I counted the dancing birds as seperate (because of different typings etc). I think that's the difference! Otherwise 81 indeed.
Discussion How Many New Pokémon Do You Think Will be in Sun & Moon?
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I counted the dancing birds as seperate (because of different typings etc). I think that's the difference! Otherwise 81 indeed.
Think so, although I also think it's kind of weird the little koala does not evolve.. And I just read somewhere that there were a couple of blank spaces in the dex.. Which would bring the total a bit higher.. Plus, there could be more Alolan forms.. Sigh, I guess it's still a bit shaky.
Thats what I was thinking they said not every sprite was in the demo and I too was confused Komala was unevolved.
I strongly believe there are more Pokemon to discover...
The reasons why:
"Apparently they scrubbed out every Pokemon past Hakamo-o and he's the 143rd new Pokemon according to one dataminer."
The reasons why:
- National dex Pokemon are nowhere to be found
- Exeggcute didn't appear in the dex leaks...
- People say there were empty dex entries
- The actual game is massive
- I think they tried to remove Pokemon but also left a lot in (maybe on purpose)
- Some Pokemon need to have evolutions.
- The lack of Legendary and Mythical Pokemon
- I'm missing the Dolphin Pokemon
- I'm Missing the Totem / Strange Souvenir Pokemon
- Some typings don't even have Gen 7 Pokemon
- The Chinese Riddler did have everything right and he said: Komala (1 evolution), Drampa (1 (pre)evolution), also Turtonator, Bruxish and Cutiefly should get one extra into they evolution lines.
- I also miss the rumored Yeti and Ghost (3) pokemon.
- and more of these
"Apparently they scrubbed out every Pokemon past Hakamo-o and he's the 143rd new Pokemon according to one dataminer."
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And here I was thinking about avoiding spoilers, when there wasn't that much to avoid as it turns out.
It's not just that there are fewer than 100 new ones that bother me, it's that
Oh well, I do like the quality if not the quantity. Hopefully the rest of the game is good.
It's not just that there are fewer than 100 new ones that bother me, it's that
20 of them are legendaries? 20??? That's like 1 out of every 4.
Gen 6 only had 3 legendaries at first, so even though it introduced fewer total pokemon, it felt like it introduced more than this, because its pokemon actually, y'know, populated the world and could breed and exist in multiples. Not to mention 8 of these are UBs, and we still don't know the deal with those. They have shinies and battle preview sprites, but are they actually pokemon? They feel even less like pokemon than legendaries usually feel.
Gen 6 only had 3 legendaries at first, so even though it introduced fewer total pokemon, it felt like it introduced more than this, because its pokemon actually, y'know, populated the world and could breed and exist in multiples. Not to mention 8 of these are UBs, and we still don't know the deal with those. They have shinies and battle preview sprites, but are they actually pokemon? They feel even less like pokemon than legendaries usually feel.
Oh well, I do like the quality if not the quantity. Hopefully the rest of the game is good.
I'm not sure how to phrase this so I'll borrow a line from bugs bunny and say that's all folks.
The empty spaces in the datamine belong to all the totem pokemon - there is a pair (regular & shiny) of blanks corresponding to each one we know already, plus a few more. e.g. Gumshoos has a pair of spaces beside it, as does Alolan Raticate, and so on. These blanks exist because these pokemon are not able to be used in battle, therefore they don't appear on the team preview screen - which is where all these sprites were pulled from.
At least from this we can figure out all the totem pokemon battles. I'll spoiler tag that in case you don't want to know these.
There are also a pair of blank in the middle of the Zygarde line. The assumption there, should be that these belong to Zy 1% and Zy 10%, as these two are missing. Assumedly this means that like an egg, even if they take up a party slot they are not usable in battle.
As for some of the other thoughts in thread here, I guess that might teach you not to put so much stock in theories, rumours and fake leaks. Some of them were close - for instance - thesnowman Yeti must be the Crabrawler evolution - a Yeti Crab (and I'd bet it'll be called Crabominable 
). The Dolphin could be the Narwhal Island Guardian. The strange souvenir just refers to Alola as a whole, and not any one pokemon - unless perhaps, all four of the guardians.
As for these two -
I hate to say it but that's your lot. Don't expect anything more or you will only be disappointed. It should be clear after the smaller XY dex, that Game Freak are looking to focus on quality rather than churning out quantity. We get a smaller amount of pokemon, but every one is brimming with personality. Compared to Gen V, where sure we were spoiled and got tons, but is that any better when half of them are completely forgettable?
The empty spaces in the datamine belong to all the totem pokemon - there is a pair (regular & shiny) of blanks corresponding to each one we know already, plus a few more. e.g. Gumshoos has a pair of spaces beside it, as does Alolan Raticate, and so on. These blanks exist because these pokemon are not able to be used in battle, therefore they don't appear on the team preview screen - which is where all these sprites were pulled from.
At least from this we can figure out all the totem pokemon battles. I'll spoiler tag that in case you don't want to know these.
Alolan Raticate
Gumshoos
Vikavolt
Lurantis
Salandit
Mimikyu (twice the blanks here, since Mimikyu comes with two distinct poses)
Kommo-o
Gumshoos
Vikavolt
Lurantis
Salandit
Mimikyu (twice the blanks here, since Mimikyu comes with two distinct poses)
Kommo-o
There are also a pair of blank in the middle of the Zygarde line. The assumption there, should be that these belong to Zy 1% and Zy 10%, as these two are missing. Assumedly this means that like an egg, even if they take up a party slot they are not usable in battle.
As for some of the other thoughts in thread here, I guess that might teach you not to put so much stock in theories, rumours and fake leaks. Some of them were close - for instance - the
). The Dolphin could be the Narwhal Island Guardian. The strange souvenir just refers to Alola as a whole, and not any one pokemon - unless perhaps, all four of the guardians.As for these two -
- National dex Pokemon are nowhere to be found
- Exeggcute didn't appear in the dex leaks...
- The lack of Legendary and Mythical Pokemon
I hate to say it but that's your lot. Don't expect anything more or you will only be disappointed. It should be clear after the smaller XY dex, that Game Freak are looking to focus on quality rather than churning out quantity. We get a smaller amount of pokemon, but every one is brimming with personality. Compared to Gen V, where sure we were spoiled and got tons, but is that any better when half of them are completely forgettable?
Well, we don't know if there are many of them, or only one of each. We're not sure, and we don't know what they are. All we know about them in general is that they have shiny variants, and are catch able. They're likely Pokemon, but whether or not they're Legends or not is yet to be answered. However, UBs are confirmed to have a lot to do with Alola's lore and the story the main character gets involved in, so the possibility of them being legendary isn't completely ruled out.
Well, there are 67 new Pokemon, 8 UBs, and 7 Legends, totaling up to 82 Pokemon. There are 18 Alolan forms. 82+18 is 100. Maybe that's why the Rotom-dex flashed the number 100 on its screen in the anime preview?
It appears to be just part of a cutscene. Notice there is no sign of the the totem "aura", like there is on the Gumshoos and Raticate we've seen.
The totem aura doesnt happen until battle. In the demo a large Hakamo-o is the totem pokemon and a similar cutscene happens where it towers over the player however the aura doesn't happen until the battle starts.
There was also a trailer featuring totem Lurantis where there was no aura again it was before the battle began.
There is a totem Wishiwashi. It has been seen in a couple of trailers now