I just wanted to point this out, but mamanbou or however you spell it is most likely luvdisc's evo as we all think, but there is a twist. Just because all the pre-national pokedex pokemon are new, doesn't mean it isn't the evolution. Since it was released later, it could only be bred with some item that we find later in the game that will give us a luvdisc. 90% of all pokemon are related to at least one other through evolution and there is no evidence that it isn't related. discuss if this doesn't get closed