Cinccino Variants
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also jumpluff with cinccino for a pokemon party
If I were to play some sort of Cinccino variant, I think I would play it with other Stage 1's or basic that could abuse DCE, or need little energy to function. Zoroark is an option, good counter to most Emboar variants, assuming you are playing Pluspower, my main problem with Zoroark is that it can't do anything special against Donphan, and neither can Cinccino, so you aren't getting much coverage out of it, it is good against RDL, I will give it that, but I think Cinccino already has that covered. Another decent contender that I would consider would be Yanmega Prime. It doesn't need another energy type, and since you only have Stage 1 lines, I feel that the deck could set up off of a T1 Judge, while significantly stalling its opponent. Yanmega is a little nicer than Zoroark against the Donphan match up, still not an ideal counter, but it has a harder time with Reshiboar if they can set up off your early game Judge. Oh! Something that I just thought of while writting this post! It might be worth testing Cinccino with Crobat Prime. Gives Donphan trouble, so if your Meta is Donphan heavy it could give you some great match ups, decent against Reshiboar (I think), and has some nice snipe capabilities. The one thing that could be a problem with this idea is consistency issues, you would have to have a great list for it to be consistent through a tourney with a large amount of rounds like Nats.
Those are the first ideas that came to my head. Whatever you end up playing, I would highly recommend adding Bouffalant, and if you need some type coverage, Reshiram and Zekrom techs could be useful just for Outrage damage. It may seem weird, but it can really help. Hope you got some ideas from this post.
Those are the first ideas that came to my head. Whatever you end up playing, I would highly recommend adding Bouffalant, and if you need some type coverage, Reshiram and Zekrom techs could be useful just for Outrage damage. It may seem weird, but it can really help. Hope you got some ideas from this post.
KingCino is best Cinccino variant against other metagame decks cause kingdra can put dmg counters with it's power which ignores donphan's body.
The other aka attacking kingdra is a must too to do something better against reshiram or donphan variants. CinPluff won't be any good. what metagame deck is weak against grass? none!
The other aka attacking kingdra is a must too to do something better against reshiram or donphan variants. CinPluff won't be any good. what metagame deck is weak against grass? none!
He means Water Arrow Kingdra.Zhaituki said:
Water Arrow Kingdra causes nice damages (and may hit 30 to any other opponent's Pokemon, like Mime Jr. or Cleffa) to Emboar, Reshiram and even Typlosion-themed decks. Prime itself, can help out with Spray Splashes and 1KO Donphans.
Cinccino is naturally fast and will deal more damage if you have more Pokemon on your bench, but it's very weak against Donphan, so some popular choices that go with Cinccino are, Jumpluff, Kingdra, Zoroark, and Yanmega.
^ I feel kingdra is the best play 
I am kind of wanting to build KingCino currently, finally traded for 2 UL kingdra (non-prime) to use in the deck! maybe a 2/2 split if prime/non prime kingdra! This way you can 1HKO donphan, and ANY fire pokemon in the format. Best of all after attacking with non-prime kingdra you must return energy to your hand so atleast if you get revenge KO'd you have picked up DCE attached
I am kind of wanting to build KingCino currently, finally traded for 2 UL kingdra (non-prime) to use in the deck! maybe a 2/2 split if prime/non prime kingdra! This way you can 1HKO donphan, and ANY fire pokemon in the format. Best of all after attacking with non-prime kingdra you must return energy to your hand so atleast if you get revenge KO'd you have picked up DCE attached
Vulpix Yolk, thank you for having the only sensible post in this thread... Don't listen to people who say Kingdra or Jumpluff are the best combos for it.
He basically covered two great options, the one that he missed is using it with Slowking HGSS and Weavile in order to lock your opponent while hitting for 100 each turn. It's an interesting variant that works surprisingly well. However, if you're looking for a great deck overall Cinccino isn't your best bet.
He basically covered two great options, the one that he missed is using it with Slowking HGSS and Weavile in order to lock your opponent while hitting for 100 each turn. It's an interesting variant that works surprisingly well. However, if you're looking for a great deck overall Cinccino isn't your best bet.
@ OU Pokemon. That's why Kingdra Water Arrow is needed for this, not only Prime. Myself I have enough using 3 Kingdra Primes and one Kingdra non-prime including Elm's. First version of deck that was released by Japanese people hadn't Elms.
@ win. For you this is already good metagame.
For everyone yes. Kingdra-Cinccino plays about 7 Water Energies and 4 DCEs and it still shoots damage well. (Yes. From own experiences playing Japanese metagame mixed with Finnish.)
@ win. For you this is already good metagame.
For everyone yes. Kingdra-Cinccino plays about 7 Water Energies and 4 DCEs and it still shoots damage well. (Yes. From own experiences playing Japanese metagame mixed with Finnish.)
Vulpix Yolk said:
I run it with Zoroark, Blissey Prime (since the energy cost isn't much and Blissey's healing can help A LOT) and Slowking HS. It works pretty snugly, but I feel that there's something missing. I will probably tech in a 2-2 Donphan or turn it into a Cinpluff.
If it's so targettable, why's it considered meta, then? It's my main deck and works fine.
Cinccino and a Defender or two can last at least two turns. Then, you just grab another one and repeat the process.
I've not played a Donphan, Throh or Machamp yet, so I haven't had any easy losses.
Cinccino and a Defender or two can last at least two turns. Then, you just grab another one and repeat the process.
I've not played a Donphan, Throh or Machamp yet, so I haven't had any easy losses.
I've had plenty of success running Cinccino with Zoroark and Yanmega. Against some of the best masters and seniors in the DFW area, I'm 9-2.
Reshiboar (2 Masters, 1 Senior)- 3-0 :Won by Zoroark's SpDark'd Foul Plays on Reshirams and RDLs
Mew/Yanmega/Muk/Crobat/Jirachi (Masters)- 1-1 :Won by Yanmega sniping babies and Mews
Kingccino (Masters)- 1-0 :Won on Cinccino's speed for T2 100
Magneboar (Masters)- 2-1 :Won on Tyrogue donk and Zoroark Foul Playing Lost Burn
Blastzel (Masters)- 1-0 :Won by Judging 4 Water energies and Foul Playing Hydro Launcher
Donphan (Seniors)- 1-0 :Won with Yanmega's SonicBoom, then followed by full-bench Do The Wave
I have yet to test more, but I will. Do those match-ups tell anything? I am a Senior, so it took some skill to beat a few of these Masters. rokman, Vhind, and lynchmob from the PokeGym played the Reshiboar, Magneboar and Kingccinno, rokman's friend played Blastzel, friends from the leagues I go to played the Mewbats, and Donphan was another friend of mine. I also beat an unlimited Salamence, so I could be 10-2.
~AoH
Reshiboar (2 Masters, 1 Senior)- 3-0 :Won by Zoroark's SpDark'd Foul Plays on Reshirams and RDLs
Mew/Yanmega/Muk/Crobat/Jirachi (Masters)- 1-1 :Won by Yanmega sniping babies and Mews
Kingccino (Masters)- 1-0 :Won on Cinccino's speed for T2 100
Magneboar (Masters)- 2-1 :Won on Tyrogue donk and Zoroark Foul Playing Lost Burn
Blastzel (Masters)- 1-0 :Won by Judging 4 Water energies and Foul Playing Hydro Launcher
Donphan (Seniors)- 1-0 :Won with Yanmega's SonicBoom, then followed by full-bench Do The Wave
I have yet to test more, but I will. Do those match-ups tell anything? I am a Senior, so it took some skill to beat a few of these Masters. rokman, Vhind, and lynchmob from the PokeGym played the Reshiboar, Magneboar and Kingccinno, rokman's friend played Blastzel, friends from the leagues I go to played the Mewbats, and Donphan was another friend of mine. I also beat an unlimited Salamence, so I could be 10-2.
~AoH