Help To help a noob...

Discussion in 'VG Competitive Play' started by jo94, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. jo94 Gen 3 lover


    As the title says, I'm new to the vgc (I've played for 2 weeks now on showdown) and I'm looking for some advices. This is my team atm:

    Metagross-Mega @ Metagrossite
    Ability: Clear Body
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Iron Head
    - Zen Headbutt
    - Protect
    - Ice Punch

    Tapu Fini @ Wiki Berry
    Ability: Misty Surge
    Level: 50
    EVs: 244 HP / 252 SpA / 12 Spe
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Scald
    - Dazzling Gleam
    - Protect
    - Calm Mind

    Volcarona @ Buginium Z
    Ability: Flame Body
    Level: 50
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Protect
    - Quiver Dance
    - Bug Buzz
    - Flamethrower

    Persian-Alola @ Aguav Berry
    Ability: Fur Coat
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Fake Out
    - Foul Play
    - Parting Shot
    - Taunt

    Dhelmise @ Leftovers
    Ability: Steelworker
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
    Adamant Nature
    - Shadow Claw
    - Rock Slide
    - Power Whip
    - Protect

    Gastrodon @ Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Storm Drain
    Level: 50
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
    Rash Nature
    IVs: 0 Spe
    - Recover
    - Icy Wind
    - Scald
    - Earth Power

    Any advice is useful

  2. double o squirtle Sweet Summer Child
    double o squirtle


    Hey there, glad to see that someone else wants to try VGC.

    There's the current format, VGC 2018, which I *could* help you for, however, that format only lasts until September 4th, where it will then switch to Sun format. So just a heads up for ya.

    Regardless tho I'll give you some advice for 2018.

    -dhelmise is a bad Pokemon. It's typing is weird for its stats. It's slow, which isn't that much of a problem in VGC, but you're not using trick room so it doesn't have a reason to be used.

    -Tapu fini/M Metagross is an amazing combo, so gj on figuring that out. However muddy water is better than scald due to a potential accuracy drop, as well as burn not being possible due to Misty terrain, and moonblast is good for a much more powerful fairy stab move.

    -I'd recommend firium over buginium for volcarona, and there are a lot of Pokemon that resist bug in the format.

    -persian is an odd choice, don't get me wrong I've seen it put in a lot of work, but I wouldn't say it's the best. As you're still starting however, you might as well keep it. Imo the only thing you should change is the attack EV, as foul play doesn't consider it and fake outs purpose isn't too deal damage.

    - Metagross is fine, tho I'd change zen headbutt to stomping tantrum. The coverage is much better in this format, and zen headbutt is only really useful when paired with lele.

    - Gastrodon doesn't have much of a purpose on your team so I would just consider scrapping it. Like, it's good, but not great for you. Also, this won't matter if you get rid of gastrodon but rash nature is bad when it's not a mixed attacker set.

    So basically, get rid of gastrodon and dhelmise. Instead of those two, I recommend Zapdos and landorus therian. Both of which pair extremely well with fini, and are both excellent Pokemon in the meta. Zapdos has the option to run Misty seed for a boosted spdef, along with the moves thunderbolt, roost, tailwind and heat wave/hidden power ice, while landorus has an extreme amount of versatility, being able to run a special set, physical set, mixed set, choice scarf set, z move set, or assault vest set. Not only that, but it also has a good typing, stats, and intimidate support.

    Hope you found this helpful. If you have any questions about the sun format, a lot of that is still speculation. I am however trying to figure out the meta for it, and I'm not always on the forums, so if you ever want to ask some quick questions you can always just ask for me in the discord chat.
  3. jo94 Gen 3 lover


    i started testing the sun format, everybody plays xerneas, thus I tried duskmane but don't really know what to pair it with.
  4. suraci The Angel That Flew Too Close To the Sun


    Mostly Lele Bc yveltal cant sucker punch you, and photon geyser is 100 base power + STAB
    Kyogre is also Good because it covers Groudon, Dusk Mane's Primary weakness
  5. suraci The Angel That Flew Too Close To the Sun


    100 base power + Stab + Psychic terrain Boost
  6. jo94 Gen 3 lover


    Seems legit
  7. Perfect_Shot Standard sucks, so Ban Expanded


    The usual 'meta' counter for Xerneas the last time this ruleset was used was to bring Bronzong to deal with it instead of wasting one of your legend slots on a Steel type. Since most Xerneas players can't help but not use Geomancy right away, Bronzong gets a big boost to it's Gyro Ball attack (enough to knock it out) and it also gets Trick Room to help your slow 'Mons as well as to punish Xerneas further for using Geomancy. Having Levitate means Groudon can't hit you with it's STAB.

    It's a pretty good choice in this format overall and with the Tapu around it has that many more 'Mons to hit for weakness.
  8. jo94 Gen 3 lover


    great, TY!

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