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CarlosDuranJr

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I think that Emboar with Magmortar TM will be alot of fun to run just keep drawing your fire energy with interviewer's questions, and use emboar to lay it all onto Magmortar and discard the cards from the top of the opponent's deck each turn. then using energy returner and fisherman to bring it back if you get a tails. if you can manage to get 12 fire onto Magmortar, then it will be amazing.

it will need a really high HP tank though.

thoughts?

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Magmortar [TM]

Enbuoh – Fire –HP150
Stage 2 – Evolves from Chaobuu

Ability: Fervid Dance
Choose 1 Fire Energy card from your hand and attach it to one of your Pokemon. This ability can be used any number of times during your turn.

[R][R][C][C] Heat Stamp: 80 damage.

Weakness: Water (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 4
 
i want to run this deck when BW comes out. run about 30 energies maybe heatran x to get at least 2 back if flipped tails. it would be a good deck IMO
 
If you can get this out fast enough, it might even stand a chance against Lostgar, by discarding their Lost Worlds. Of course, that would mean getting out a Stage 2, at least 1 Stage 1, (optionally) a basic lv.X with 4 retreat cost and 10+ energies around turn 3. Cool strategy, but it just has speed problems.
 
^ well also they wont have lost world t3. they wont have that till you have 6 in the LZ. they would be using judge what ever anyway so they wont be keeping LW in there hand. its a crazy disruptive deck...maybe even tech in a giratina x....that would be insane if you got ever thing set up.
 
I think Flygon X would be better than tina X. since Giratina discards from their hand, while Flygon X removes their topdeck. as well as the level below it making fire type have free retreat if it has any fire energy attached to it. plus the 150 to a Lv X of my choice if your opponent has one being pesky somewhere.

maybe a list like this:

pokemon: 23

2-1-2-2 Flygon X
3-2-3 Emboar B/w
3-3 Magmortar TM
1-0-1 Charizard AR (just in case you have to attack and not take away from magmortar's killer move)

t/s/s: 23
2 BTS
4 rare candy
2 collector
3 communication
3 I Q
2 Engineer's Adjustments
2 Palmer's Contribution
2 Fisherman
3 Energy returner (B/W)

energy: 14
14 fire
no need for catcher, since you're attacking their deck.

to make this I need:
0-0-1-2 flygon X
0-1 Magmortar
1 palmer's
1 fisherman
and all B/W cards

think I can trade 1 catcher for 2 or 3 energy returner?

the BEST part is... it's RR-on. so next rotation, you don't have to remove ANYTHING!!! (assuming it's RR-on)
 
flygon is uneeded because youw ill most likely be discarding 10+ cards each turn. i was thinking that they have no hand as well would be a total lock for them. also it would help if they cant attack because magmortar only has 100...which hurts him alot.
 
I was thinking flygon X just in case you get tails and don't have fisherman in your hand. so u can stall a bit, have pretty good attacks (since your bench will be full of evolved pokemon) it nullifies Magmortar's high retreat cost, all while still discarding topdeck between turns.

this deck can only get better next year after rotation. although the loss of BTS will slow it a bit, but not too much
 
so lets see...
the opponets deck is 60 - 7 for hand and 6 for prize = 47
lets say it takes you 2-3 turn to get set up and you discard 7 with your attacks. they should be down to 25-30 cards whith their setting up and drawing. and you discard like 5-10 per turn depending on a flip right? (fisherman gets your 4 back and you draw one) thats about 3-4 more turns till win.

a win in 8 turns right?
 
yes. not to mention their own draw power that they may be running. (uxie, PONT, cheerleader's cheer, emcee's chatter, engineer's adjustments. so on and so forth)

so a turn 5 or 6 win is not out of the question.

just saw you included their setting up on your post =p

but yeah, your assumptions of this running smoothly is quite accurate. eventhough I still see it winning in less turns if you can keep magmortar alive and are lucky with heads flips. I recommend a Chikorita coin.
 
why chikorita coin?

Anyways I plan on running this deck aswell and I will will be running these lines:

4-4 Magmortar TM
2-2-2 Enboar
2-2 Ninetales HGSS/COL
-18

4 fisherman
4 energy retrieval
3 IQ
3 BTS
2 Rare Candy
3 Collector
-19

2 Rescue Energy
21 Fire energy


The ninetales is a must in this deck as your already running all the recovery trainers
flygon is really uneeded and you can just use the space for better consistancey

like you said beofre minus BTS this deck is RR on infact its HGSS on so thsi could be the BDITNF(the best deck in the next format) by discarding lost worlds I think it could give lostgar a run for its money


i've gotten all the cards I need for this cept the B/W cards
 
i have an idea. do a 3-3 ninetails. 2 from HGSS and 1 from UL. think about it. its first attack takes 1 energy and you get 3 energys back on magmortar. buuut the problem is that you have to run warp or switch. but use ninetails twice and you have 6 and then how ever energies you have from emboar. i would say run 25 energies. deck them out with 25 energies on magmortar :D that would be the most amazing thing ever rofl
 
I just can't wait to outright deck someone with super speed. it's like "oh.. you just drew 20 cards to setup.. what a noob"
 
^ i think if they see magmortar they wont uxie drop any more. the beauty of it is that its not that fast of a deck so they will have already used set up like 4 times lol. i want to play this deck now.
 
I think we've covered all the bases so far as what should be in there. like the skeleton. we just need to discuss tanking and counters. should the counter be an electric pokemon or leaf? a water deck would make this fall. fast. I'm thinking a normal-type for tanking. that way you only have to tech in non fire energy for the counter. I think Heatran lv X would do nicely in this deck, but it would only be able to assist this year. http://www.pokemon.com/us/trading-cards/database/diamond-pearl-series/dp7/97/
 
i just thought of a weird tank. think you have discarded like 20 of there cards. they kill magmortar, send out vibrava and then just use energy typhoon to OHKO and then when he is revenge KOed what ever send in another magmortar. crazy but that would be awesome.
 
flygon X with memory berry? =) but it would work against a deck that has 10+ energy in it. not so much a gyarados deck. but next rotation people will have to use more energy. so it'll work better then.
 
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