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Standard ZamBats v0.0 (M Alakazam EX / Crobat)

TuxedoBlack

Old School Player
Member
Yes, another Bats deck, but far more lethal, IMO.

One of the first Fates collide cards that caught my eye was the new M Alakazam EX. Its attack, Zen Force, inflicts 10 + 30 damage per each damage counter already on the Defending Pokémon. So, this Pokémon can hit some big number easily when you partner it with the Bats; and do so for just PC energy cost (or just P energy cost should a Dimension Valley be in play). Complementing this attack is Alakazam EX's Spoon Bending Ability which allows you to place damage counters onto the Defending, as well as 1 opponent's benchd Pokémon.

Alakazam-EX – Psychic – HP160
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Spoon Bending
When this Pokemon evolves into M Alakazam EX, you may place 2 damage counters on your opponent’s Active Pokemon and 3 damage counters on 1 of your opponent’s Benched Pokemon.

[P][C] Suppression: Place 3 damage counters on each of your opponent’s Pokemon that has any Energy attached to it.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.

Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance:
Retreat: 2

M Alakazam-EX – Psychic – HP210
Mega Evolution – Evolves from Alakazam-EX
When 1 of your Pokemon becomes a Mega Evolution, your turn ends.

[P][C] Zen Force: 10+ damage. This attack does 10 damage plus 30 more damage for each damage counter on your opponent’s Active Pokemon.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.

Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance:
Retreat: 1

Pokémon (18)

  • 3 - Alazam EX
  • 2 - Crobat
  • 3 - Goldbat
  • 3 - M Alakazam EX
  • 3 - Wobbuffet (Bide Barricade)
  • 4 - Zubat
Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums (32)
  • 1 - AZ
  • 1 - Brigette
  • 1 - Delinquent
  • 3 - Dimension Valley
  • 2 - Judge
  • 3 - Level Ball
  • 1 - Lysandre
  • 3 - Professor Birch's Observations
  • 4 - Professor Sycamore
  • 3 - Spirit Link (Alakazam)
  • 3 - Super Scoop Up
  • 3 - Ultra Ball
  • 4 - VS Seeker
Energy (10)
  • 3 - Mystery Energy
  • 7 - Psychic Energy
Strategy:

One of the interesting characteristics of this initial build is that the components can be easily altered to fit different styles. For example:

10 energy may prove to be excessive since these Pokémon can attack with either no or 1 P energy attached. So, a few slots could be potentially replaced.

A Trevenant BREAK line could replace the Bats line. In doing so, Item-locking an opponent would bring a different type of pressure potentially T1 while you setup the Zams. Further, Trevenant BREAK's Silent Fear attack spreads damage counters consistently across the opponent's field. Trevenant BREAK also can serve as a strong secondary, non-EX, 1-energy attacker. lastly, replacing the Bats line with a Trevenant BREAK line affords replacing the SSU too with other cards too.

The main idea behind this initial deck version is to utilize the Bats to drop a sufficient amount of damage counters onto opponent's Defending Pokémon in order to setup 1HKO damage by M Alakazam EX.

Thoughts? Thanks.

 

Ivy_Profen

Aspiring Trainer
Member
Devo sprays might be useful for alakazam. But for bats it's less than ideal. I think a chance for 50 damage and fully heal is better than just 30 or 20 damage. Sometimes pokemon can devolve or get koed as well.
 

smashandslash2

Aspiring Trainer
Member
Yes, another Bats deck, but far more lethal, IMO.

One of the first Fates collide cards that caught my eye was the new M Alakazam EX. Its attack, Zen Force, inflicts 10 + 30 damage per each damage counter already on the Defending Pokémon. So, this Pokémon can hit some big number easily when you partner it with the Bats; and do so for just PC energy cost (or just P energy cost should a Dimension Valley be in play). Complementing this attack is Alakazam EX's Spoon Bending Ability which allows you to place damage counters onto the Defending, as well as 1 opponent's benchd Pokémon.

Alakazam-EX – Psychic – HP160
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Spoon Bending
When this Pokemon evolves into M Alakazam EX, you may place 2 damage counters on your opponent’s Active Pokemon and 3 damage counters on 1 of your opponent’s Benched Pokemon.

[P][C] Suppression: Place 3 damage counters on each of your opponent’s Pokemon that has any Energy attached to it.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.

Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance:
Retreat: 2

M Alakazam-EX – Psychic – HP210
Mega Evolution – Evolves from Alakazam-EX
When 1 of your Pokemon becomes a Mega Evolution, your turn ends.

[P][C] Zen Force: 10+ damage. This attack does 10 damage plus 30 more damage for each damage counter on your opponent’s Active Pokemon.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.

Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance:
Retreat: 1

Pokémon (18)
3 - Alazam EX
2 - Crobat
3 - Goldbat
3 - M Alakazam EX
3 - Wobbuffet (Bide Barricade)
4 - Zubat

Trainers (32)
1 - AZ
1 - Brigette
1 - Delinquent
3 - Dimension Valley
2 - Judge
3 - Level Ball
1 - Lysandre
3 - Professor Birch's Observations
4 - Professor Sycamore
3 - Spirit Link (Alakazam)
3 - Super Scoop Up
3 - Ultra Ball
4 - VS Seeker

Energy (10)
3 - Mystery - to help with retreating
7 - Psychic

One of the interesting characteristics of this initial build is that the components can be easily altered to fit different styles. For example:

10 energy may prove to be excessive since these Pokémon can attack with either no or 1 P energy attached. So, a few slots could be potentially replaced.

A Trevenant BREAK line could replace the Bats line. In doing so, Item-locking an opponent would bring a different type of pressure potentially T1 while you setup the Zams. Further, Trevenant BREAK's Silent Fear attack spreads damage counters consistently across the opponent's field. Trevenant BREAK also can serve as a strong secondary, non-EX, 1-energy attacker. lastly, replacing the Bats line with a Trevenant BREAK line affords replacing the SSU too with other cards too.

Strategy

The main idea behind this initial deck version is to utilize the Bats to drop a sufficient amount of damage counters onto opponent's Defending Pokémon in order to setup 1HKO damage by M Alakazam EX.

Thoughts? Thanks.
Why in tarnation are you running Professor Birch when N is back in format? Cut down to like 5 Psychic Energies, and also get rid of the Brigette. Run some Devolution Sprays, and run some Trainer's Mails too. I'd probably run something like this;
Pokémon (19)
3 - Alakazam EX
2 - Crobat
3 - Golbat
3 - M Alakazam EX
3 - Wobbuffet (Bide Barricade)
4 - Zubat
1 - Shaymin EX

Trainers (33)
1 - AZ
4 - Dimension Valley
2 - N
1 - Lysandre
4 - Professor Sycamore
3 - Alakazam Spirit Link
3 - Super Scoop Up
3 - Ultra Ball
4 - VS Seeker
4 - Trainer's Mail
2 - Devolution Spray
2 - Repeat Ball


Energy (8)
3 - Mystery
5 - Psychic

I still think it needs a little bit of work, but this seems like a pretty good place to start. Hope this helps!
 

TuxedoBlack

Old School Player
Member
Why in tarnation are you running Professor Birch when N is back in format? Cut down to like 5 Psychic Energies, and also get rid of the Brigette. Run some Devolution Sprays, and run some Trainer's Mails too.

I honestly forgot about N being available.

Super Scoop Up are used to recover the Bats; Devolution Spray will not provide the same opportunity to drop 5 damage counters (Golbat and Crobat).

4 Trainer's Mail is excessive since one would not need to play all of those after the game begins.
 

ToToLaw

Aspiring Trainer
Member
trainer's mail would not be excessive, it provides consistency throughout the game. Also I think super rod is needed to recover discarded bats or M Alazakam EX. I would replace 1 Wobbuffet (since 2 should be good) with one Hoopa EX, it gets a maximum of 3 Alazakam EX out by just one ultra ball, very useful in T1 set up
 

Dark Espeon

Dark Avatar
Member
Hi TuxedoBlack,

Alakazam is indeed a nice choice. Not sure on the Crobat line since it takes a lot of space on the bench and in the deck. In addition it also slows the deck down. Consider to run M Alakazam combined with Hoopa Ex on his own. Wobbuffet can serve as a decent non-Ex attacker since he also benefits from Alakazam. This would allow the deck to run like 8 energies and more room for consistency cards and a maxed out number of Devolution Spray and Super Scoop Up to reuse Alakazam multiple times. A tech Absol can also be fit into the deck to make it a little more flexible.
 

TuxedoBlack

Old School Player
Member
After some testing without Bats, Devolution Spray is not that effective against opponent's "big" HP Pokemon and 2HKO'ing certain Pokemon is just not ideal. Also, if your opponent has healing capabilities (e.g., Rough Seas), Devolution Spray is not that effective. On the other hand, dropping multiple Bats during the same turn DOES in fact get enough damage counters onto the targeted Pokemon for an immediate 1HKO.

Any other testing results?
 

Wobawoba21

Aspiring Trainer
Member
I run a similar deck but with 2 absol (no bats ) absol is clutch to make what wouldn't be a ohko possible , also I tried running 3 dimension valley and one sky field because the bench can get clunky plus if they counter it u can get rid of unwanted exes (hoopa, shaymin) I've tested against yzg and garçhonmpdeck so far and did good , and like mentioned ivyprofen Devi good too I run two of those with 4 scoop up and an az , hope this helps
 
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