Pokemon Ancient Man-made Pokemon

AtmosphericThunder

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There are 4 (four) Pokemon that are confirmed to have been created in ancient times:

Baltoy and Claydol:
"Many Pokédex entries of Claydol state that it and its pre-evolution, Baltoy, were originally clay figures created by ancient people. The figures came to life after being exposed to mystical rays."
Source: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Artificial_Pok%C3%A9mon

Golett and Golurk:
"Golett and Golurk were apparently created by an ancient civilization to protect people and Pokémon alike."
Source: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Artificial_Pok%C3%A9mon

Did the creation of Baltoy and Claydol in ancient Hoenn inspire people in ancient Unova to create Golett and Golurk? Is this merely a case of coincidence?

It's likely that these Pokemon appeared exclusively in the regions in which they were created (Baltoy/Claydol in Hoenn, Bronzor/Bronzong, and Golett/Golurk in Unova) until people started traveling to other regions and bringing those Pokemon with them (which was probably much later on), so my above theories of one Pokemon line's creation inspiring the other line's creation seems unlikely and pure coincidence seems to be the strongest answer thus far, unless there is further information on this matter that I have not been made aware of.

Added Later:

There are 2 (two) Pokemon that are unconfirmed (but are highly likely) to have been created by humans in ancient times:

Bronzor and Bronzong:
Bronzor and Bronzong are said to be man-made Pokemon because of correlations between them and ancient Asian myths surrounding mirrors and bells that supposedly had mystical powers.

Source: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Bronzor_and_Bronzong


What does Pokebeach think about these six Pokemon?
 
RE: Ancient, Man-made Pokemon

Plenty of dex entries sound like they are made up on spot tho.
 
RE: Ancient, Man-made Pokemon

AtmosphericThunder said:
Mitja said:
Plenty of dex entries sound like they are made up on spot tho.

Made-up on the spot or not, they are the only official sources we can use, that I know of.

Apart from the interactions with them..

But yes you got a point.


I like these kind of pokemon (along with other weird/abstract/inanimate based) and hope we get more interesting fellas like them :B

Wouldn't Bronzong count too as potentially man made in ancient times?
 
RE: Ancient, Man-made Pokemon

Well, the Regi trio yes, but Bronzong no. It doesn't say anything really about Bronzong's creation. Another thing I noticed is that the ancient man made Pokemon all seem to be linked with clay - looking skin (outside the Regi trio), it's not that important, but it was just something I noticed.
 
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Actually, if this origin story has any merit, we can infer they are man-made Pokemon. Bronzong and Bronzor.

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Bronzor_and_Bronzong

It also explains their typing if you think of it. (Although Ghost type would of been appropriate in place of Psychic)
 
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Equinox said:
Well, the Regi trio yes, but Bronzong no. It doesn't say anything really about Bronzong's creation.

Are Regice, Regirock, and Registeel confirmed to be man-made?

Equinox said:
Another thing I noticed is that the ancient man made Pokemon all seem to be linked with clay - looking skin (outside the Regi trio), it's not that important, but it was just something I noticed.

The 'clay looks' of Baltoy, Claydol, Golett, and Golurk (aside from Claydol's name clearly implying it is made of clay) are very appropriate for the Ground-type Pokemon since they were made from things like clay, mud, and other earthy substances and then were likely hardened by heating them.

Ysmir posted about Bronzor and Bronzong, partially confirming that they at least have ancient, real-world inspiration:

Ysmir said:
Actually, if this origin story has any merit, we can infer they are man-made Pokemon. Bronzong and Bronzor.

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Bronzor_and_Bronzong

It also explains their typing if you think of it. (Although Ghost type would of been appropriate in place of Psychic)

It seems that you are correct! The bell in the picture in that link you posted looks almost exactly like a Bronzong! This leads me to be nearly certain that Bronzor and Bronzong are man-made Pokemon as well.

I wonder if GameFreak will add in more Pokemon to X and Y that were made by humans in ancient times.
 
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AtmosphericThunder said:
Are Regice, Regirock, and Registeel confirmed to be man-made?

They're said to have been sealed away by people, but not created by them. In fact, one of Regigigas' entries is this:
It is believed to have shaped Regirock, Regice, and Registeel out of clay, ice, and magma.
Regigigas itself could possibly have been man-made, but there's no source I can find that hints at this. everything seems to imply it was an already-existing creature that people were terrified of.
 
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frezgle said:
AtmosphericThunder said:
Are Regice, Regirock, and Registeel confirmed to be man-made?

They're said to have been sealed away by people, but not created by them. In fact, one of Regigigas' entries is this:
It is believed to have shaped Regirock, Regice, and Registeel out of clay, ice, and magma.
Regigigas itself could possibly have been man-made, but there's no source I can find that hints at this. everything seems to imply it was an already-existing creature that people were terrified of.

I vaguely remembered something like that. Thank you for making that point!

I think it's worth mentioning that Regigigas is said to have moved the continents in the Pokemon world in ancient times. Modern people (and likely not even primitive people, or "cavemen") most likely wouldn't have been around for such events. Although, Regigigas appeared to struggle when attempting to stop a glacier in "Giratina and the Sky Warrior," even with the help of a large herd of Mamoswine. This may be because of Slow Start (its awful in-game ability that weakens it for a few turns before getting its normal strength back), but I'm not sure if that applies to the anime. Both Regigigas and Mamoswine are fairly slow but very powerful physical attackers in the Pokemon games, so I assume that they have a lot of physical strength in the anime.
 
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The legendary Pokemon canons are shaky at best across the various media, especially if you believe that your child/teenage character is the one writing the Dex entries (wouldn't really make sense to go out and collect Pokemon if the entries already existed, would it?) For all we know, the Pokemon world could be sort of stuck in a time period like the dark ages, where people thought certain animals were demonic and whatever.

Trying to make sense of all of this is giving me a headache...
 
RE: Ancient, Man-made Pokemon

frezgle said:
The legendary Pokemon canons are shaky at best across the various media, especially if you believe that your child/teenage character is the one writing the Dex entries (wouldn't really make sense to go out and collect Pokemon if the entries already existed, would it?) For all we know, the Pokemon world could be sort of stuck in a time period like the dark ages, where people thought certain animals were demonic and whatever.

Trying to make sense of all of this is giving me a headache...

I always wondered what why the Pokedex already knows a lot about a Pokemon the moment you discover them, and all it takes is to catch the Pokemon.

Why would a Pokemon Professor have trainers collect data that the Pokedex already knows?

That's a hole in the logic of the main handheld Pokemon versions.
 
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