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Expanded Here's a Turbo Turtles list

Nice bling. I think that maybe another baby volc could be useful in the event that they have a Hoopa SHL or alolan ninetales baby. Maybe you could run another field blower because they might have a garbotoxin garbodor because garb is slowly coming back thanks to all of these slightly overpowered abilities. Other than that, a very solid list!
 
Nice bling. I think that maybe another baby volc could be useful in the event that they have a Hoopa SHL or alolan ninetales baby. Maybe you could run another field blower because they might have a garbotoxin garbodor because garb is slowly coming back thanks to all of these slightly overpowered abilities. Other than that, a very solid list!
Rather than a second Blower, I was considering Xerosic, due to the Ability to be fetched with VS Seeker and Tapu Lele GX. I had actually dropped the 2nd copy of baby Volc for the Sudowoodo, but that's something I'm still playtesting. And thanks :)
 
Rather than a second Blower, I was considering Xerosic, due to the Ability to be fetched with VS Seeker and Tapu Lele GX. I had actually dropped the 2nd copy of baby Volc for the Sudowoodo, but that's something I'm still playtesting. And thanks :)
True with the xerosic, but wouldn't it be more important to get your blacksmith?
 
True with the xerosic, but wouldn't it be more important to get your blacksmith?
Well, yes and no. It's very situational. Against Garb, I can likely run with Volcanic Heat most of the game, and I Don't need abilities to OHKO Necrozma, Drampa, or Lele with Bright Flame, I just need a Muscle Band. And playing more items to deal with Garbotoxin just lets Trashalanche come on over and backhand my attackers.
 
I would think that maybe a 1-1 split of lysandre and guzma would be preferable because then you can switch if you have to and not switch if you don't. Also, Battle compressor could be viable, because you need to discard pokemon for the early ho-oh gx attack and fire energy for the blacksmiths. Also, then you could discard your supporters eg:lysandre and guzma so you can be more flexible in the future. Of course, this is the guy who thinks that Talonflame Metagross with professors letter and Sophocles is viable.
 
I was considering Battle Compressor, but the problem with it is that 1. You already draw, and play everything you want to discard early game. And 2. It's more items. Turbo Turtles is good because it has a non item-reliant Turbo engine. So it has strength against Trees and Seismitoad builds, which it would normally completely struggle against if it weren't for the way the deck is played. Yeah, Lysandre sounds decent, but Here's the thing: you like to switch a lot. If I Guzma something out, chances are I want to kill it with something fresh, or get my active Pokemon out of the active spot. It's much more consistent to play 2 Guzma than a 1-1 split in terms of winning games.
 
I get you dont want to be item reliant, and that normally you are ahead in prizes, so N is not useful, but just 1?
 
I get you dont want to be item reliant, and that normally you are ahead in prizes, so N is not useful, but just 1?
Between 4 Sycamore, 3 Scorched Earth, 4 VS Seeker, 2 Shaymin, and 2 Lele, I have quite enough draw power. The only reason I even play the one is to shuffle my opponent's hand back in, otherwise it'd be a Colress.
 
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