Discussion Expanded Metagame Tier List

Kingta

Kingta

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12/06/2017

Tier 1.

Trevenant Break
Yveltal Maxie
Turbo Darkrai
Seismitoad (Tapu Lele - Garbotoxine Version)
Mega Ray (Exeggcute version)
Night March (Life Dew & Puzzle of time version)


Tier 1.5

Mega Mewtwo
Vespiqueen Vileplume
Seismitoad Bats
Accelgor Wobbuffet
Garbodor Tapu Lele (Trashalanche Versions)
Virizion Genesect (Max Elixir & G Scope Version)


Tier 2.

RaikouEels
Darkrai Giratina
Greninja Break
MGardevoir (Ray D.)
Vespiqueen Flareon
Keldeo Blastoise (Tapu Lele Update)
Landorus Bats
Vileplume Toolbox


Tier 2.5

Raimbow Road
Wailord
Donphan Wobbuffet
Primal Kyogre
Volcanion
Seismitoad Decidueye
Mew Toolbox


Tier 3

Primal Groudon
Lurantis Vileplume
Sceptile Virbank
Medicham
Zoroark Break
Lucario Landorus
Sableye Garbodor
Lapras Keldeo
Articuno Frost Prison


Tier 4

Machamp Landorus Virbank
Wobbuffet Bats
Gengar Trevenant Break
Vespiqueen Eeveelutions
Ninetales Drampa
MGardevoir (Brilliant Arrow)
MAlakazam
 
crystal_pidgeot said:
I'm pretty sure its just

Tier 1

Volcanion
Darkrai

Tier 2

Everything else
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Don't underestimate Yveltal, it has no counter. There are also a lot of decks that are worse and belong in tier 3 or 4.
Kingta said:
Trevenant Break
Yveltal Maxie
Turbo Darkrai
Seismitoad (Tapu Lele - Garbotoxine Version)
Mega Ray (Exeggcute version)
Night March (Life Dew & Puzzle of time version)
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Trev hasn't been good since Collinsville.
The last time Toad/Garb made a T32 or better placing was Nationals 2015.
M Ray is too Easy to stop with Hex, Parallel City, Silent lab, ect.
Night March is too easy to counter at this point. Also, play Dowsing Machine over Life Dew.

D/V is arguably a tier 1 deck, as is Groudon.

Kingta said:
Mega Mewtwo
Vespiqueen Vileplume
Seismitoad Bats
Accelgor Wobbuffet
Garbodor Tapu Lele (Trashalanche Versions)
Virizion Genesect (Max Elixir & G Scope Version)
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M Mewtwo has never been good in Expanded. Play Yveltal instead.
V/V/M is not that great. If you want to play Vespiquen, play Vees/Bees.
Toad/Bats can is arguably tier 1.
Wob/Gor should probably be pushed down to tier 3 because good and prepared players can beat it.
Trashalance needs to evolve. Archeops exists.
Vir/Gen has not been good since it rotated out of Standard.

Kingta said:
RaikouEels
Darkrai Giratina
Greninja Break
MGardevoir (Ray D.)
Vespiqueen Flareon
Keldeo Blastoise (Tapu Lele Update)
Landorus Bats
Vileplume Toolbox
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Raikou/ Eels needs an evolution, but it is still strong. Maybe push it down a tier, maybe only a half.
DarkTina should be pushed to Tier 1. The lock is really strong.
Greninja is a stage 3 pretty much. There is Archeops and you get outsped.
M Garde STS is a pretty good dark counter.
Vees/Bees needs an evolution, but it is still really strong. Probably push it down a half tier.
Archie's Stoise is too easy to beat with a T1 Ghetsis or Yveltal. Lele doesn't fix much; it only gives an extra attacker over Jirachi.
Landy/Bats died in rotation 2015 pretty much.
Plume Box has never made an Expanded finish.


Kingta said:
Raimbow Road
Wailord
Donphan Wobbuffet
Primal Kyogre
Volcanion
Seismitoad Decidueye
Mew Toolbox
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Rainbow Road is criminally underplayed. Push it down a half tier.
Wailord is too easy to play around
Donphan needs an evolution
Primal Kyogre needs too many energy and an Evolution w/ a link.
Volcanion is no joke. Push it up a tier and half.
Toad/Decidueye is like D/V but worse.
Mew Box does not exist.

Kingta said:
Primal Groudon
Lurantis Vileplume
Sceptile Virbank
Medicham
Zoroark Break
Lucario Landorus
Sableye Garbodor
Lapras Keldeo
Articuno Frost Prison
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Primal Groudon is really good.
Lurantis Plume should be pushed up a tier.
Sceptile Virbank has never seen a finish.
Medicham needs an evolution and it is still bad.
Zoroark needs a double evolution. It's no good.
Lucario/Landorous is a worse LandyBats
Sable/Garb is easy to beat if you know how to beat it.
Lapras/Keldeo is a worse Archie's Stoise.
Articuno PLS is a bad card.

Kingta said:
Machamp Landorus Virbank
Wobbuffet Bats
Gengar Trevenant Break
Vespiqueen Eeveelutions
Ninetales Drampa
MGardevoir (Brilliant Arrow)
MAlakazam
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Wob/Bats and Vees/Bees are the only good decks here. Which Ninetales and Drampa are you talking about?
 
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