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SV6.5 releases August 2nd, 2024.

SV6 Official Setlist | SV7 Prospective Setlist​
 
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CORE SET (--/??)

Pokémon ex: --/??
Pokémon Tera-ex: --/??
Ace Spec: --/??

[???] Celebi (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Nymble (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Lokix (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Toedscool (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Toedscruel (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Ponyta (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Rapidash (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Reshiram (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Charcadet (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Lapras (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Marill (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Azumarill (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Froakie (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Frogadier (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Greninja 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Pawmi (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Mewtwo (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Flittle (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Espathra (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Greavard (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Houndstone 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Munkidori 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (Night Wanderer, speculation)
[???] Fezandipiti 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (Night Wanderer, speculation)
[???] Meditite (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Medicham (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Riolu (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Lucario 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Garganacl 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (Gym Promo series 4, speculation)
[???] Koraidon (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Okidogi 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (Night Wanderer, speculation)
[???] Bombirdier (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Pecharunt 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (speculation)
[???] Jirachi (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Meltan (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Melmetal 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Varoom (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Revavroom (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Tauros (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Eevee (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Lechonk (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Cyclizar (Battle Academy, speculation)
[???] Flamigo 30px-Pokémon_ex.png (Gym Promo series 5, speculation)
[???] Tyme (Gym Promo series 5, speculation)

[C] Collect: Draw a card. / [G] Leaf Step: 30 damage
[C] Tackle: 10 damage.
[C] Spiral Kick: 50 damage.
[G] Ram: 10 damage. / [G][C] Gentle Slap: 20 damage.
[G][C] Mega Drain: 30 damage. Heal 30 damage from this Pokémon. / [G][C][C] Whip Smash: 90 damage.
[R] Flop: 10 damage.
[R][C] Burning Run: 60+ damage. Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 60 more damage.
[R][C][C] Heat Blast: 90 damage.
[R][C] Flare: 30 damage.
[W] Water Gun: 20 damage. / [W][C][C] Surf: 80 damage.
[C] Rollout: 10 damage.
[W][C] Bubble Beam: 60 damage. Flip a coin. If heads, your opponent’s Active Pokemon is now Paralyzed.
[W][C] Rain Splash: 20 damage.
[W][C] Wave Splash: 40 damage.
[W][C] Phantom Shiruken: 100+ damage. Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 100 more damage.
[L] Targeted Spark: This attack does 20 damage to 1 of your opponent’s Pokémon. (Don’t apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokémon.)
[P][C][C] Super Psy Bolt: 100 damage.
[P] Peck: 10 damage.
[P] Psy Flash: 50 damage.
[C][C] Paw Shake Punch: 20 damage. / [P][C][C] Bite: 50 damage.
[P][C][C] Horror Fang: 100+ damage. Flip a coin until you get tails. This attack does 20 more damage for each heads.
[F] Beat: 10 damage.
[F] Double Smash: 40x damage. Flip 2 coins. This attack does 40 damage for each heads.
[F][C] Punch: 30 damage.
[F][C] Low Kick: 50 damage. / [F][F][C] Knuckle Pulse: 120 damage.
Ability: Salt Body - This Pokémon can’t be affected by any Special Conditions. / [F][C][C] Block Hammer: 170 damage. During your opponent’s next turn, this Pokémon takes 60 less damage from attacks (after applying Weakness and Resistance).
[F][F] Resolute Fangs: 50+ damage. If your opponent’s Active Pokémon is a Pokémon ex, this attack does 70 more damage.
[D][C] Reckless Charge: 70 damage. This Pokémon also does 20 damage to itself.
[C] Overflowing Wishes: Attach a Basic Energy card from your discard pile to 1 of your Benched Pokémon.
[M] Stampede: 10 damage. / [M][C][C] Beam: 40 damage.
[M][M][C][C] Iron Swing: 100x damage. Flip 2 coins. This attack does 100 damage for each heads.
[C][C] Ram: 30 damage.
[M][C][C] Untamed Dash: 100 damage.
[C][C][C] Destructive Horn: 70 damage. Flip a coin. If heads, discard an Energy from your opponent’s Active Pokémon.
[C] Call for Family: Search your deck for a Basic Pokemon and put it onto your Bench. Then, shuffle your deck. / [C][C] Gnaw: 20 damage.
[C] Rear Kick: 30 damage.
[C] Tail Slap: 10 damage. / [C][C] Speed Attack: 50 damage.
[C][C] Exact Beak: 30+ damage. If this Pokémon and your opponent’s Active Pokémon have the same number of Energy attached, this attack does 100 more damage. / [C][C][C] Brave Bird: 200 damage. This Pokémon does 30 damage to itself.
Put a Pokémon from your hand face down in front of you and tell your opponent its HP. They guess the name of that Pokémon, and then you reveal it. If your opponent guessed right, they draw 4 cards. If they guessed wrong, you draw 4 cards. Return the Pokémon to your hand.
 
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SECRET RARES (--/??)

[???] GOLD Basic {D} Energy (Ancient Roar, SVE#007, speculation)
[???] GOLD Basic {M} Energy (Future Flash, SVE#008, speculation)

Basic {D} Energy
Basic {M} Energy
 
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CARDS INTENTIONALLY EXCLUDED

CONFIRMED PROMOS

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POSSIBLE PROMOS

IR Bulbasaur (Special Deck Set ex Venusaur & Charizard & Blastoise, MEW#001)
Pansear (Gym Promo series 4, PAR#020)
IR Squirtle (Special Deck Set ex Venusaur & Charizard & Blastoise, MEW#007)
Horsea (Gym Promo series 4, PAR#030)
Wooper (Gym Promo series 5)
Quagsire (Gym Promo series 5)
Pachirisu (CoroCoro promo - February 2024)
Latias (CoroCoro promo - November 2023)
Yamask (Gym Promo series 4, PAR#075)
Tinkaton (Gym Promo series 4)
IR Munkidori (Mask of Change, TWM#095)
IR Fezandipity (Mask of Change, TWM#096)
IR Okidogi (Mask of Change, TWM#111)
Porygon2 (Gym Promo series 4, PAR#143)

see MEW#001
see PAR#020
see MEW#007
see PAR#030
[W] Draw Water: Shuffle up to 3 Basic [W] Energy cards from your discard pile into your deck. / [W] Headbutt: 10 damage
[W] Rollout: 30 damage. / [W][C][C] Drenched Noggin: 80x damage. Discard the top 3 cards of your deck. This attack does 80 damage for each Energy card you discarded in this way.
[C] Crackling Charge: Flip 3 coins. For each heads, attach a Basic [L] Energy from your discard pile to your Benched Pokémon in any way you like. / [L][C] Tiny Bolt: 30 damage.
Ability: Mist Float - If this Pokémon has any [P] Energy attached, it has no Retreat Cost. / [P][P][C] Psychic Sphere: 100 damage.
see PAR#075
[P] Knock Off: 40 damage. Discard a random card from your opponent’s hand. / [P][C][C] Wild Press: 220 damage. This Pokémon also does 60 damage to itself.
see TWM#095
see TWM#096
see TWM#111
see PAR#143

OTHER CARDS

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If what we are hearing about this set is true, we may see a focus on Dragon types like Kingdra and Flygon.
 
Kangaflora said:
If what we are hearing about this set is true, we may see a focus on Dragon types like Kingdra and Flygon.
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There is no Japanese equivalent though, so the most comparable set here is Champion's Path.

I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea. Most probably their sales are faltering and special sets have been a money generator for them but there are only 2 Japanese sets that they can take cards from - Night Wanderer and Stellar Miracle.

There are only 2 cut cards from Twilight Masquerade - both Illustration Rares.

Night Wanderer and Stellar Miracle by themselves are an equivalent of Twilight Masquerade (Crimson Haze + Mask of Change) so that set (SV7) will be nerfed as well to accommodate for this Frankenstein crap.

The outstanding Battle Academy cards and the rest of the gym promos could've easily been put into sets since they are 99% common cards and RR cards are also worthless and already have boosted rates in sets. This is going to be a disastrous set.

I think the only silver lining is maybe it will mean the pull rates for SIRs will not be as bad as Temporal Forces or Twilight Masquerade since they are forced to split them up into 2 sets.
 
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beatbox2000 said:
There is no Japanese equivalent though, so the most comparable set here is Champion's Path.

I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea. Most probably their sales are faltering and special sets have been a money generator for them but there are only 2 Japanese sets that they can take cards from - Night Wanderer and Stellar Miracle.

There are only 2 cut cards from Twilight Masquerade - both Illustration Rares.

Night Wanderer and Stellar Miracle by themselves are an equivalent of Twilight Masquerade (Crimson Haze + Mask of Change) so that set will be nerfed as well to accommodate for this Frankenstein crap.

The outstanding Battle Academy cards and the rest of the gym promos could've easily been put into sets since they are 99% common cards and RR cards are also worthless and already have boosted rates in sets. This is going to be a disastrous set.

I think the only silver lining is maybe it will mean the pull rates for SIRs will not be as bad as Temporal Forces or Twilight Masquerade since they are forced to split them up into 2 sets.
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Yeah, I was hoping the rumours were false. There is no reason for this set to exist.
This could be based on Paradise Dragona like the article is suggesting but the dates do not line up. Paradise Dragona should come out by mid-august/early-september which would mean that we would get the cards way before Japan, which would be unprecedented. If it actually happens I think the japanese SV8 might be a double set, otherwise our SV8 will end up being just one set (at least it would be a departure from the big bloated sets we are having since SM).
 
I think that they will add most of the Battle Academy cards, except for Koraidon, I can see that being a promo. I also think that they may add Wooper, Quagsire, Venusaur ex, Charizard ex, and Blastoise ex. And maybe the Victini ex full art and SIR. I can see them adding Paradise Dragona or Night Wanderer. If they don't add Paradise Dragona, then they should put it in SV7.

So here's what I think this set will look like:
Battle Academy + Wooper and Quagsire Gym Promos + Venusaur, Charizard, and Blastoise ex + Night Wanderer.

SV7 should be Stellar Miracle, Paradise Dragona, and the Stellar Tera Decks.

"Soooo, what do you think?"
 
beatbox2000 said:
There is no Japanese equivalent though, so the most comparable set here is Champion's Path.

I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea. Most probably their sales are faltering and special sets have been a money generator for them but there are only 2 Japanese sets that they can take cards from - Night Wanderer and Stellar Miracle.

There are only 2 cut cards from Twilight Masquerade - both Illustration Rares.

Night Wanderer and Stellar Miracle by themselves are an equivalent of Twilight Masquerade (Crimson Haze + Mask of Change) so that set (SV7) will be nerfed as well to accommodate for this Frankenstein crap.

The outstanding Battle Academy cards and the rest of the gym promos could've easily been put into sets since they are 99% common cards and RR cards are also worthless and already have boosted rates in sets. This is going to be a disastrous set.

I think the only silver lining is maybe it will mean the pull rates for SIRs will not be as bad as Temporal Forces or Twilight Masquerade since they are forced to split them up into 2 sets.
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I agree with you.
 
Guessing that the two 3 pack blisters will feature Tinkaton and Latias as promos.

IR collection will be the Loyal 3 cut from TWM.

One of the ex Special collections will be Greninja ex, Froakie and Frogadier from Battle Academy.

& the other will be a line of 3 cut from the main set of Night Wanderer.

No idea what the ETB promo will be. Pecharunt will likely get an SAR, but would the ETB not feature it? So far the rest of the ETBs have featured ARs. I suppose they could make their own exclusive.
 
People complain about these randomly thrown together sets, but be honest, how much would we have loved for Jamboree to have come out? I think it's great that they find ways to make sure as many JP cards as possible get an international release. Not so interesting for players, but isn't it a welcome change to have a set that doesn't impact the meta?
 
A few new exs just got leaked.

#28: Stellar Tera Cinderace ex

#32 Stellar Tera Lapras ex

#51 Stellar Tera Galvantula ex

#128 Stellar Tera Terapagos ex

There will be 142 cards in the next main set, and the initials next to the set number are SCR. Likely meaning Stellar Crown or Stellar Crystal. These cards should be from Stellar Miracle.
 
Z3RA0RA said:
A few new exs just got leaked.

#28: Stellar Tera Cinderace ex

#32 Stellar Tera Lapras ex

#51 Stellar Tera Galvantula ex

#128 Stellar Tera Terapagos ex

There will be 142 cards in the next main set, and the initials next to the set number are SCR. Likely meaning Stellar Crown or Stellar Crystal. These cards should be from Stellar Miracle.
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There's already a thread for SV7 covering those.
 
Kookaburra Kong said:
But why would they want SCR to cannibalize Pecharunt?
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I am not sure I understand your question. But if there is a Pecharunt ex then it's going to be released in Night Wanderer and there shouldn't be a reason for them to cut it from a potential Loyal-Three-based set to put it in a Terapagos set. Like I said, it doesn't fit thematically.
 
But if we're following the release dates, you'll know that Japan's Crimson Haze released at the same time as our Temporal Forces. So if we get Pecharunt in 6.5, but Paradise Dragona releases in Japan at the same time as "Stellar Creation" but "Stellar Creation" doesn't feature Dragona's cards, then what happens to "Stellar Creation"? Will it be on the same size scale as 151?
 
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