Animal euthanasia: Right or Wrong?

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So today in one of my college class we talked about Animal Shelters. Then we got into animal euthanasia. How animals are 'put to sleep' if they are not adopted in a set period of time or they are ill. Sometimes they do it for space. I for one think it is wrong, but sometimes it is necessary.

We also talked about how Horse Jockeys do something called 'Free Bullet', where the owner puts down the horse if it's not 'Race worthy' or is injured.

So what's your opinion on this subject? Do you find it fair to the animal?

And please, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all. This is a serious topic. Also, do not spam this discussion. Make your post count.
 
Completely acceptable. There are too many animals as is. If I wound up lame and worthless and couldn't fend for myself, I would definitely want to get put out of my misery than spend the rest of my days as a husk of my former self. It's unfortunate, but killing 'em all is way better than not killing 'em all and letting them sit there and rot and eat up resources (food, money to pay for housing and care) that could be used for other things.
 
PMJ's right. Euthanasia is acceptable because it can put a suffering animal out of it's misery. It can stop overpopulation. Although people may be against it, it is an acceptable method.
 
I don't think it is. I have never liked this. As a human has rights to live, the same should go for animals. Imagine if you couldn't communicate while going through a serious recovery, you knew you were going to be fine, and BAM-You're dead. Just think people.
 
I hate it, but it's nessesary. There are some no kill shelters, but, they're pretty crowded. So, yes, right.
 
Bah I see no problem with it. Don't argue that if a human shouldn't be killed why should an animal, because humans are extremely intelligent beings and are worth (in my eyes) so much more than an animal.

But, putting down by euthanasia is extremely humane and a great way to do it. I love animals, and when my dog had to be put down, I was not exactly jumping for joy. I was very upset, but it was for the best, she was in so much pain from trying to breathe.

Like PMJ said, if I was bed-ridden and every breath hurt, and I knew there was no way left for me to recover or enjoy myself, then I would like to be issued a lethal injection of some sort and just go.
 
I don't think it is. I have never liked this. As a human has rights to live, the same should go for animals. Imagine if you couldn't communicate while going through a serious recovery, you knew you were going to be fine, and BAM-You're dead. Just think people.
Maybe if you were in a serious coma, and your were in intense pain, put on life support and barely breathing. But some states [and countries] don't allow Human euthanasia, so basically your gonna die a slow and painful death :/

I remember about 7 years ago, my family took me to a shelter to pick out a dog. Well, there was this one dog. It was so beat up, nobody wanted to look at it. So my family adopted the dog, even though it was missing a ear, and couldn't open it's left eye. Sad. It made me want to adopt every animal there.

Most people think they can save animals by adopting 30+ pets. Do you know what happens to them? They are hurting the animal, providing them with a non-safe environment. And that kind of stuff don't fly. Your house is smelly, you are sick every day, throwing up. And those cats/dogs are digging there grave.

^This means I fully support euthanasia in shelters, however...

I hate Free Bullet. Putting down a horse because it isn't worthy? Imagine someone walking up to you and putting a bullet threw your head because they don't find you 'worthy' of their time. Although owners may put down a horse due to injury. Injury can be fixed, I've seen it.
 
My dad's a vet, but I'munna see if I can view both sides of this. I mean, I support it because it is the right thing to do. If something is suffering, you don't let it suffer. Vets aren't stupid, they'll only euthanize an animal if there is positively no way it can be saved. Free bullet, as you call it, is on a different level. I can't say I support it, but I would like to point out that a non-race-worthy horse is not going to have a good life if it lives. Horses aren't like humans; they can't just sit with a cast and wait for it to heal. I also want to point out that horse injuries (in terms of broken-bones and what-not) are much harder to heal, due to horses' size and stuff (IDK what the specifics are, but you know). Most people who don't support euthanasia in general are people who have lost a pet to it and are still upset. I say this trying not to be mean, I've lost pets to being put to sleep before, but if a pet is put down, it was a good thing. It would be a lot happier not suffering.
 
My dad's a vet, but I'munna see if I can view both sides of this. I mean, I support it because it is the right thing to do. If something is suffering, you don't let it suffer. Vets aren't stupid, they'll only euthanize an animal if there is positively no way it can be saved. Free bullet, as you call it, is on a different level. I can't say I support it, but I would like to point out that a non-race-worthy horse is not going to have a good life if it lives. Horses aren't like humans; they can't just sit with a cast and wait for it to heal. I also want to point out that horse injuries (in terms of broken-bones and what-not) are much harder to heal, due to horses' size and stuff (IDK what the specifics are, but you know). Most people who don't support euthanasia in general are people who have lost a pet to it and are still upset. I say this trying not to be mean, I've lost pets to being put to sleep before, but if a pet is put down, it was a good thing. It would be a lot happier not suffering.
I forgot where I saw this [I think it was ABC]. There was a horse, it lost 2 of it's legs. The gave it mechanical legs, taught the horse how to live with them. And I'm pretty sure the horse gave birth. Very touching.
 
But most farmers/jockeys that aren't big names can't afford to adorn their pal with these legs... so they have no choice but to put it down.
 
But most farmers/jockeys that aren't big names can't afford to adorn their pal with these legs... so they have no choice but to put it down.
Nice point :eek:

Farms really don't use horses anymore, as most horses were used for transportation, and cars do it better. Cars have kinda destroyed forced horse labor. Most horses you see today are for show and recreation. Really, most Jockeys don't own the horse. Just trains it and races it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/03/kentucky-derby-horse-eigh_n_99987.html
^really sad.
 
I've always been at odds with this subject. As an animal lover and pet owner, I despise the fact that euthansia is used to put down pets in animal shelters just because they're supposedly too old or just haven't been adopted in a certain amount of time. Yet, when it comes to truly sickly or even dying animals, then it's perfectly acceptable to use it. Still, I believe that animals have just as much right to live as people do and euthansia should never be allowed at all...
 
I think an animal is allowed to live in a Shelter for 1 month [correct me if I'm wrong?]
Wikipedia said:
Animal euthanasia (from the Greek meaning "good death") is the act of putting to death painlessly or allowing to die, as by withholding extreme medical measures, an animal suffering from an incurable, esp. a painful, disease or condition.[1] Euthanasia methods are designed to cause minimal pain and distress. Euthanasia is distinct from animal slaughter and pest control, which are performed for purposes other than an act of mercy, although in some cases the killing procedure is the same.

In domesticated animals, this process is commonly referred to by euphemisms such as "lay down", "put down", "put to sleep", "destroyed", or "put out of its/his/her misery".

Intravenous anesthetic
Pets are almost always euthanased by intravenous injection, typically a very high dose of pentobarbital or sodium thiopental. Unconsciousness, respiratory then cardiac arrest follow rapidly, usually within 30 seconds.[2] Observers generally describe it as a quick and peaceful death.

Some veterinarians perform a two-stage process: An initial injection that simply renders the pet unconscious and a second shot that "puts it to sleep".[citation needed] This allows the owner the chance to say goodbye to a live pet without their emotions stressing the pet. It also greatly mitigates any tendency toward spasm and other involuntary movement (i.e., the pet's facial or eye movement) which would tend to increase the emotional upset that the pet's owner is already experiencing.

For large animals, the volumes of barbiturates required are considered by some to be impractical, although this is standard practice in the US.[3] In some cases, shooting (see below) is considered appropriate. Alternatively, for horses and cattle, other drugs may be available. Some specially formulated combination products are available, such as Somulose (Secobarbital/Cinchocaine) and Tributame (Embutramide/Chloroquine/Lidocaine), which cause deep unconsciousness and cardiac arrest independently, with a lower volume of injection, thus making the process faster, safer, and more effective.

Occasionally, a horse injected with these mixtures may display apparent seizure activity before death. This may be due to premature cardiac arrest. However, if normal precautions (e.g., sedation with detomidine) are taken, this is rarely a problem.[4] Anecdotal reports that long term use of phenylbutazone increase the risk of this reaction are unverified.

Stray animals are sometimes put to sleep by animal shelters that put unclaimed and unadopted dogs and cats in a sealed chamber and pump the air out. The animal dies of anoxia.
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Shooting

This can be an appropriate means of euthanasia for large animals (e.g., horses, cattle, deer) if performed properly. This may be by means of:

Free bullet
Traditionally used for shooting horses. The horse is shot in the forehead, with the bullet directed down the spine through the medulla oblongata, resulting in instant death.[7] The risks are minimal if carried out by skilled personnel in a suitable location.
Captive bolt
Commonly used for cattle and other livestock. The bolt is fired through the forehead causing massive disruption of the cerebral cortex. In cattle this stuns the animal, though if left for a prolonged period it will die from cerebral oedema, though this is a huge welfare problem. Death should be rapidly brought about by pithing or exsanguination. Horses are killed outright by the captive bolt, making pithing or exsanguination unnecessary.[8]
Just posting this to show people how vets usually put down pets. Some methods [like Intravenous anesthetic] I approve of. Shooting animal, however, is not "good death".

Edit; This is why they put down animals
Terminal illness – e.g. cancer

Rabies

Behavioral problems (that usually cannot be corrected) – e.g. aggression

Illness or broken limbs that would cause suffering for the animal to live with, or when the owner cannot afford (or has a moral objection to) treatment.

Old age – Deterioration to loss of major bodily functions. Severe impairment of the quality of life.

Lack of homes - many shelters receive considerably more surrendered animals than they are capable of re-housing.
This is to help the discussion. If an animal is put down for those reasons, I support. If it is put down for not being race worthy, forget it >:[
 
I think euthanasia is perfectly ok for already-dying pets, but not at shelters for space or because of age. I volunteer at a shelter that doesn't euthanize for such reasons.
 
The problem with not euthanising animals in shelters is that then they will have to house more of the unwanted dogs and have less room for new strays that are brought in. Then the dogs that might have a chance at getting a home are left on the streets to try to survive there and the unwanted dogs in the shelter will just live their lives in a small cage. But by euthanising these dogs it give the other dogs a chance at least. I guess it would be called the lesser of two evils.

Free Bullet is wrong. They could easily give the horse to a family not interested in racing.
However I have heard that if a horse breaks its leg it cant heal and has to put down. In that case I'd say its acceptable.
 
I think its wrong, but its nessesary for dying animals becuz u dont want to see dead animals everywhere
 
This is what happens to animals when they are euthanized:
Many pet owners choose to have their pet cremated or buried after they are euthanized, and there are pet funeral homes that specialize in animal burial or cremation.

In some instances, animals euthanized at shelters or animal control agencies have been sent to meat rendering facilities, to be processed for use in cosmetics, fertilizer, gelatin, poultry feed, pharmaceuticals and pet food. The amount of phenobarbital in dog food may have caused dogs to become less responsive to the drug when being euthanized, though a 2002 FDA study found no dog or cat DNA in the foods they tested. They theorized that the drug found its way into dog food from euthanized cattle and horses. They also stated that the level of the drug found in the food was safe.
The bold text freaks me out @.@. There using the dead animals for food? I can understand using it for fertilizer, but putting them in... pet food. Our dogs are eating another dog? Cannibalistic/weird much. Also using them in cosmetics is REALLY messed up.
 
i dont support the time limit for pets in shelters unless the animal is in pain. i think that it would be the right thing to do if an animal were in so much pain. but i dont like this: somebody's healthy pet gets loose. animal control finds the cat/dog quickly and takes it to the adoption center. for some reason the loving owners of the pet cant get to animal control and the healty pet is euthanized. if his happened to me i would be pissed off. if an animal is is pain it means that it does not have a loving owner and deserves to be put out of its misery, but if it is fine, it should be left to live.
and the free bullet=cruel, how would you like it if you were shot because you couldnt do your job? the animal should be put up fro adoption and/or euthanized if its in that much pain. and lets not forget that about the overpopulation of animals, so we should NEVER return said pet to the streets unless it is given to somebody.
 
i don't support the time limit for pets in shelters unless the animal is in pain. i think that it would be the right thing to do if an animal were in so much pain. but i don't like this: somebody's healthy pet gets loose. animal control finds the cat/dog quickly and takes it to the adoption center. for some reason the loving owners of the pet cant get to animal control and the healty pet is euthanized. if his happened to me i would be maded off. if an animal is is pain it means that it does not have a loving owner and deserves to be put out of its misery, but if it is fine, it should be left to live. and the free bullet=cruel, how would you like it if you were shot because you couldnt do your job? the animal should be put up fro adoption and/or euthanized if its in that much pain. and lets not forget that about the overpopulation of animals, so we should NEVER return said pet to the streets unless it is given to somebody.
Yes, but we can't keep the animal in the shelter forever. Space, space, and space. It's kinda like Hoarding Disorder. If you don't realize it to soon, it's gonna lead to more problems and it's gonna take a lot of money to fix.

I've heard of No-kill Shelters. Don't get how they work :/
 
Well DarkLucario the no-kill-for-space shelter near me doesn't take in strays etc because they have limited space but whenever there is space they go to a certain pound and pick out the animals closest to their death-time and bring them to the shelter. What's nice is that rather than cages the animals have condos to stay in which keeps them happier. But one thing my mom said that's true is that you could build those for some people to sleep in considering some people in parts of the world simply get a shelf to sleep on...

Also the bold part in your other post just makes me sick...
 
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