Net Neutrality

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Last week I found a couple of news articles pertaining to this subject from my local paper The Kansas City Star that's a MUST read:

FCC to Reverse Stance on Net

by Edward Wyatt from the New York Times (article issued April 24th, 2014)

Washington - The principle that all Internet content should be treated equally as it flows through cables to consumers looks all but dead. Companies like Disney, Google or Netflix would be allowed to pay Internet service providers like Comcast and Verizon for special, faster lanes to send video and other content to their consumers under rules to be proposed by the Federal Communications Commission, the agency said Wednesday. The proposed rules would be a turn-around for the agency on what is known as net neutrality - the idea that Internet users should have equal ability to see any legal content they choose and that no providers of legal content should be discriminated against in providing their offerings to consumers.

The proposal would come three months after a federal appeals court struck down, for the second time, agency rules intended to guarantee a free and open Internet. The rules could radically reshape how Internet content is delivered to consumers. For example, if a gaming company could not afford the fast track to players, customers could lose interest and its product could fail. The rules would also likely raise prices eventually as the likes of Disney and Netflix passed on to customers whatever they paid for the speedier lanes, which are the digital equivalent of an uncongested car pool lane on a busy freeway.

Consumer groups immediately attacked the proposal, saying that not only would costs rise but that big, rich companies with the money to pay large fees to Internet service providers would be favored over small startups with innovative business models - stifling the birth of the next Facebook or Twitter. "If it goes forward, this capitulation will represent Washington at its worst," said Todd O'Boyle, program director of Common Cause's Media and Democracy Reform Initiative. "Americans were promised, and deserve, an Internet that is free of toll roads, fast lanes and censorship - corporate or governmental."

If the new rules deliver anything less, he added, "that would be betrayal." Broadband companies have pushed for the right to build special lanes. Verizon said during appeals court arguments that if it could make those kinds of deals, it would. FCC officials defended the proposal, saying the rules would still protect an open Internet because the agency would evaluate on a case-by-case basis whether particular charges by Internet service providers were fair to consumers and allowed for adequate competition. The providers would have to disclose how they treat all Internet traffic and on what terms they offered more rapid lanes, and would be required to act "in a commercially reasonable manner," agency officials said.

That standard would be fleshed out as the agency seeks public comment. The proposed rules would also require Internet service providers to disclose whether, in assigning faster lanes, they had favored their affiliated companies that provide content. That could have significant implications for Comcast, the nation's largest provider of high-speed Internet service, because it owns NBCUniversal. Also, Comcast is asking for government permission to take over Time Warner Cable, the third-largest broadband provider, and opponents of the merger say that expanding its reach as a broadband company would give Comcast more incentive to favor its own content over that of unaffiliated programmers. FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler has signaled for months that the federal appeals court decision striking down the earlier rules could force the commission to loosen its definitions of what constitutes an open Internet.

Those earlier rules barred Internet service providers from making deals with services like Amazon or Netflix to allow those companies to pay to stream their products to viewers through a faster, express lane on the Web. The court said that because the Internet is not considered a utility under federal law, it was not subject to that sort of regulation. Opponents of the proposed rules said they appeared to be full of holes, particularly in seeking to impose the "commercially reasonable" standard. "The very essence of a 'commercial reasonableness' standard is discrimination," Michael Weinberg, a vice president at Public Knowledge, a consumer advocacy group, said in a statement. "And the core of net neutrality is nondiscrimination."

He added that the commission and courts had acknowledged that it could be commercially reasonable for a broadband provider to charge a content company higher rates for access to consumers because that company's service was competitively threatening. "This standard allows Internet service providers to impose a new price of entry for innovation on the Internet," Weinberg said. Consumers can pay Internet service providers for a higher-speed Internet connection. But whatever speed they choose, under the new rules, they will get some content faster, depending on what the content provider has paid for.

The fight over net neutrality has gone on for at least a decade and is likely to continue at least until the FCC settles on new rules. Each of the past two times the agency has written rules, one of the Internet service providers has taken it to court to have the rules invalidated. The proposed rules, drafted by Wheeler and his staff, will be circulated to the agency's other four commissioners beginning today and will be released for public comment May 15. They are likely to be put to a vote by the full commission by the end of the year.
Consumer groups rip FCC 'fast lane' rules

by Todd Shields and Chris Strohm of Bloomberg News (article issued April 25th, 2014)

A proposal to let Internet providers charge Netflix, Google and other companies for faster connections to subscribers set off a firestorm among consumer advocates who say it could doom the open Internet. Service providers such as AT&T and Comcast would be able to negotiate deals with content makers such as Netflix and Amazon.com for preferential connections to consumers' televisions and computers, according to a proposal being pitched by Federal Communications Commission chairman Tom Wheeler. "Netflix is not interested in a fast lane, we're interested in safeguarding an open Internet for our members," Christopher Libertelli, vice president of government affairs for the largest video subscription service, said in a statement.

Wheeler defended the proposal in a blog post Thursday, saying it doesn't abandon the FCC's Internet fairness policy. Advocacy groups, including Public Knowledge and Free Press, that have supported rules to prevent Internet service providers from unfairly blocking or slowing Web traffic - known as "Net Neutrality" - objected. 'Pay-for-priority schemes will be a disaster for startups, nonprofits and everyday Internet users who cannot afford these unnecessary tolls," Craig Aaron, president of Free Press, said in an e-mailed statement. He called the proposal "a convoluted path that won't protect Internet users."

Michael Weinberg, vice president of the policy group Public Knowledge, said Wheeler's proposal "is not Net neutrality." The FCC is inviting service providers "to pick winners and losers," Weinberg said in an e-mailed statement. Former FCC commissioner Michael Copps said in a statement that the proposal is "a huge step backwards and must be stopped." "If the commission subverts the open Internet by creating a fast lane for the 1 percent and slow lanes for the 99 percent, it would be an insult to both citizens and to the promise of the Net," said Copps, who now serves as a special adviser to Common Cause's Media and Democracy Reform Initiative.

The FCC has been seeking to replace a rule rejected in January by a U.S. court. The regulation required companies that provide businesses and consumers high-speed Internet service over wires, or broadband, to treat Web traffic equally and didn't let them charge for faster or more reliable access. As it passed the now voided rule in 2010 on a party line vote, the FCC said pay-for-priority arrangements that favored some traffic "could cause great harm to innovation and investment" on the Internet. Sen. Edward Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat who sits on the Senate Commerce Committee, said different speeds contradict the essence of the Internet and its level playing field.

Wheeler who sent the proposal to the five-member agency, Thursday, will push for a preliminary vote next month and wants to have a rule in place by year end. The FCC will test any proposed deals for harm to competition and consumers. Wheeler said in his blogpost that the proposal he is delivering to the agency will bar Internet service providers such as AT&T and Verizon Communications from blocking legal content. It also requires the companies to disclose their policies to subscribers and users and prevents them from acting "in a commercially unreasonable manner to harm the Internet, "including favoring an affiliate's traffic."
So right now there's an online petition going on at Whitehouse.gov to help protect net neutrality (or whatever is left of it) and much like with Congress's rush to pass a new SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) bill into law instead of doing their job such as increasing the Minimum Wage, passing Immigration Reform, or Gun Control laws it's time for us to step up to the plate once again and ensure that the Internet remains free and open the way it was originally intended. So far as I'm typing this there's only 39,769 signatures on the petition and we need 60,231 more to reach the goal of 100,000 by May 24th, 2014 which is the deadline. Here's the link to the petition:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/maintain-true-net-neutrality-protect-freedom-information-united-states/9sxxdBgy

http://www.stoptheslowlane.com/?t=dXNlcmlkPTUyNjkxMzAxLGVtYWlsaWQ9ODUxMQ==

Spread the word on this petition through YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. just make sure this gets out to the public.
 
RE: Help Save Net Neutrality

Call your Senators and Representatives. Call Them! Don't email them, don't mail them a letter, call them!
Especially if your reps/senators have taken "donations" from Comcast. Comcast is without a doubt the enemy. Meet Tom while you're at it.
The problems we are facing are going to take more than petitions, though it's not a bad idea to sign it.
The White House has all but said that they don't care about the online petitions.
It takes 5-10 minutes tops to call and tell them how you feel.
Typically you'll speak to a secretary or aid, but these people see and communicate with the reps/senators almost everyday! Stop going around thinking that your voice isn't heard!
 
RE: Help Save Net Neutrality

I agree with the fact that this needs to never happen ever, but I disagree with what you think the government "needs" to be doing. I don't think the minimum wage should be increased, nor gun "control" laws implemented. Immigration reform maybe, but it depends on what you mean by that. End of off-topic-ness, but I thought I would address your off-topic-ness with my unsolicited opinion about it that you probably don't care about : D

Anyhoo, went to the petition, created an account, signed it. Told some friends about it, don't know if they'll sign it. Doesn't look like the needed number of signatures will be met, which is sad.
 
RE: Help Save Net Neutrality

beebahboo said:
The White House has all but said that they don't care about the online petitions.

Guess that explains why I wasn't able to reset my password at whitehouse.gov when I've waited 10-15 minutes for an e-mail response to fix the problem (which never came by the way). I used to be able to sign online petitions on that website before but I feel that it's going to get harder as the debate over net neutrality drags on.
 
RE: Help Save Net Neutrality

This is the same that the government (well, the president) of Mexico wants to do, but in a worse way, when we saw that he wanted to make a new law that did the same ( and much more worse stuff) than this many Youtubers made videos about that, they spread it on Twitter by using hashtags.

I will try to find a link for the new, it's a by old.

EDIT: It's not an article, but it's better.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8El2QlwbMZM[/video]
 
RE: Help Save Net Neutrality

As much as I hate to admit this I think this is a lost cause due to the Internet being controlled by governments and corporations. I've been getting e-mails to donate money to help stop the FCC from destroying Net Neutrality although I've never donated money for a protest let alone a charity since I'm mainly used to just signing petitions to get my message across. I could post a link to where you can donate money for this fight but I don't want to get in trouble here on the forums...

Mozilla had this to say in reaction to the FCC's decision to kill Net Neutrality:

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm5i5kbIXzc[/video]

So Level 3 Communications, Inc. is a tier 1 network that connects large ISP's to the rest of the Internet (If you can get Internet), they're claiming that 6 different Internet Providers (5 in the U.S. and 1 from Europe) are purposely throttling their customers by lowering their speeds so they can get more money out of Level 3, so If you've been having issues with places like Netflix lately this is probably the reason why.

This is what Level 3's Mark Taylor had to say on the issue, "They are deliberately harming the service they deliver to their paying customers. They are not allowing us to fulfill the requests their customers make for content. Large broadband consumer networks with a dominant or exclusive market share in their local market in countries or markets where consumers have multiple broadband choices there are no congested peers. Our policy is to refuse to pay arbitrary charges to add interconnection capacity."

Now If you remember awhile back Comcast and Verizon did this to Netflix, people who use Comcast and Verizon's Internet when they tried to go on Netflix the speeds would go down to a crawl, they couldn't use Netflix, and Netflix HAD to pay Comcast and Verizon extra money to increase their customer's speed. This is what Netflix CEO Reed Hastings had to say on the issue, "While in the short term Netflix will in cases reluctantly pay ISP's to ensure a high quality member experience, we will continue to fight for the internet the world needs and deserves."

But don't worry Tom Wheeler's new Net Neutrality rules will protect the Internet right? Tom Wheeler who was nominated by President Obama last May lobbied Congress to deregulate the Cable Industry in the early 1980's and as the head of Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association from 1992-2004 he oversaw a number of efforts to keep the Wireless Industry from being hampered with too many annoying FCC regulations. He was also previously president of the National Cable Television Association and the CEO of the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association which are both two really good Lobbying groups who are against Net Neutrality and now he's the Chairman of the FCC.

Now you see why Net Neutrality is so important, we can't depend on Tom Wheeler cause he's been bought and paid for by the ISP's, the Cable Companies, by the Industry, he's their yes man. He doesn't care about keeping Net Neutrality in place cause he's doing what the corporations paid him to do. We need to fight for Net Neutrality cause otherwise everything's going to get more expensive and whose pockets are going to get hurt in the end? Ours. The last thing to happen to the Internet is censorship by the Government and we don't want that to happen do we?
 
Hopefully they'll get to it eventually, the only thing we can really do is spread the word and hope for the best and If we fail then hey at least we tried to make a difference. No matter how much we fight on this it seems like we're only delaying the inevitable since there's too much money in politics, however it's better to contribute to something greater than yourself than to do nothing at all by remaining silent even when it seems like all hope is lost.
 
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