Gyarados from ‘VMAX Rising!’

The first Gyarados of the Sword & Shield era has been revealed from VMAX Rising. The set will release in Japan on February 7th.

Gyarados – Water – HP180
Stage 1 – Evolves from Magikarp

[C][C][C] Wrack Down: 90 damage.

[W][W][C][C][C] Big Storm: 200 damage. Discard any Stadium card in play.

Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 4

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  1. xTITAN Training Aspirer
    xTITAN

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    even with frosmoth, it seems like way too much work for a 200 damage payoff
     
  2. The Rhyperior I am still Mr. Rhyperior
    The Rhyperior

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    • Gyarados - 200 for 5 is too much for these Pokemon with high HP nowadays. Not even enough to KO a frilin Zacian V because of that. Frosmoth plus Lady is too much but still. 3 Geodudes
     
  3. RHowford Aspiring Trainer
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    One attachment of triple acceleration energy and only two waters from frosmoth and you're swinging for 200. Could see niche play as a casual budget deck but I'd be surprised if anyone tries anything more with it.

    Overall, not my favourite but I'll give it a shot at a locals.
     
  4. Clam I like food
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    200 dmg for 5 energy... ok? even with frostmoth its gonna be a pain to setup as you would either need to play a lot of energy or just use lapras VMAX which would be a better option as its very bulky and will do 210 with 5 energys i just see no point in this card if water type has better options
     
  5. Yaginku Aspiring Trainer
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    Honestly, all of these still need to deal 100-200 more damage to be effective, lest Tag Teams or V-Pokemon will just Mallow&Lana, or even straight up outspeed them. I think something like +60 DMG Choice Band would be utterly ridiculous (and still not enough). Instead, we need a Stadium or Ability that blocks/punishes healing and allows normal Pokemon to win through chip damage.
     
  6. don()shinobi PokeBeach's Yu-Gi-Oh enthusiast. I guess.
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    I firmly believe that one day we will have viable Gyarados cards again.
    Long live the king, Stormfront Gyarados.
     
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  7. Wynter Griffing 49/500 CP
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    A powerhouse for a specific prerelease deck probably. HP is pretty nice for a one-prizer.
     
  8. AbyssalHand Surge Double Bellelba
    AbyssalHand

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    keldeo v is your best bet since pika isn't as rough of a matchup. sooner or later you lose pipstoise to chuchu and you're forced to send out lapras who is too slow to respond completely. before you know it you've been e-power full blitzed
     
  9. AbyssalHand Surge Double Bellelba
    AbyssalHand

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    and AOR gyarados the GOAT
     
  10. AbyssalHand Surge Double Bellelba
    AbyssalHand

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    yep, as dumb as it seems the game should introduce like 8 energy attacks that swing for 300 and do something super detrimental
     
  11. jamashawalker Ikouze!
    jamashawalker

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    [​IMG]

    Am I a joke to you??
     
  12. snoopy369 Aspiring Trainer
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    Basically, so that Galarian Sirfetch'd qualifies for cards that say "Galarian ... ", same as Galarian Perrserker.
     
  13. ForeverRanger91 Aspiring Trainer
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    Frosmoth and Twin Energy or TCE makes this very doable. As for DCE, it is too broken to be quite honest and Twin Energy is a nice balanced option.
     
  14. Volkner123 Better Pokemon trainer than Ash will ever be
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    I remember a time when a Pokémon with 180hp was considered to be crazy. I think they should have just stayed in the 180-240hp range
     
  15. NicoNoo Meta/budget player
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    Yeah this ain't gonna cut it pal, Frosmoth already has a 200 attacker in the form of Black Kyurem, requiring you to not use shitty Magikarps and only requiring a stadium card.
     
  16. steffenka Miss Vaanjie
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  17. Yaginku Aspiring Trainer
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    Interesting how they can "get away" with not printing Dragon cards, because nothing is weak to Dragon and Fairy no longer exists. It is a weird choice, though.
     
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  18. Clam I like food
    Clam

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    the issue with this card is that there are better non gx attackers that are probably weaker but are more veristile like volcanan not only does it do 110 fo 2 energys it also helps a lot with early game by getting energy on your side of the board (yes i know you need 4 energy in play to do 110) I get it, this is just a filler pokemon but still I want cool cards like Giratina (the one that could revive itself) and not a bland card with a gimmick thats still nothing intresting.
     
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  19. AngryBokoblin Guzzlord is fun
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    How is this not interesting?

    Honestly I can see a deck around this with excadrill and a lot of energy recyclers.
    Lysandre's trump card would be good
     
  20. silversalamence10 Top Hat Regulator
    silversalamence10

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    Hmm... are they low key trying to tell us that they’re planning on doing away with Dragon-types as well? I suppose we’ll find out when we get the first Goomy (or any other pure Dragon) card of the SwSh era.