Let's start now! How does me not being killed by the mafia make me a likely indie? I don't see the correlation.
To me, the reason we should not massclaim immediately is the fact that nightkillers can try to kill the players that have roles that could hurt them. Since we saw no kill last night (nor any flavor that implies a kill was blocked), I suspect that the indie is unable to preform a kill and therefore we should get as much information as possible.I don't think it is best to massclaim, since we do not know whether or not the lack of kill this last night is permanent. I find it ironic that you've been the one very much opposed to claiming, yet now you're the one who's calling for a massclaim.
You may have been the target in one of the nights the kill failed. Indies generally have a form of kill prevention.
While I agree that the indie having a kill is unlikely because of the flavour, I did ask SS whether there was a kill this last night, and he just said "flavours flavour". So, not particularly helpful. That's why I'm cautious about massclaiming this Day.
Right, and since I don't have a form of kill prevention?
Defend myself against why I'm indie and not why I'm scummy? Imo, they might as well be one and the same since I've never been indie or been accused of being indie so that's really the only way I know how to defend.You could also defend yourself, but instead of defending yourself against why you are scummy (unless I'm reading something wrong, that's probably not going to change), you'd better off defending yourself with why you're town and not indie.
Well we wouldn't know if you did, but I do recall you saying that the rest of your role would be void if scum found out what it was. While that can refer to quite a few things, being bulletproof is something that comes to mind.
Sorry, I wrote that up terribly. What I mean is that unless you're pointing out flaws in the argument, you can't really defend against a lot of scumtells. If a scumtell legitimately applies to you, then you're going to be scummy. However, the trick to scumhunting - especially when using more general tells rather than meta tells - is looking at the whole picture - the scummy things and the townie things, and sorta weighing them up. That's why I'd say one of the best ways to defend is to give a few reasons why you're town to help the scumhunter weigh up anything that they may have missed. Just a tip for everyone.
Yeah, fair enough. The problem with both NP and SM right now is that they are making big assumptions. Which is a bit strange for SM in particular.
While I think that SF/Drac could easily be Indie, I'm not really for lynching someone purely because they will be able to immediately come back. But if there's no one better, sure.
I'm not so sure that Drac will gain access to the deadchat. Most of the time, hosts make it so that if you still have access to living players, you don't receive the dead chat.
Could we potentially get SS to confirm/deny this?
@Squirtle Squad; If GM Draclord had the role of Qui-Go Jinn that he claimed, and if there is nothing else in play that would affect his role, would GM Draclord still receive the deadchat QT (if any) on his death?