CAPS LOCK RULES SO DIO 10 YEAR OLDS WITH COOL VOCABULARY (ME!) SO JUST GO DOWN TO THE HOLE FROM WHERE U CAME AND MAYBEE, JUUST MAYBEE, I'LL TIPE U GUYZ IN DA COLLEST POKEDEX EVER SAYIN UR A BUNCH OF LOOSERS! U HVN'T SEEN DA LAST OF ME...

And another PM...

U DON'T GET RID OF NOOBS U R 1 AND I CAN SAY DAT COZ IM ART OF THE ANTI-NOOB SQUAD THREAD ! I CAN DO HTML AND IM ONLY 10 !!

I would ban him myself but i'm not an admin...

 

[Daniel Jake]

It seriously doesn't look like sonicmoj is cutting down on the all caps, its like reading Eric Stuarts shouting email And do we really need another member putting smiles at the end of their sentences? One is enough but two?

 

[CCloud]

Abhorsen, that is funny. Wow, I'm sorry for what happened, and you have all of Pokebeach's apologies.

 

[Porygon]

Situation with sonicmoj taken care of. He has a week to think about all this.

 

[FreeNature/Picori]

Great to finaly see this community is nice o.o.. I know a friend of WPM's from another site and he was a real dork so I figured friends are alot like their buddies. And it led me to guess that WPM was a real dork too. =/ Sorry if I hurt anyone. And most of the time when a Forum has a admin that doesint read posts. It's often a lazy admin and I added that to the situation plus the conflict of my artwork in the past and that just gave him a very bad rep on things.. If he's actualy a hard working admin I find it rare and Wish you the best, not many people actualy have someone who they can look to. But if what they say is true your just over capasity and I apoligize that your apearance/actions and friends gave you such a reputation. I wish you the best of luck with your site but I ferther hope these kind of situations can be resolved better from now on.

And ouch... Sonicmoj looks like someone who just found the internet yesterday so he'll need some guidence.. But at the same time the outrage caps is horible.. He may need a talking to but I will do what I can about that situation back at the forums.

And for those who asked my forums is (A oekaki I will pm you about,
A forum I will PM you about and The canvas sites.. Most of the canvas areas are privet and some members have already been banned to the situation of the art theft ^^;. We have a Theft punishment in place but sadly the young members don't seem to read rules and think their too cool for them ..


A drawing used for a fake pokemon card is this one below and the one under it and they where used in the christmas of 05... Considering I wasint that good of a artist at the time I don't know why people stole it but it still was used againced the rules and I mensioned it here so that it could finaly be deleted.. Thankfuly I look through the art spots and I don't see signs of the drawings so I am glad to see you guys did it withough the mention.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Pcoekaki/Totocolor.png:
The fna was so far away the people cut them out and cut a background out of another drawing I have.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b151/Pcoekaki/PlussleMinuntag.png

This was taken and my name "Fna" Was blured out. I would show more of my drawings stolen but I'm seriously embarrised by my past self. As for Howler's drawings and Hamtaro's I will have to ask them before veiwing it here o.o.

Many sites have members purposly meet up to bash other forums like Luelinks.com and Texteto. I figured Sonicmoj was a part of that situation due to the way he reacted and couldint help but come here and "bust it up" If it was in fact a raid on my new artists at MTcommunities.

I am very thankful for your apoligiese and relieved that you guys are actualy pretty nice. I may even stick around as a ally here and will try my best to help WPM and all mods out =3. I have extra time and it could be the least for my own pardons. I'm very sorry that the members coming from here in the past inflicted my veiw of you. And I promis to be alot more understanding of both our actions in the future.


And sonicmoj has a week to think about all this?

o.o Can I asked of what will happent to him? If it's a restricted information matter I won't mind letting it be. Heh I'm just cerious.

 

[Porygon]

If you want me to be blunt about it, I gave him a week's ban.

Thanks for coming to an understanding.

 

[Crazy Weavile]

Lol, Sonicmoj thought he'd be tough and take me on after I sent him a PM telling him to back off from LV. I find these PM's absolutely hilarious because of the sheer stupidity and attitute this guy has. From this PM alone I think he deserves to be banned. Seriously, this guy needs a grammar check cause I spent like 5 minutes trying to understand what on earth he was saying.

CUT ME SOME SLCK HER I DIDN'[T KNOW THAT U CAN WDIT A PM OR THAT YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO ASK TO BE A MODERRATOE SOME DAY ILL BE MORE MODERATER WORTHY THAN ANY OF U PPL AND THEN ULL COME CRYING BACK SAYIN U'LL EVEN PAY ME TO BE A MOD COZ I'M DA BEST AND U SUCK! UR ALL HYPOCRITS! I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOT POKEMON AND U DONT EVEN KNOW WAT ITS ALL ABOUT! FUN! CAPS LOCK RULES SO DIO 10 YEAR OLDS WITH COOL VOCABULARY (ME!) SO JUST GO DOWN TO THE HOLE FROM WHERE U CAME AND MAYBEE, JUUST MAYBEE, I'LL TIPE U GUYZ IN DA COLLEST POKEDEX EVER SAYIN UR A BUNCH OF LOOSERS! U HVN'T SEEN DA LAST OF ME...

And another PM...

U DON'T GET RID OF NOOBS U R 1 AND I CAN SAY DAT COZ IM ART OF THE ANTI-NOOB SQUAD THREAD ! I CAN DO HTML AND IM ONLY 10 !!

I would ban him myself but i'm not an admin...

Funny how I'm only one year older, yet have infinitely better grammar.

 

[Heavenly Spoon]

he's banned now, I know, but let's just laugh one last time, just cause I feel like laughing at him, this is what he PMed me after I said that it was stupid too post something nooby in the anti-noob forum (he posted an UGLY mix), I was going to forward this to someone, cause it was funny, but, well, I had to go,a nyways, here it is:

ORBUG IS A WY COOOL MIX AND CAPS LOCK RULEZ !!! SO GET LOST U BIG STINKIN NOOB! P.S IM STARTING CLUB XENTEN SOON SO WACH OUT IM GETTIN A GANG after u to call u a noob wid like a million pm's and e-mail's !

you do know what a noob is, don't you?
-_-, noob

YA !

 

[Daniel Jake]

Even though sonicmoj got banned he's back again! O.O here's his new screename "i'm sonicmoj banned for a week" you think he be more creative and pick something that won't grow attention

 

[FreeNature/Picori]

I hate to laugh but god!! This thread with his post has me almost peeing my pants. I know a girl named kiki and shes a amazing artist at the age of 10! But she can talk! Sometimes she even catches my typo's and with every one of them I give her a drawing for helping me. So you can be ten and you can know html but actualy DOING it is a different story... Heck I know HTML and I know what it meens. But OMG I can't make a site by myself O-o lol. I feel bad for you sonicmoj.

And if your reading I want to let you know that you have alot of learning to do. You can know HTML and you can know how to draw, you can know how to piss people off and you can caps and yell all you want, but without grammar and without friends that wont make you a drop. You don't get PAID for being a mod to begin with, and you should start thinking of what you should beg others to do for you. This world aint cut for another kid thinking he's better then everyone.. My brother Mark was alot like that.. Ohh he can make art and sell it for millions. He can make tattoo's and he can do a ton of great stuff.. But without the bone grinding work and actualy kiss your boss's Butt. That wont get you squat.. And he learned that.. Here he is at 30 or so years old. And I have a better job then him at 19 cause I actualy know when to do things and how to make the world move to my beat. He's envious that I get money for my drawings though to him they arnt that good. But I find people that actualy like what I do and work to make them like it more.

Knowing HTML is good. But it wont make you a dime if you can't go to school and actualy learn to spell it.

 

[Abhorsen]

Even though sonicmoj got banned he's back again! O.O here's his new screename "i'm sonicmoj banned for a week" you think he be more creative and pick something that won't grow attention

EXCELLENT!

That multi accounting to avoid a ban will most likely end up in a permanent ban.

Admins, his new account is here: http://pokebeach.com/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=2130