XY9 Frogadier!

On their way to revealing Greninja and Greninja BREAK, the official Japanese Pokemon Twitter has now revealed Frogadier (#28/80) from Rage of the Broken Sky. Thanks goes to Bangiras for the translation!

Frogadier – Water – HP70
Stage 1 – Evolves from Froakie

[W] Water Clone: Search your deck for up to 3 Frogadier and put them on your Bench. Shuffle your deck afterward.

Weakness: Grass (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1

In the wake of the previously revealed Item cards that are supporting Basic Pokemon, I wonder if this card is hinting that this set is going to be accelerating Evolutions. After all, the set’s theme is “Pokemon-EX vs. Mega Evolutions vs. BREAK Pokemon” – and two out of three of those are Evolutions. We’ll see!

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  1. Jace2012 Aspiring Trainer
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    Seems like a nice attack although it could clog up your bench potentially... Unless Greninja BREAK is super playable, I do not think this will see much play.
     
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  2. Blui lv85 paladin
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    >Go second
    >Start Froakie
    >Play Wally
    >Attach [W] Energy
    >4 Frogadier
    >???
    >Profit!

    This seems like a really sweet Stage 1, artwork is awesome too. Greninja XY with Greninja BREAK could become a thing, and I'm all for that.
     
  3. Wow. A useful Stage 1 of 2. These don't come around very often.
     
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  4. Pipotchi Aspiring Trainer
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    what more can you ask for from a middle evo tbh? seems great. hopefully greninja proves equally good

    edit: also this card is so weird and unique- i dont remember seeing an evolution card with only one attack that cant possibly do any damage or even place counters before
     
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  5. Alexander Degtyarev Retro TCG Player
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    Well there already is a Greninja that isn't bad. Poblem has generally been to get them out with enough energy to blast the opponent's Active with. This helps in that regard.
     
  6. Whitney's Miltanks Milk Maniac
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    This card is absolutely amazing. Between XY Greninja, Wally, Dive Ball, and the Fisherman reprint setting up a set of Greninja to hurl water shurikens into the opponent seems like a breeze, maybe even without using rare candy. Plus we still have hype for the new damage dealing greninja and Greninja BREAK to stack abilities with XY Greninja. Hopefully Delphox and Chesnaught get some equally decent support.

    Not that I'd be playing them over the ninja cow deck anytime soon.
     
  7. postmodern_pinko So postmodern
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    Frogadier is an immigrant from Kirigakure.
     
  8. MegaButterfree Old Timer
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    I think this Frogadier will help the viability Greninja BREAK, as it saves you from taking up 3 spaces in your deck for Froakie. Of course, that still means 13 spaces if you want to run 4 Greninja BREAK cards, and you'll also need some other basics for your first draw odds. Of course, a full run of strong basic EX cards (or weak ones if you like Emolga EX) only takes up 4 spaces in a deck. Multi-stagers still need a lot of help to compete with that (beyond the 2-prize rule).
     
  9. TheFlyingPidove Missing the old days
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    I wonder if Greninja has 140 HP
    Because it's BREAK has 170 HP
    If so, evolving Frogadier will give you 70 more HP :p
    That would be crazy!

    Frogadier has pretty beautiful art :)
     
  10. Materious17 Pokemon Geologist
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    This Frogadier reminds me of an old friend *ponders off in the distance thinking of Gabite with Dragon's Call*

    Greninja, like Garchomp, is all about speed, and a very useful stage 1 Pokemon like this lets that speed dream be a possibility. Even with 4 Froakie to help get out the first Frogadier quickly, Level ball and Dive balls are all you will need to fill your bench with 4 Greninja (XY) by turn 2-3 and Water Shuriken to your hearts content.

    Needless to say, as my favorite card in Standard is Greninja XY, I am excited.
     
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  11. SpunkyBandy Aspiring Trainer
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    Hang on, isn't this an oxymoron that the TPC is making a Greninja BREAK card when it already has like this pseudo-Mega Evolution in the anime?
     
  12. Water Pokémon Master I like Pokemon more than you. :D
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  13. thood Konohagakure Shinobi
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    Greninja Break looks pretty playable
     
  14. DevinTheWelf A Mach Punch User
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    Holy... this water support is crazy... AND FIRE JUST GOT SOME HORRIBLE SPECIAL ENERGY. Smh Pokémon, smh.
     
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  15. Ms Hugo Aspiring Trainer
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    So with this out on an XY Greninja, and with another XY Greninja on the bench, you can discard 3 Water energy to kill a Shaymin without even attacking. Exciting!
     
  16. Ramo0927 I am a
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    manaphy seems pretty good to be in a deck with other water types.

    so basically, if the kyurem EX (ancient origins)has 1 water energy attached to him, he can switch any time! that and the move iceablur(idk how 2 spell) equals good strategy right?
     
  17. Robin Aisaga Ginger Lillie > Regular Lillie
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    If you evolved Greninja Break from XY Base Set, you could do 150 Damage by discarding two water energy. Even better you can still attack! You could do even more damage if you are able to switch into another Greninja Break. Manaphy will be a great help. I see potential. Also both have pretty nice artwork.
     
  18. Alexander Degtyarev Retro TCG Player
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    Manaphy EX goes right into Regice MManectric.
     
  19. Vivek Evil Yveltal
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    For Greninja's first attack, I see 40 damage plus the effect.
    Or is it only me.
     
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  20. Materious17 Pokemon Geologist
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    2 Greninja BREAKs with Greninja (XY) as the base. With free retreat you can discard 4 water energy between the 2 of them and deal 180 damage to any target you want. With Frogadier you can build a bench of a lot of Greninja really quickly and stack up the damage even more.

    Hell, even this new Greninja has useful attacks, one-sided ability lock for a colorless and 40 damage, the number seems low, but combined with giant water shuriken and water shurikens and you are out damaging a Crobat line significantly.

    Greninja XY with Greninja BREAK and fisherman/energy retrieval is a recipe for intense control and damage.

    Oh, and Manaphy EX has a different kind of support than I was expecting, but a very useful partner for Primal Kyogre-EX and M Gyarados-EX indeed.

    Don't know where you are getting the 150 number from, Greninja (XY) does 30, and this BREAK does 60 for discarding a water, so 2 water from a Greninja BREAK on top of a Greninja (XY) would at most be 90 damage.