'World Down' and 'Legendary Heartbeat,' Japan's Summer Sets Introducing Amazing Rares!

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  1. Tytus Expanded Best Format
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    In expanded you could probably tech this into one of those amazing rare Ho-Oh engine decks. I don't think this card will be a deck on its own but it could find a niche in some decks. As far as getting your opponent to 6 or more cards like N will work in expanded along with stuff like the surprise box in standard.
     


  2. MasterGallade ThePokemonRhombus @ YouTube
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    Lugia not being a V or Amazing Rare is very disappointing to say the least :/
     
  3. FireLizard Dragon shipper
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    This Lugia blastes Unown HAND decks
     
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  4. GM DracLord Shadow of Death
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    His normal card already uses 3 different energy, making him amazing rare wouldn't see much special (cuz he would need the [P] energy based on the trend of the amazing rare and lugia is for other type.. But then they could actually made him [F][P][D] for the amazing rare as a warm up for Galarian Bird Trio
     
  5. Gameguard Aspiring Trainer
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    They need 6 or more cards in hand for lugia to work
     
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  6. AngryBokoblin Guzzlord is fun
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    Porygon z definitely
     
  7. TheRealBro.. Let's get drowzee
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    Pissed off? Not at all. These are some beautiful cards. Happy to chase them, instead of those ugly gx/vmax cards
     
  8. NicoNoo Meta/budget player
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    4 energy is loadable by Welder + Twin Energy. Reset Stamp puts them at 6 cards at the early game, and Surprise Box makes them regain the advantage. However, this deck's problem is the static damage output. 250 doesn't OHKO any V-Max Mon and Shrine of Punishment is rotating out. Powerful Colorless can help but it's an attachment for the turn and even with Welder you will fall short 1 attachment.

    Now, the interesting part is that Grass decks can use this alongside Rillaboom to diversify their weakness, and if Coalossal decks ever become any good, it works the same. Frosmoth can also load it but Black Kyurem does 220 damage with the only condition being having a stadium in play.
     
  9. Gamerdynasty4ever Aspiring Trainer
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    There’s a Vmax Banette?
     
  10. taigercub Aspiring Trainer
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    sorry I typed that confusingly I meant that lugia and banette are a good combo against Vmax, I probably should have had a comma.
     
  11. steffenka Miss Vaanjie
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  12. The Rhyperior I am still Mr. Rhyperior
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    • Dialga - better than Duraludon for Energy accel? I love that. 3-4 Geodudes
    • Hero's Medal - Its Island Challenge Amulet but only on VMAXs. It has the restriction that prevents KOing VMAXs... just like to Jirachi EX that leads to the amulet ban in Expanded. I love this. This negates the single prizes so that you can catch up to the game. 4 Geodudes
     
  13. Kaizaac Aspiring Trainer
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    Dialga’s an alternate Duraludon which is nice, and I’m loving that warriors medal is trial amulet for Vmaxs. Good stuff.
     
  14. P3DS UK VGC Regs Champ 2015
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    Hero medal is going to be big. But how big will depend on how much the 100 HP means. Most get put in range for a zacian KO, or eternatus KO, or a lugia KO... I don't think it will see more than 1 off in the lists. VMax survivability is the only reason they are so strong currently. However, vs 2 shot decks, like pika and Cinderace (those hitting around the 180/190 average), its a great card. And single prize attackers too... I just don't think it will be as good, especially when island challenge amulet wasn't as picked up.
     
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  15. FireLizard Dragon shipper
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    Dialga's basically CEC Kyogre but Metal.
     
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  16. Tytus Expanded Best Format
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    The Dialga is a very nice addition to metal decks allowing you to accelerate 2 energy for a colorless. It appears that TPCI learned from their island challenge amulet mistake and made this only for V max. Thats very nice but if you think about something like Snorlax V max still having 240 HP after this it gets kind of scary.
     
  17. Nyora A Cat
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    They kinda did, but it's not like Hero's Medal NOT having that clause would honestly do much. 100 HP VMAX? lol

    And anyways, it can just come down to sequencing. If I really did wanna KO my own say Eternatus VMAX or whoever for whatever reason, I can just attach Hero's Medal then use like Switch while Spikemuth is in play and that'd bring it in range to be KO'd by Spikemuth/Hero's Medal. Something like that.
     
  18. Water Pokémon Master I like Pokemon more than you. :D
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  19. Tytus Expanded Best Format
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    This set looks awesome can't wait to see what some of the cards do. Seeing Xerneas as a psychic type makes me sad. Rip fairy.
     
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  20. Grass-Type Farm Owner Aspiring Trainer
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    One of the Supporters (Beauty?) is a draw 2 that can be used on the 1st turn for the player going 1st. Curious if we'll ever see other weak Supporters that can be used T1 going 1st.
     

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