'Forbidden Light,' Japan's SM6 Set!

I think Judge is a healthier form of hand disruption than N, N is just too good of a card throughout the game, perfect shuffle supporter on t1, perfect hand disruption in the lategame. It's too strong as a single card, Judge forces people to make decisions about whether they want hand disruption or higher counts of more powerful consistency supporters.
 
Noibat is cool but only in Expanded, and even that is a maybe imo - in Standard there is no point in playing the new colorless Noivern and it is even more pointless to waste a DCE on a 50 HP basic that will probably die on your next turn. Plus if you're going second your opponent might not even have any items left in their hand. So you'd have to lock your opponent's items with Noiver-GX first and then use Shining Celebi's ability to discard the items that you've locked. Which imo is a big no-no since despite the metal hype, Gardevoir is still popular and the new set will also boost it once again.

In Expanded you could play something like Garbotoxin/Noivern with Shrine of Memories and DDE. But then you'd have to give up using Silent Lab which puts you at an even bigger disadvantage against quad Sylveon. Noivern-GX/Altaria/Silent Lab/Shining Celebi would't work either for obvious reasons and imo Noivern needs Silent Lab or Garbotoxin.
 
I don't think you even need Noivern for Noibat in expanded. Just attack with little guy for a DCE and you made a big impact already. Especially againist a Zoroark-GX player with a giant hand.
 
Mr. Rhyperior said:
  • Judge - Now we complete the 15 trainer cards for Forbidden Light. And it is also saved by the rotation. Maybe in SM-on, people will run 1 copy of this.
  • Tyrantrum - good ability... on a Stage 2, plus the fact that the atk doesn't spam DCE, and the fact that it is evolved from a Fossil which is almost impossible to RC it. 2-3 Geodudes
  • Scatterbug - this evil butterfly took Chespin's spot in this set. Anyways, we see this "Ultra Evolution" on an Abra from Mysterious Treasures, but on a coin flip. The one with ability is good but they didn't realized that FOGP is banned in Expanded. Too bad. 2 Geodudes.
  • Noibat/Noivern - Good with Shining Celebi for destroying Item Cards on your opponent so that Garb will spam it. But being a 100 HP Pokemon lets it down. 3 Geodudes
  • Rockruff - why do we struggle for the 60 HP and getting jealous to the Ash Rockruff in Japan if we'll get this in Sm6, I'll be guessing DuskLyc will be in there. The one that has a downgraded Midnight's GX atk.
  • Amaura/Aurorus - Same problem with Tyrantrum. Good but its a Stage 2 and being evolved from a Fossil problem. 2-3 Geodudes
  • Pheromosa - It's basically Dusk Mane but it 10 dmg lower and unspammable with DCE. 3 Geodudes
  • Clawitzer - Too complicated to use given the fact that its HP is vulnerable to Standard OHKO range. 2-3 Geodudes
  • Klefki - Plain Meh. 1 Geodude
  • Furfrou - Ehhh. 1 Geodude
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The Unidentified Fossil trainer card. It's main and important effect is "play this card as it were a basic 60hp C Pokémon". That basically means RC is a legal action to evolve from Unidentified Fossil. The same can be said for Evosoda and/or Wally. It is considered a Basic pokemon while in play.
 
Mr. Rhyperior said:
  • Judge - Now we complete the 15 trainer cards for Forbidden Light. And it is also saved by the rotation. Maybe in SM-on, people will run 1 copy of this.
  • Tyrantrum - good ability... on a Stage 2, plus the fact that the atk doesn't spam DCE, and the fact that it is evolved from a Fossil which is almost impossible to RC it. 2-3 Geodudes
  • Scatterbug - this evil butterfly took Chespin's spot in this set. Anyways, we see this "Ultra Evolution" on an Abra from Mysterious Treasures, but on a coin flip. The one with ability is good but they didn't realized that FOGP is banned in Expanded. Too bad. 2 Geodudes.
  • Noibat/Noivern - Good with Shining Celebi for destroying Item Cards on your opponent so that Garb will spam it. But being a 100 HP Pokemon lets it down. 3 Geodudes
  • Rockruff - why do we struggle for the 60 HP and getting jealous to the Ash Rockruff in Japan if we'll get this in Sm6, I'll be guessing DuskLyc will be in there. The one that has a downgraded Midnight's GX atk.
  • Amaura/Aurorus - Same problem with Tyrantrum. Good but its a Stage 2 and being evolved from a Fossil problem. 2-3 Geodudes
  • Pheromosa - It's basically Dusk Mane but it 10 dmg lower and unspammable with DCE. 3 Geodudes
  • Clawitzer - Too complicated to use given the fact that its HP is vulnerable to Standard OHKO range. 2-3 Geodudes
  • Klefki - Plain Meh. 1 Geodude
  • Furfrou - Ehhh. 1 Geodude
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Its 15 new trainers.
 
Im looking out for a good tyrunt card to make tyrantrum playable. if its with shining celebi, if it has a 1 energy for 30 damage attack then tyrantrum could be hitting very good numbers (30+20 for strong energy, + 60 for ability would be 2 shotting most pokemon)
 
Sir Linoone said:
Picking out the best cards:

Guzzlord
Aurorous

Guzzlord/Aurorous is obviously going to be the best deck in format!


(Just kidding.)
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Of course that isn't going to be BDIF, since Voltorb EVO/Pheremose is going to be the best. it loses prize cards with maximum efficiency, letting you most optimally utilize Pheremosa's second attack.
 
Well if that's all the Trainers, then no Sycamore for a Kalos set. RIP my full arts. Judge is good. I better stock up on the old professor promos.
 
Interesting seeing at least three or four Pokémon representing their second types for the first time one Generation after their debut. Though quite a few Pokémon have done that in the past (Scizor as Bug (TCG Grass) type in Generation IV and Tentacool as Poison (TCG Psychic) type in Generation VI).
 
Based on what we've seen so far, I've made a temporary setlist for the English Forbidden Light for anyone interested! :D

1. Exeggcute
2. Alolan Exeggutor
3. Snover
4. Abomasnow
5. Scatterbug
6. Scatterbug
7. Spewpa
8. Vivillon
9. Skiddo
10. Gogoat
11. Pheromosa
12. Alolan Marowak
13. Heatran
14. Fennekin
15. Fennekin
16. Braixen
17. Delphox
18. Litleo
19. Pyroar
20. Froakie
21. Froakie
22. Frogadier
23. Greninja GX
24. Clauncher
25. Clawitzer
26. Amaura
27. Aurorus
28. Bergmite
29. Avalugg
30. Volcanion Prism Star
31. Dewpider
32. Araquanid
33. Magnemite
34. Magneton
35. Magnezone
36. Helioptile
37. Heliolisk
38. Rotom
39. Uxie
40. Mesprit
41. Azelf
42. Espurr
43. Meowstic
44. Honedge
45. Honedge
46. Doublade
47. Aegislash
48. Inkay
49. Malamar
50. Skrelp
51. Dragalge
52. Hoopa
53. Poipole
54. Naganadel GX
55. Cubone
56. Torterra
57. Infernape
58. Gible
59. Gabite
60. Garchomp
61. Riolu?
62. Croakgunk
63. Toxicroak
64. Pancham
65. Binacle
66. Barbaracle
67. Tyrunt
68. Tyrantrum
69. Hawlucha
70. Zygarde
71. Zygarde
72. Zygarde GX
73. Diancie Prism Star
74. Rockruff
75. Rockruff?
76. Lycanroc
77. Alolan Rattata?
78. Alolan Raticate GX?
79. Pangoro
80. Yveltal-GX
81. Guzzlord
82. Empoleon
83. Heatran?
84. Possible Kartana/Celesteela?
85. Flabebe
86. Floette
87. Florges
88. Sylveon
89. Dedenne
90. Klefki
91. Xerneas GX
92. Goomy
93. Goomy
94. Sliggoo
95. Goodra
96. Ultra Necrozma GX
97. Eevee
98. Arceus Prism Star
99. Bunnelby
100. Diggersby
101. Furfrou
102. Noibat
103. Noivern
104. Beast Ball?
105. Beast Ring
106. Bonnie
107. Diantha
108. Eneporter
109. Fossil Excavation Map
110. Judge
111. Lady
112. Lysandre Prism Star
113. Lysandre Labs
114. Mystery Treasure
115. Steel Frying Pan
116. Ultra Recon Squad
117. Ultra Space
118. Wake
119. Beast Energy Prism Star
120. Possible Unit Energy YFD?
121. Greninja GX
122. Naganadel GX
123. Lucario GX
124. Zygarde GX
125. Yveltal-GX
126. Xerneas GX
127. Ultra Necrozma GX
128. Bonnie
129. Diantha
130. Lady
131. Ultra Recon Squad
132. Wake
133. Greninja GX
134. Naganadel GX
135. Lucario GX
136. Zygarde GX
137. Yveltal-GX
138. Xerneas GX
139. Ultra Necrozma GX
140. Beast Ring
141. Energy Recycler
142. Steel Frying Pan
143. SR Trainer
144. SR Trainer
145. Possible Unit Energy YFD?

There should be 8 GX cards, 5 Prism Stars and 6 Ultra Beasts, as well as 15 Trainer cards and 2 Special Energies, and the amount of cards (not including secret rares) is just over 132 (set description mentions 130+ cards).
 
steffenka said:
Based on what we've seen so far, I've made a temporary setlist for the English Forbidden Light for anyone interested! :D

1. Exeggcute
2. Alolan Exeggutor
3. Snover
4. Abomasnow
5. Scatterbug
6. Scatterbug
7. Spewpa
8. Vivillon
9. Skiddo
10. Gogoat
11. Pheromosa
12. Alolan Marowak
13. Heatran
14. Fennekin
15. Fennekin
16. Braixen
17. Delphox
18. Litleo
19. Pyroar
20. Froakie
21. Froakie
22. Frogadier
23. Greninja GX
24. Clauncher
25. Clawitzer
26. Amaura
27. Aurorus
28. Bergmite
29. Avalugg
30. Volcanion Prism Star
31. Dewpider
32. Araquanid
33. Magnemite
34. Magneton
35. Magnezone
36. Helioptile
37. Heliolisk
38. Rotom
39. Uxie
40. Mesprit
41. Azelf
42. Espurr
43. Meowstic
44. Honedge
45. Honedge
46. Doublade
47. Aegislash
48. Inkay
49. Malamar
50. Skrelp
51. Dragalge
52. Hoopa
53. Poipole
54. Naganadel GX
55. Cubone
56. Torterra
57. Infernape
58. Gible
59. Gabite
60. Garchomp
61. Riolu?
62. Croakgunk
63. Toxicroak
64. Pancham
65. Binacle
66. Barbaracle
67. Tyrunt
68. Tyrantrum
69. Hawlucha
70. Zygarde
71. Zygarde
72. Zygarde GX
73. Diancie Prism Star
74. Rockruff
75. Rockruff?
76. Lycanroc
77. Alolan Rattata?
78. Alolan Raticate GX?
79. Pangoro
80. Yveltal-GX
81. Guzzlord
82. Empoleon
83. Heatran?
84. Possible Kartana/Celesteela?
85. Flabebe
86. Floette
87. Florges
88. Sylveon
89. Dedenne
90. Klefki
91. Xerneas GX
92. Goomy
93. Goomy
94. Sliggoo
95. Goodra
96. Ultra Necrozma GX
97. Eevee
98. Arceus Prism Star
99. Bunnelby
100. Diggersby
101. Furfrou
102. Noibat
103. Noivern
104. Beast Ball?
105. Beast Ring
106. Bonnie
107. Diantha
108. Eneporter
109. Fossil Excavation Map
110. Judge
111. Lady
112. Lysandre Prism Star
113. Lysandre Labs
114. Mystery Treasure
115. Steel Frying Pan
116. Ultra Recon Squad
117. Ultra Space
118. Wake
119. Beast Energy Prism Star
120. Possible Unit Energy YFD?
121. Greninja GX
122. Naganadel GX
123. Lucario GX
124. Zygarde GX
125. Yveltal-GX
126. Xerneas GX
127. Ultra Necrozma GX
128. Bonnie
129. Diantha
130. Lady
131. Ultra Recon Squad
132. Wake
133. Greninja GX
134. Naganadel GX
135. Lucario GX
136. Zygarde GX
137. Yveltal-GX
138. Xerneas GX
139. Ultra Necrozma GX
140. Beast Ring
141. Energy Recycler
142. Steel Frying Pan
143. SR Trainer
144. SR Trainer
145. Possible Unit Energy YFD?

There should be 8 GX cards, 5 Prism Stars and 6 Ultra Beasts, as well as 15 Trainer cards and 2 Special Energies, and the amount of cards (not including secret rares) is just over 132 (set description mentions 130+ cards).
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You got me. Dude. I think you replace Riolu with something else like... Buzzwole but it makes 7/6. I wish 2 of the UB were Checklane promos. I'll post my partial set list once an English SM6 card revealed.

What if Heatran was replaced by Sugimori Flabebe? They released Sugimori ver. of a Basic of a Stage 2 line like Gible.
 
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