Ruling Solid Rage Usability

Dark JC

The Dark Master
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If Solid Rage is attached to a Pokemon,
and that pokemon's attack says

"The defending pokemon is asleep" without doing any damage

Does it does 20 damage?

Help!
 
Of course not. Solid Rage, along with Dark energy and Strength Charm, only add extra damage when there is a base damage in the first place. If an attack does not do any damage you don't get a free +20 for nothing.
 
Edwin Bak, you're wrong. Solid Rage has the same principle as Darkness energy. It does "20 more damage" than the original base damage. If you have no base damage then it doesn't add any on.

Compendium said:
Q. The wording on Darkness Energy from the EX:Ruby/Sapphire expansion says, "if the Pokémon Darkness Energy is attached to attacks, the attack does 10 more damage to the Active Pokémon" Does this mean that you get to add +10 even if an attack does no damage at all to the Defending Pokémon (i.e. EX:Sandstorm Murkrow's "Surprise" attack)?

A. No, it still applies only if there was initial damage to add to. So in other words, you still have to do some damage in order to have "10 more" done. (Sep 18, 2003 PUI Rules Team)
Similarly, you HAVE to do damage in the 1st place to get the +20 damage from Solid Rage
 
The compodium also said that if you damage yourself it's increased by 20...
So if Dugtrio CG uses Double-edge, it'll do 80 to Defending and 30 to itself?
 
== SOLID RAGE (EX:Unseen Forces)

Q. Solid Rage says it "does 20 more damage to the Active Pokemon". Would it also increase self-damage done to the Attacker?
A. Yes, if the Attacking Pokemon damages itself, that is increased as well. (Oct 6, 2005 PUI Rules Team)

That is correct.
 
So if you have darks, and strength charms and solid rage, they do more damage to themselves if they would do any damage to them at all?
 
Solid Rage only adds damage when you're losing and the attack that you use does damage already.
 
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