My First Competative Team

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To start off this I have been trying to break into the Competative Video Gaming for a while, and have slowly been getting better. I play TCG relativly well and kinda wanted to try out the video game. After losing to a person at my League too many times, I have decided that I need help. Please don't tell me I'm bad at this, I already know I need help. Well, here I go!


Mienshao @ Flying Gem
EV: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Nature: Adamant (+Attack, - Sp. Attack)
Ability: Regenerator
Moves:
Fake Out
Acrobatics
U-Turn
Hi Jump Kick

I like to start with Mienshao, and hopefully I can get a KO or two after using Fake Out for some free damage. Acrobatics w/ Flying Gem can hurt, hopefully killing something. I like the suprise aspect, because most people are probably expecting a Life Orb Mienshao. U-Turn activates Regenerator and Hi Jump Kick is for powerhouse STAB. I have EV for what I think is the most usefull additions for this Pokemons purpose. Adamant adds a little to Mienshao's Attack stat.

Seismitoad @ Ice Gem
EV: 252 HP, 252 Defence, 4 Sp. Attack
Nature: Modest (+ Sp. Attack, -Attack)
Ability: Swift Swim (both abilities are bad, I just figure this one is better than Poison Touch if I face a Rain team, as Poison Touch is useless)
Moves:
Muddy Water
Grass Knot (Trying to put something else here. Grass Knot is for kicks until I find a better move)
Hidden Power (Ice)
Earthquake

I got this idea from the brother of my friend, who was at VGC Nats. I played him, got swept and he said he was thinking about putting Seismitoad in his team. I wanted this guy to be a Special attacker, so I gave him Modest nature. His ability was the best choice out of the two, not that any of his abilities are useful. I don't know what to put in place for Grass Knot, so I put that there for a placeholder until I find something that fits better. Earthquake is powerful regardless of the negative Nature, and I like Muddy Water because of the chance of Accuracy loss.

Hydreigon @ ??? (don't know what to put here)
EV: 252 HP 252 Speed 4 Defence
Nature: Rash (+ Sp. Attack, - Sp. Defence)
Ability: Levitate
Moves:
Crunch
Flamethrower
Dragon Pulse
Protect

Hydreigon is powerful, even though most people say its suck-ish. Rash ups its most usefull stat, but with its high Attack, I though that it wasn't a good idea to lower it, as I may find some use. Levitate is Hydreigon's only Ability, so I don't have a say on that. I made Hydreigon bulky by adding 252 HP, and 252 Speed makes him somewhat viable to move before my opponent. 4 Defence EV I thought was the best place to put the space 4.

Serperior @ Leftovers
EV: 252 Speed 128 Attack 128 Sp. Attack
Nature: Mild (+ Sp. Attack, - Defence)
Ability: Overgrow
Moves:
Leaf Storm
Leaf Blade
Leech Seed
Substitute

Basic SubSeed, only until Dream World Serperior is released. I don't like being stuck with 2+ Leaf Storms and hitting for almost nothing, and Leaf Blade is somewhat strong, so I chose that so I can be somewhat offensive after I hit things hard with Leaf Storm. Leech Seed and Substitute is self-explanitory. 252 Speed EV makes Serperior a speed demon (I think). 128 Attack and 128 Sp. Attack EV goes with the mixed attacker thing. And it saved me time about considering what to do with the exra 4.

Jelicent @ Expert Belt
EV: 252 Defence 252 Sp. Attack 4 HP
Nature: Modest (+ Sp. Attack, - Attack)
Ability: Water Absorb (I love any immunities I can get)
Moves:
Scald
Will-O-Wisp
Recover
Ice Beam

Jellicent is my wall-thingy. 252 Defence makes it into a respectable wall, Physical and Special. I believe that Hyperbeem stated that in his Article about Walls and Sweepers, and I think it works wonders so far. 252 Sp. Attack makes it somewhat offensive so its not a dead weight. 4 HP makes it a little bulkier. Modest is the best nature for this offensive-wise. I like Water Absorb for easier switch-ins. Will-O-Wisp is for messing with Physical attackers. Recover is for instant recovery. Ice Beam is for coverage and goes with Expert Belt, which helps for Gliscor walls.

Haxorus @ ??? (don't know what to put here, either)
EV: 252 Attack 252 Speed 4 HP
Nature: Adamant (+Attack, - Sp. Attack)
Ability: Mold Breaker
Moves:
Dragon Dance
X-Scissor
Dragon Claw
Outrage

I am debating if I should keep this or Hydreigon. This guy is an amazing Physical Sweeper, while Hydreigon stays in longer. I don't know what choose, or if I should keep both. Attack and Speed EV help him sweep, and I like more HP, so 4 there looked great. Dragon Dance is for set up, but he doesn't seem to stay in there to use it. X-Scissor is for coverage, Dragon Claw for STAB. Outrage is a last resort thing, which I use if I know I'm about to die. Adamant is the right choice for his purpose, and I don't know if for this set I should choose Rivalry for possible higher damage if the genders are the same. Either way, I like this guy.




So please help a noob break into this VG. I like playing, but as you can probably tell I'm quite bad and just freelancing everything as I go.
And could somebody tell me how to insert images of Pokemon? I tried to insert them but I couldn't figure out how :/ Thanks for everything in advance!

EDIT: Just to clarify, this is a generic 6 on 6 OU. Feel free to suggest any Pokemon you feel would be helpful. I have mainly 5 Gen Pokemon at the moment, so thats why I only used 5th Gen.
 
Just to clarify, is this a VGC Team, or a normal 6 on 6 OU team? It's not really mentioned anywhere, and you do mention your friend from VGC nats.
 
Oops. Normal 6 on 6 OU. I just have only 5th Gen because I have yet to gain ground on all of the other Generations. So you can suggest other Generations if you truly feel it may help, but it may be a while before I get them. I'll edit that in.
 
Flying Gem and Acrobatics really shouldn't be used. Not only does it only work once per battle, but Acrobatics gives poor coverage. You're much better off running a Naive Nature and HP Ice to KO Gliscor, who would otherwise wall you.

Next is Seismitoad. This frog is the least viable of all the Water/Ground types out there due to his lacking stats and abilities. If you're really set on having a Water/Ground type you have much better options in Quagsire or Gastrodon. Quagsire gets the ability Unaware from the DW. This lets him ignore any stat boosts and can make himm an effective wall to boosting sweepers. Gastrodon also got a great ability from DW in Storm Drain. This lets him be immune to Water type moves, while also boosting his SPA when hit by one, allowing him to also wall some prominent threats like Washtom.

On Hydreigon you don't need Protect at all. Your set gets completely walled by Heatran so I'd recommend Focus Blast or Surf over Protect. You would also do better running Dark Pulse over Crunch and a Timid/Modest nature. You'll want Life Orb because it lets you hit harder.

Now we get to Serperior. I'd recommend just outright replacing him. His ability may seem nice on paper, but he only has two viable attacking moves: Leaf Storm and Hidden Power. Should you run Hidden Power Fire or Ice, you are so walled by Heatran that it's not even funny. If you run HP Ground or Fighting you get walled all day by Latias. Serperior really isn't cut out to be a sweeper, or a defensive Pokemon when you are completely outclassed by Tangrowth, Celebi, and Ferrothorn.

Here we have Jellicent. Your moves are fine, but your EVs and Nature aren't Jellicent is not and should not be an offensive Pokemon IMO. He functions much better defensively with max Defense and HP with a Bold nature. This lets him take hits like crazy, and will work even better if you run Ferrothorn over Serperior as these two resist each other's weaknesses.

Finally we get to Haxorus. First of all, having both him and Hydreigon on the same team is very redundant. You don't need these two Dragons on the same team. Should you want to keep Haxorus you'd be much better running one of two sets.
set #1 is:
Life Orb if you want Taunt, or Lum Berry if you don't
Jolly/Adamant
~Dragon Dance
~Dual Chop/Outrage
~Earthquake
~Brick Break/Taunt/Rock Slide/SD/the STAB move you didn't pick earlier
This way you can stop status from ending your sweep, and hit every Pokemon except for Skarmory neutrally due to Mold Breaker and the great coverage of Dragon and Ground. Taunt lets you shut down Skarmory and get more power from LO in addition to status and healing moves, but it doesn't allow much room for misprediction, while Lum Berry just lets you get in a free hit/boost without worrying. Brick Break hits Ferrothorn harder, SD is for more situational sweeping and is usually better against stall teams, Rock Slide gives you good coverage with EQ, but you already have great coverage in Dual Chop and/or Outrage with EQ. Plus he's no longer walled by any Steel type unlike your current set.

I hope I helped and didn't mess up while trying to help you.
 
Thanks for the feedback :D
I decided to get rid of Serperior and replace it with Ferrothorn. I like Ferrothorn's defences, and decided to give him max EVs in Defence and Sp. Defence, with the leftover 4 in HP. You like?
I also decided to cut Haxorus, but need something to replace him with. I was thinking Terrakion, but not sure. Suggestions?
I'm also at a loss for Seismitoad. I like the Ground/Water typing, but thats just nice. It doesn't matter all that much, as Grass Knot absolutly murders it. I need a suggestion for his replacement too. I was thinking of adding Vulcarona as a Special Sweeper, as Jellicent acts as a Water type. Is it a good idea to double types on teams that aren't weather-based?
 
I run two water types on quite a few of my teams and it works out fine. Ferrothorn + a dragon means you won't be bothered by grass moves-in fact, grass moves are relatively rarely used anyway. I'd suggest Quagsire over Seismitoad since Gastrodon counters rain teams which Jellicent and Ferrothorn already let you handle nicely, but Quagsire helps against Thundurus lacking Grass Knot and Excadrill. As for replacing Haxorus, the first five members of your team have pretty good synergy and the only thing types that you might have trouble with would be fighting and bug. Some pokemon that would help in the last sloot would be Chandelure, Skarmory, or some other flying type.
 
I decided to go Quagsire for the Seismitoad replacement. Now I need one more Pokemon to replace Haxorus to complete my team. It doesn't have to be a Sweeper. These are the guys I have now (if you want I'll go more in-depth):
Ferrothorn
Hydreigon
Quagsire
Mienshao
Jellicent
???

You suggest anything?
 
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