News Japan's SM3 Sets for the 20th Movie Feature Ho-Oh and Necrozma!

ZygardeGuy

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Agree! I expected tinges of cyan/blue/purple in the background to make Ho-Oh pop out more out front. Well, let's see how to holo glistens when the card gets released. As an online-only player, I've noticed they're making holo cards more "in your face" holo, so I'm hoping they do that with this card as well. :)
I was expecting this. Haven't you noticed that all of the FA GX's have had solid colour backgrounds?
 

CaptZero

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Although you can use stand in zoroark or something to change the active each turn and keep using the 120 damage right?

And you could use baby Golisopod as a one prize attacker. Imagine one energy, turn one, 150 damage. Holy shit that has potential.
 

Kontoleon

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Come on this card looks like brilliant on my eyes.

Is only Stage 1 GRASS pokemon, and with a single energy can easy hit the magic (from me) number 120! with 120 can OHKO the most NON gx/ex basic pokemon, he can OHKO Garbodor, Saymin EX with no really use many items.

If needed you can easy play Max posion, and the real advance of this Pokemon is the speed.

If you are lucky and you play second you can OHKO the opponent on first turn, with no really fast counter pokemon on him. However the 2nd turn if you miss the switch with DCE you can hit a cool 100, And on late game you may can K.O the opponent with "save" your pokemon with GX attack.

This pokemon have 2 main weakness, the fire pokemon, and the rethreat lock. Volcanion has 130 HP And with a good set up can hit the 210 HP. (3 set up) but is general good card from my eyes.
 

Purrloin

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Am I the only one disappointed about the Sun and Moon full arts in this set? I mean honestly I think the ultra rare versions look better than the full arts do. The ultra rares almost remind me of the full arts we had in BW/XY era stuff whereas these new full arts just seem...I don't know, kind of bad.
I agree. I find the regular arts so much more appealing artistically. The full-arts seem so bland and "unfinished" to me, like they forgot to do a background so they just MSPaint a solid color over it. Honestly I think they should just have the rainbow arts be the normal full-arts.
 

MoFoTY86

Aspiring Trainer
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Wow. I am surprised no one mentioned Solgaleo GX. Yes yes I know it is a Metal Stage 2, but you can always Skyla, Rare Candy and boom! Also worry about Hex, Garbotoxin to shut off that ability. Switch, Escape Rope, Olympia, Float Stone. I think people will use only the 1st attack and maaaaybe the GX. In case your new active isn't Knocked Out, then just retreat. It's just a thought about Solgaleo. Not a big expert player but still have ideas and thoughts.
 

TheBigE196

Aspiring Trainer
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Although you can use stand in zoroark or something to change the active each turn and keep using the 120 damage right?
Use SUM Wishiwashi with cowardice + float stone, free retreat golisopod into washi, bounce washi to hand and make gol active, play down washi on bench, hit for 120
 

Fayld

Rayquaza / Eelektross Master
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Use SUM Wishiwashi with cowardice + float stone, free retreat golisopod into washi, bounce washi to hand and make gol active, play down washi on bench, hit for 120

That looks like a real winner. You can rinse repeat that too.
 

SupremeLeaderQuagsire

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This card is great in my opinion. Swinging 120 for 1 is excellent, and there is Zoroark to help switch in. If you go second, Forest of Giant Plants into Golisopod-GX into a Zoroark play etc nets 120 on turn 1. Lycanroc-GX and Lapras-GX, just to name a few, are weak to Grass, so without anything extra you already get OHKOs on them. With a Choice Band that's 150, with two Lurantis (which isn't going to be hard to get out with Forest of Giant Plants) you hit 190. And remember, this is for one energy.

It's next attack is also good. Add on a DCE and you hit for 100 plus you take 20 less next turn. With Aether that's 50 less. You hit OHKOs on Lycanroc-GX and Lapras-GX w/o Muscle Dumbbells and Fighting Fury Belt respectively, plus you take less next turn, giving you an effective 230 HP.

The GX attack, also for a Grass and DCE, hits 150 and you switch to the bench. Switch into a Wobbufett or Tauros-GX or any other wall, and your opponent is unable to use Abilities or too scared to attack.

210 is a nice and high number. Muscle Dumbbells gives you 250, Aether Paradise Conservation area gives you an effective 280, and Armor Press gives you an effective 300! That is an insane amount of HP. You may prefer using Choice Band instead of Dumbbells and Forest over Aether Paradise, but its all preference.

Don't forget about the GRI Golisopod, either. You can run a 4-3-1 line, and it's a nice and handy 1 prize attacker that can also get up to an insane amount of HP. (200 is a large number for a Stage 1, 1 prize attacker!)

One last thing I would like to note is DCE. Tapu Koko and Zoroark are both 1 prize attackers with DCE attacks, so they fit nicely into the deck. Zoroark also has Stand In and Tapu Koko has a free retreat, making them useful tools. Tapu Koko can help hit the numbers you need and Zoroark can punish the opponent for playing down too many Pokémon to their bench.

I think people are giving this card a little bit too much slack, I like it a lot. I might play it depending on whether Burning Shadows brings a lot of Fire to the meta or not.
 

MystikX

Aspiring Trainer
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...I made a deck based around Scizor-EX and his second attack, using FFB to make him 210 HP and do 120 damage. I'm making a deck based around Golisopod-GX, and ain't no one stopping me.
 

GekkisaiDaiNi

The Sharp Alien
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Ah, but you see, you wouldn't only be hitting for 120. Choice band to 150. 2 Lurantis promo on the bench = 190. Kukui = 210. Those are some pretty huge numbers that aren't that hard to put together...for one energy and the necessity of switching. That switch necessity isn't all that hard to hit even without Zoroark. Honestly, if anything I am more irritated that the second attack and the GX attack are so underwhelming. That said, there is a deck here.

Oh, and outside the box thinking. This could be used similar to have Tapu Bulu is currently used in these Vikavolt + Koko deck. I don't think it works, but it is at least interesting
You're right. I was thinking about pairing it with Bulu for big damage dumps and the obvious promo Lurantis, Zoroark, and Choice Band, maybe with a couple baby Golisopods for GX decks.
I think I underestimated this card, I just saw 120 damage and thought, "well thats not enough" without thinking about Zoroark and Lurantis. With Forest it would be insanely fast, you could probably donk some people lol. Definitely going to be fiddling with a list.
 

Hemos

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This card does have a fair amount of potential to it, depending on what else Burning Shadows has to offer, and what cards are in the pool post-rotation. Float Stone would be a good way to do a one energy 120 damage per turn, as would Switch if you swap it for a Pokémon with a 0/1 energy retreat cost. If it wasn't for Devolution Spray preventing you from evolving the Pokémon again that turn, that'd make for a good strategy too.
 

Ecourts

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Man, I've been slacking on getting to these leaks...
A lot of good things have already been pointed out!

The Wishwashi was something that I really wanted to mention, glad to see someone else thought of it~
Also saw someone mention Max Potion, another thing I had considered!

So, I'll just mention a few things I haven't seen touched on...
The GX attack is a pretty nice amount of damage; 150 for two attachments~
and while switching to the bench doesn't help with First Impression, it can slow your opponent's momentum by preventing a 2HKO~

I think this card will have a pretty good amount of survivability!
Both Acerola and Olympia will allow you to "heal" your Golisopod.
Acerola is really good here, because you only need 1 attachment to set-up AND it allows you to switch in a new GolisopodGX!

Another thing to consider here, is Multi-Switch.
Using Multi-Switch after the GX attack can help keep your momentum, allowing you to set up an Armor Press in one turn~
This is also a positive interaction with Max Potion, as you can move your DCE to the active before healing!

The retreat cost is more of a "balance" mechanic, and less of an actual problem.
Lysandre will be rotating, and you're gonna run a lot of "switch" cards anyways~

Overall... I think this is a great card!
 

TheMaskedMeowth

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Yeah it seems like there's only one GX left in the sets to reveal. So there's Golisopod, Necrozma, Marshadow (presumably), and Gardevoir in SM3N, and so far Charizard, Ho-oh, and Noivern in SM3H. My bets are on the last one being Alolan Raichu.
 

MorningSTAR1337

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Yeah it seems like there's only one GX left in the sets to reveal. So there's Golisopod, Necrozma, Marshadow (presumably), and Gardevoir in SM3N, and so far Charizard, Ho-oh, and Noivern in SM3H. My bets are on the last one being Alolan Raichu.

The Evidence for Marshadow is indisputable for now:

  1. Marshadow has been officially revealed a few months back, at the same day as the movie trailer that well...revealed him.
  2. Marshadow also appears in the "Darkness that Consumes Light" pack art in Japan.
  3. By the time Burning Shadows is released, chances are that a Marshadow distribution or the movie in which he appears would had hit theaters at least in Japan.
  4. He is both Burning and a Shadow :p
  5. There has been precedent for Mythicals having cards released in the sets while they are being distributed. Arceus had an entire set in the DP/Pt era, Meloetta cards appear in Boundaries Crossed, Diancie cards in Phantom Forces (she is even feature in one of the pack arts), Hoopa was in Ancient Origins and Magearna and Volcaneon were both in Steam Siege. The latter two of which appeared as EXs
 

ZygardeGuy

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The only issue is that it misses key numbers. Also, it's a lot harder than you think to switch into a new Golisopod every turn.


My main concern is that, for standard at least, not only is getting out 3 stage ones pretty clunky, but Field Blower can discard the Float Stone on your Zoroark. Also, with one baby Lurantis and a Choice Band, you're only hitting for 170, so you'd need to get two Lurantis into play before you start hitting for OHKOs.

I think the best way to play this Golisopod is to play it on its own with heavy Float and Switch counts, along with Max Potions and Aether Paradises.
Aether Paradise only reduces damage dealt to basic [G] and [L] Pokemon.
 

George

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I feel like there might be a Flareon GX coming on, my reasoning behind this is; if the two other Sun and Moon sets both have Eevee evolution GXs, they might be consistent with it, but maybe not, but they also did the same thing when BREAKPoint started, they released Espeon EX, and then all the others followed in Fates through Generations. So I feel that there might just be a Flareon GX in Burning Shadows... (it would be the BEST birthday present ever!)

I feel like there might be a Flareon GX coming on, my reasoning behind this is; if the two other Sun and Moon sets both have Eevee evolution GXs, they might be consistent with it, but maybe not, but they also did the same thing when BREAKPoint started, they released Espeon EX, and then all the others followed in Fates through Generations. So I feel that there might just be a Flareon GX in Burning Shadows... (it would be the BEST birthday present ever!)
Reply if you guys agree!
 
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