Alternate Type Empoleon from SM5+!

Originally a Water-type in SM5, Empoleon will be reprinted as a Metal-type in SM5+ Ultra Force this January:

Empoleon – Metal – HP160
Stage 2 – Evolves from Prinplup

[M][C] Total Command: 20x damage. This attack does 20 damage times the number of Pokemon on each player’s Bench.

[M][M][C] Whirlpool: 90 damage. Discard 1 Energy from your opponent’s Active Pokemon.

Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 2

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  1. TotoBoss Kappa
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    Pokemon: "Hey, JUST in case we didn't kill gardy enough yet, here's some more metal support!"
     
  2. ForeverRanger91 Aspiring Trainer
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    TPCi is trying to ensure that Gardy is pounded into a pulp. Although I fail to see how you would use this in an Empoleon deck without the use of something like Rainbow or Counter Energy.
     
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  3. AuraJackle Aspiring Trainer
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    Yea I'm gonna use the zero acceleration crappy weakness empoleon over the water one totally
     
  4. Advancer The old tree that still blooms.
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    Is it actually going to have the same art in both sets? I prefer the how they had different art for the alternative type Araquanid and Shiinotic in SM+ GX Battle Boost.
     
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  5. kusa Aspiring Trainer
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    so we got fighting type garchomp instead of the dragon type with the same moveset too? that would be so nice :3
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2017
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  6. crystal_pidgeot Bird Trainer *Vaporeon on PokeGym*
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    I guess this is going to be a thing now?
     
  7. IronCow Tom Aspiring Trainer
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    The picture wouldn't load, so I was wondering what the Art would be, "What if it was the exact same?" I thought.

    Oh.
     
  8. Rindon Aspiring Trainer
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    I really like the alternate type of empoleon...your right on both points regarding Gardevoir but more importantly how to fit both water and metal types in together with a consistant energy option. Rainbow energy works but I am seeing more and more enhanced hammers being played in decks.
     
  9. CaptZero Aspiring Trainer
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    Metal? Zero acceleration? Where have you been?
     
  10. HouchinsDJ Aspiring Trainer
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    I think the Water version is still superior, having access to the new Crasher Wake Supporter and Aqua Patch. Plus, a weakness to Lightning is way better than Fire in our current format.

    If you're running the Steel variant, it might be neat to run one copy of the Water-type along with Counter Energy just in case you run into a Fire deck.
     
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  11. jessalakasam Floette is love Floette is life
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    SM5+ is an expansion to SM5, hence why many cards in the set will likely be reprints of SM5 cards. This is nothing new to "+" sets
     
  12. AuraJackle Aspiring Trainer
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    In standard metal has no energy acceleration that works with empoleon
     
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  13. SmiteKnight Destroying half the universe one snap at a time
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    *cough* Registeel *cough* (and magnezone etc)
     
  14. Juliacoolo Always happy to talk! Send me a message :)
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    I wonder if this will start to become a trend with upcoming sets. By perpetually throwing the kitchen sink at the incumbent BDIF, additional sets become must-buys for competitive players. This constant 'one-upping' drives short-run sales and increases turnover ratio. Interesting business implications here.
     
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  15. GamePhoenix BOTW Addict
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    Have you even looked on Pokebeach over the past months?
     
  16. Tytus Aspiring Trainer
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    Kinda Weird seeing an Empoleon weak to fire;). Still going to use the water type one so I can use Wake and Aqua patch for excellaration.
     
  17. Tauros_Herder1986 Aspiring Trainer
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    You'd probably be playing Counter Energy in an Empoleon deck anyway.
     
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  18. GoldenYungoos A shiny Yungoos appeared!
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    magnazone doesn't work with empoleon, registeel could work but mainly when you have piplups in play, with the water one we'll have crasher blake and aqua patch so...
     
  19. gumball51321 *thumbs up*
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    It's a good one or two-of in Empoleon. Glaceon isn't your greatest matchup, and Koko kind of just backhands you, and you should already be playing Counter Energy in Empoleon. I Don't see Crasher Wake helping in the slightest, since I would think Empoleon wouldn't play more than 7 basic Water, so getting 2 of them, AND Wake in your hand all at the same time seem pretty unlikely. Then again, with all the consistency this format has to offer, I could easily be proven wrong as easily as I can be proven right.
     
  20. SmiteKnight Destroying half the universe one snap at a time
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    This was mostly do disprove the statement that metal has no acceleration. Registeel/magnezone arent good with metal empoleon really, i was just talking about the amount of energy acceleration has.