The Cold, Grimm Future — Why Marnie’s Grimmsnarl ex is the Newest Meta Deck

Hello everyone! We’re just a few weeks away from the NAIC, a tournament that looks like it will snag the title for largest tournament ever outside of Japan and China. It is also the biggest tournament of the year for many players, and is the last chance to get those much-needed points to try to get into (or stay in) those coveted top spots for the World Championships invite.

Making things more fun is that the NAIC will be played in a new format, as the just-released Destined Rivals set will make its tournament debut. Destined Rivals continues the theme of Trainer’s Pokemon, adding to the mix Misty, Ethan, Cynthia, Marnie, Steven, and, of course, Team Rocket. In addition, there are a few strong new tech Pokemon, such as Shaymin, which gives us back a form of Bench Barrier. Over here in Japan though, the format with these cards isn’t all that different from the format currently being played without Destined Rivals in the rest of the world, and many of the decks that have done well in City Leagues and at Champions League Aichi weren’t actually new archetypes. Ethan’s Typhlosion, Rocket’s Mewtwo ex, Ethan’s Ho-oh ex, and Cynthia’s Garchomp ex have all seen some play, and while I have some optimism that there is potential in these decks (Ho-oh in particular), thus far none have been able to break out to become major threats. Instead, there’s been a lot of Raging Bolt ex, Dragapult ex, and Charizard ex — not exactly a big shakeup! There has been one exception, though. The one new archetype that has made an impact is Marnie’s Grimmsnarl ex, and that’s the deck I’m going to talk about in today’s article. Unlike the other new stuff, Marnie’s Grimmsnarl ex has done well, landing four of the Top 16 spots at Champions League Aichi, and it has seen play at a rate on par with the most popular decks in the format. Japan and North America aren’t quite one-to-one, but if there’s a deck from the new set that I would expect to see at the NAIC, it’s this one. Not simply because it has been popular, but because it is a strong archetype, one easily able to compete with the existing metagame, and I have a feeling a decent number of players will jump to it as their deck of choice once they test it out.

One of the interesting things about the Grimmsnarl deck is that it isn’t a “Marnie deck”; rather, it is an evolution of our current Froslass / Munkidori / Budew archetype. For those of you familiar with that deck, Marnie's Grimmsnarl ex may seem like a bit of an odd addition — after all, Froslass is a pretty slow-going deck, whereas Marnie's Grimmsnarl ex is explosive and aggressive. As it turns out, though, Marnie’s Grimmsnarl ex pairs perfectly with the multiple Munkidori strategy. Not only does it use the same type of Energy, so you don't have to try and awkwardly add some Darkness Energy into a deck that wouldn't otherwise play them, but it also powers itself up, so you don't ever have to decide between attaching to Munkidori and setting up your attacker. The spread damage from Shadow Bullet also naturally combos with the damage-moving effect of Adrena-Brain, so this deck has a ton of flexibility in how it places damage.

Once set up, the deck has damage output on par with that of Dragapult ex, but with the added flexibility of being able to put more damage onto the opponent’s Active Pokemon if needed — or spread a bit more damage if that’s a better move. This deck certainly doesn’t need to stick with its predecessor’s slow, grind-it-out style — but the thing is, it still can! As you’ll see in the list, the deck still has the same Pokemon core, including multiple Budew. So, if the match calls for Item disruption and a longer game plan, that is an option. The addition of Marnie’s Grimmsnarl ex doesn’t take away from the existing strategies built into the Froslass / Munkidori / Budew deck; rather, it adds to them in a way that makes the deck considerably more dangerous. In addition, thanks to some of the new Trainers, the deck is extremely consistent, so when playing it, you won’t have any trouble executing whichever strategy the situation calls for.


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Tired of saying "I told you so" again and again, especially when so many people insisted she's not just a TCharizard ex's needless reincarnation.
 
Picnic Basket might start seeing play now to counter the two big spread decks in town (one of which makes extensive use of Munkidori) and to disrupt Gardevoir players’ game plans.
 
Tired of saying "I told you so" again and again, especially when so many people insisted she's not just a TCharizard ex's needless reincarnation.
It plays completely differently to zard lmao. The only similarity is that it’s a self-accelerating stage 2
 
Grimmsnarl is completely in line with the last 10+ years of power level. Your wordy custom cards is where you are comfortable, and that's fine. No need to come in here to troll people who play the actual game.
 
Grimmsnarl is completely in line with the last 10+ years of power level.
With... B&W? Really?
Nobody's forcing people to angrily reply to my messages with things that are patently false and, as you can see, I am avoiding repeating the same discussion for the xth time.
But if you're worried about the few people left that care about the actual game, you would be more concerned with the fact this is the only discussion in a long time that that doesn't revolve around people not even having access to new cards.
 
Nobody's forcing people to angrily reply to my messages with things that are patently false and, as you can see, I am avoiding repeating the same discussion for the xth time.
Nobody here has said anything that is "patently false". They've disagreed with your opinion. There is a huge difference in those things. People here react angrily to you because you treat your opinions like some kind of objective fact and are smugly condescending to everyone else. If you actually tried to have a discussion, instead of just talking about how "right" you are all time, maybe we'd actually get somewhere more productive.

Marnie's Grimmsnarl isn't some overwhelmingly busted card, it's had a few good results at a few events. That's really it. Clearly you aren't avoiding the same discussion because you come into every thread pretending to be some kind of PTCG Nostradamus, rewalking the same tired opinions we've all had to hear over and over again that simply don't line up with what the rest of us see in reality. If M's Grimmsnarl was such a busted card it would be a tier 0 format with only this deck but it's not.

But if you're worried about the few people left that care about the actual game, you would be more concerned with the fact this is the only discussion in a long time that that doesn't revolve around people not even having access to new cards.
Yeah, if you ignore the constant articles involving deck profiles and all the discussion surrounding card viability on spoiler threads then this is the "only" discussion for a long time.
 
People here react angrily to you because you treat your opinions like some kind of objective fact and are smugly condescending to everyone else.
Keep in mind, you were the first to come into this thread to reply in a smarky & condescending way. Which begs the queston, why?
It's an interesting question with interesting answers, touching on how players are often unable, and in fact get angry when asked to consider viewpoints other than their own. But it's not a discussion worth having, because there is no outcome of it that's positive.
I don't respond snarkily to people unless they do so first. I don't comment much anyway, since I've lost interest in most of the game. I've realized most of topics I like to cover touch on systematic issues, something that people find hard to conceptualize, and therefore simply end with people talking about their personal perception.
I feel somewhat vindicated that Pocket - currently the second most-profitable app in the world - still has the majority of its players avoid the actual "gameplay" part, because it follows the same unappealing balance principles. That the amount of discussions here are gradually dwindling down, unless they touch upon scalping or collecting. That many Leagues I know of have issues inviting new players, and how the majority of these remaining players belong to a single hypercompetitive psychographic type. None of this makes me happy, but it's been an obvious outcome, inevitable regardless of how one wants to plug their ears.

So no, I am not planning on having any of these discussions again, and you are the one that chooses who you reply to.
 
I've realized most of topics I like to cover touch on systematic issues, something that people find hard to conceptualize
>redesigns entire base set to suit his own insane view of what card balance should be
>do the wave gyarados
>poison counters
>suggests a petition to TPCi to get it into ptcgl on account of how much better it is compared to modern card design
>“nobody understands me because my brain is so huge”

Ok buddy. I think grimmsnarl is average. inoffensive card design comparatively. Its fine if you disagree.
 
>redesigns entire base set to suit his own insane view of what card balance should be
>do the wave gyarados
>poison counters
>suggests a petition to TPCi to get it into ptcgl on account of how much better it is compared to modern card design
>“nobody understands me because my brain is so huge”

Ok buddy. I think grimmsnarl is average. inoffensive card design comparatively. Its fine if you disagree.
I literally told him that the issue wasn't his opinions - It was his attitude and he claimed that I "get angry when asked to consider viewpoints other than my own"

But hey, nobody was accusing him of reading comprehension.
 
suggests a petition to TPCi to get it into ptcgl on account of how much better it is compared to modern card design
I'll take "Actual Delusions of a Malfunctioning Mind" for $500, Bob.
It was never my goal to make anyone feel inferior or stupid. If you feel overwhelmed by these feelings, this is entirely on you.