RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
Masons aren't also exactly the "safest" roles to scoff at.
Masons aren't also exactly the "safest" roles to scoff at.
Finished Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Rockets Win
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RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
I feel like you guys are completely ignoring this. The only part of my evidence you've even looked at is that dns is a girl and a mason. Ok, well then. Of course there are a bunch of girls in Pokemon universe. Well, which one (a really girly one) has a motivation to be on Team Rocket. A sensational sister could easily have a similar motivation to Caroline.(Misty is dead) She could also be tired of Misty and her friends being in the spotlight. Who do you propose?
I don't know what you mean by this. Explain.
I feel like you guys are completely ignoring this. The only part of my evidence you've even looked at is that dns is a girl and a mason. Ok, well then. Of course there are a bunch of girls in Pokemon universe. Well, which one (a really girly one) has a motivation to be on Team Rocket. A sensational sister could easily have a similar motivation to Caroline.(Misty is dead) She could also be tired of Misty and her friends being in the spotlight. Who do you propose?
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I don't know what you mean by this. Explain.
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RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
Tally time!
Riskbreakers - 1
Cinesra - 2
Five votes needed to end the Day. You have 14.5 hours left before random.org decides your fate.
Tally time!
Riskbreakers - 1
Cinesra - 2
Five votes needed to end the Day. You have 14.5 hours left before random.org decides your fate.
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
We're now ignoring DNS because he's guaranteed a mason so we're like ignoring him. We're not even thinking of the odds that he could be a wolf/mason
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We're now ignoring DNS because he's guaranteed a mason so we're like ignoring him. We're not even thinking of the odds that he could be a wolf/mason
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
Cinesra has been throwing out accusations for the past couple of days. He seems so confident on who is a wolf and who isn't. Why would he be confident unless he knows who everyone is alignment wise? He accusing townies in hopes that us townies would believe what he says. I say he is acting too much like a wolf right now. I say
Vote: Cinesra
Cinesra has been throwing out accusations for the past couple of days. He seems so confident on who is a wolf and who isn't. Why would he be confident unless he knows who everyone is alignment wise? He accusing townies in hopes that us townies would believe what he says. I say he is acting too much like a wolf right now. I say
Vote: Cinesra
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
There's been wolf masons in almost quite a fair amount of games. It seems to me like you're being ignorant. All of you seem to disagree with my idea, but not one of you has even attempted to shoot it down. Why?
There's been wolf masons in almost quite a fair amount of games. It seems to me like you're being ignorant. All of you seem to disagree with my idea, but not one of you has even attempted to shoot it down. Why?
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
I'm sick and tired of Cinesra thinking he's the leader here. I guarantee you that your role does not search for alignments and makes you look funnier too.
Vote: Cinesra
I'm sick and tired of Cinesra thinking he's the leader here. I guarantee you that your role does not search for alignments and makes you look funnier too.
Vote: Cinesra
RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
While I do not agree with Safariblade's reasons in the slightest (it's not about usefulness; it's about finding a wolf), and although I would have much rather voted for one of the other 3 suspects, Cinesra's name hasn't totally been cleared.
There's reasoning for why, and reasoning for why he is not, and both seem to be equally valid.
And since it seems that there are already enough votes for him already,
Vote: Cinesra
...I'm sorry.
While I do not agree with Safariblade's reasons in the slightest (it's not about usefulness; it's about finding a wolf), and although I would have much rather voted for one of the other 3 suspects, Cinesra's name hasn't totally been cleared.
There's reasoning for why, and reasoning for why he is not, and both seem to be equally valid.
And since it seems that there are already enough votes for him already,
Vote: Cinesra
...I'm sorry.
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RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
Day 10
Tension was high. One wrong move could spell disaster, and everyone's lives hung in the balance. They all accused each other and eventually it was decided that Cinesra's ability to detect dangerous players was their strongest link to the wolves, and so Cinesra was lynched. Cinesra was:
Bad news, Sketchmore Industries...
Night 10 ends whenever I get the night information.
Day 10
Tension was high. One wrong move could spell disaster, and everyone's lives hung in the balance. They all accused each other and eventually it was decided that Cinesra's ability to detect dangerous players was their strongest link to the wolves, and so Cinesra was lynched. Cinesra was:
Bad news, Sketchmore Industries...
Night 10 ends whenever I get the night information.
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RE: Werewolf XII: Seven Days of Terror - Team Rocket's Revenge. Day 10 ends June 19, 2012, at 9 AM CST / 10 PM RST
Night 10
"Ready?" the lead Rocket asked her cronies.
"Yup," was the reply.
"Sho nuf," was another.
All three went out and murdered Teapot in his sleep. Teapot was:
"Time to get the rest of them! Go make Mama proud!" their leader squawked.
Eevee burst into HypnoticLuxray's room and cut his eyes out. HypnoticLuxray was:
DNA slipped into safariblade's room and pumped him full of hydrofluoric acid. safariblade was:
And finally, Riskbreakers, the leader of them all, burst into doublenikesocks's room and Malaysia'd him to death. doublenikesocks was:
The three Rockets cackled in a cliche manner. Victory, glorious victory, was theirs!
Werewolf XII ends with a Team Rocket victory! Here are the remaining roles:
Riskbreakers:
Eevee:
DNA:
And the two roles that you didn't get to see. First, Rusticks:
Meaty:
Postgame coming soon, but first, I am pleased to announce that Chillarmy will be hosting Werewolf XIII, with DNA as co-host. They'll post more details when they see fit.
Night 10
"Ready?" the lead Rocket asked her cronies.
"Yup," was the reply.
"Sho nuf," was another.
All three went out and murdered Teapot in his sleep. Teapot was:
"Time to get the rest of them! Go make Mama proud!" their leader squawked.
Eevee burst into HypnoticLuxray's room and cut his eyes out. HypnoticLuxray was:
DNA slipped into safariblade's room and pumped him full of hydrofluoric acid. safariblade was:
And finally, Riskbreakers, the leader of them all, burst into doublenikesocks's room and Malaysia'd him to death. doublenikesocks was:
The three Rockets cackled in a cliche manner. Victory, glorious victory, was theirs!
Werewolf XII ends with a Team Rocket victory! Here are the remaining roles:
Riskbreakers:
Eevee:
DNA:
And the two roles that you didn't get to see. First, Rusticks:
Meaty:
Postgame coming soon, but first, I am pleased to announce that Chillarmy will be hosting Werewolf XIII, with DNA as co-host. They'll post more details when they see fit.
Wolves rule!
GG wolves. Townies scrub it up again. 
you blipped up late teapot.. When you said you ran out of roles, i decided that taking you out would be safe lol
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Now that the game's over, I'd like to invite everyone back to comment on the game - the roles (which I'll get to in a minute), the rules, how I ran things, everything. Was it fun? What things did you like? More importantly, what things did you dislike? Your comments are important, because while Chillarmy and DNA will be co-hosting Werewolf 13, you'd better believe I'll be back in the driver's seat for Werewolf 14 (which is already in development). I hope to become the standard "PokeBeach Werewolf Host" kind of like z-man did early on. While playing the game is fun, running it gives me a lot of joy (and ensures I stay involved until its end!). I also want to erase the "last host dies first" thing that we seem to do, and having me run future games seems like a good way to start doing that.
Now, without further ado, here is the list of roles, who played that role, and my own comments:
1. Ash Langford-Ketchum (Ice Arceus)
I don't know if he did any communication with Dark Void, who played May. As you may remember, he suicided Day 4 when the Rockets took out Dark Void during Night 3. What no one knew, however, was that once Ash died, he would... change:
As many of you picked up on fairly early, Ash's rebirth saw him change factions with a new, dangerous ability that you all should be thankful he never made use of. Of course, whether he would have used it had he lived more than a Day will never be known. I'm pretty sure that had Ice Arceus accepted Rose's offer, there would have been a random lynch on that Day, which could have gone either way.
2. May Langford-Ketchum (Dark Void)
I think Dark Void played this well enough. His clearing of ESP early on made him a prime target for Teal, but Teal didn't pick up on it until a couple Nights later. As I said, I don't know if he and IA collaborated at all outside the game.
3. Brock Harrison (King Arceus -> ESP)
Of course, I learned after the fact that de was actually dead wrong about his assessment. So while it's admirable that de took the high road and came to me, what he should have done was tried to play it off on the town and get his target lynched.
That said, I'm kinda miffed that this role got revealed, because it all but ensured no one would dare try to lynch ESP.
4. James Whitmore (Puff)
Ah, Puff. It wasn't until Puff claimed he was a seer that I realized that...well what do you know, he kind of is one. That wasn't exactly my intent with this role, but I'm going to chalk it up to this being my first game.
Clearly, one of the biggest upsets in the game was when Puff nailed Chillarmy with The Secrets of Team Rocket on Night 0. The odds of him successfully picking out a Rocket on Night 0 were ~23%, so that was one heck of a guess! It never occurred to me that Puff could use Into My Own Hands to kill Chillarmy, but it was actually a smart use of his role. Considering that Puff got lynched pretty early on, it's a good thing that he guessed right.
Not only was this a blow early on to Team Rocket, but killing off Chillarmy in particular ruined like 2 other roles :x
5. Gary Oak (Rusticks)
Raise your hand if you even remember Rusticks playing. DNA used Night 1 to try out his No Loose Ends ability and obscure the Rocket kill from view. As you can see, Rusticks was supposed to be the true seer, so you guys really did lose him Night 1. (In one of my first ww games, I suffered the same fate, except I was lynched Day 2 instead).
I don't think anyone really cared that Rusticks died, since Puff was largely viewed as the seer, and Rusticks died so early on that his death was largely inconsequential.
Funnily enough, Rusticks used his Night 0 investigation on TDL, who for the second game in a row was not only scum, but had an ability that hid his true alignment. u mad, rusticks?
6. Tracey Sketchit (Zorua -> PokeChamp)
This is one role that I am kind of disappointed never saw any use. As the player list dwindled, the odds went up, but this role suffered from inactive players. Zorua never posted much of substance, and PokeChamp posted _once_ the whole time. Way to fail, guys. I am disappoint.
I'm definitely bringing this role back for Werewolf 14, so be on the lookout for it.
7. Caroline Langford (Teal)
One of my favorite roles, and Teal didn't waste any opportunities. Teapot only stopped him from targeting a player once, but Teal's explosion of death on Night 7 was definitely another key moment in the game, especially since it hilariously resulted in Teal's death, too.
8. Vivian Joy (Argetlam)
Not much to say here. He was the first lynch and was inactive anyway. :/ Way to go killing off the doctor, though!
9. Christina Joy (Blah -> Blui129)
This role went through a lot of revision before I settled on the current effect. Blah bided his time before using this ability, and unfortunately messed up when using it (which is why I stressed to the Rockets that collaboration is key). I made Blah an offer to rectify his mistake, but at a price - silence for a Day and no vote. He declined, so the error stuck.
Blah went completely unnoticed throughout the game, (as did basically every Rocket, holy geez) and I am confident that if it weren't for Teal, he never would have been lynched.
10. Matt Frakenberger (Imakuni?)
Also known as The Role That Got Puff Lynched, this marks Hatman's only real good use of this ability. He only used it one other time throughout the game, and it served no real purpose. :/
I liked this idea from rb's werewolf game, so I stole it. I don't know if I'll be bringing this one back, though.
11. The Ghost of Max Langford (safariblade)
safariblade made almost no use of his Embargo ability, which is really sad because he lived for a very long time and his protections could have been very useful for the town. His second ability never got any use because he lived to the last Day. When I saw that safariblade received this role, I was kinda happy. I heard he was a good player, so I was sorta hoping he would get killed so he could provide insight to the town even when dead.
Of course, he didn't really do much of that when he _wasn't_ dead, so...
The reason I called the game and didn't give safariblade a chance to protect is because he squandered almost every chance to do so, especially during the last few Days when he was the only protective role left and the town really needed it. That is definitely not good town play and it shows he doesn't care about bringing his team to victory, and that's not cool.
12. Cassidy Arroyo (TDL)
I swear to god this was given to TDL randomly
With people clamoring pre-game for TDL's lynch on Day 1, Rusticks's Night 0 investigation result would have gone a long way to ensuring his survival. In fact, I think that if Rusticks had lived long enough to personally clear TDL based on his investigation result, that alone would have been enough to rocket Team Rocket to victory. But he didn't, and TDL got no air time out of his godfather ability.
Until he suicided, TDL played pretty well, I think.
13. Delia Ketchum (The Yoshi)
This role also had a lot of potential for chaos, but it was all wasted. Ice Arceus was only targeted once throughout the entire game, and that was when the Rockets went to kill him. The Yoshi allowed the role to pass, so Ash was killed (again). Neither of them knew the other player's role was, so it's not clear to me as to whether or not this was the best decision.
14. Butch Sahagian (Chillarmy)
Oh, Chillarmy, how you got trolled. Not only did this set the Rockets off to a bad start, but it made rb susceptible to lynching from the get-go. Sorry man, that is some serious bad luck you had on you. I hope you have as much fun hosting as I do.
15. Todd Snap (Teapot)
Teapot laid low for the entire game and out of the final eleven he is probably one of the people who posted the least. I don't know if he realized he could win alongside the Rockets; by the time Day 9 started they were in a very good position to win it all.
It really sucks that he died on the final Night - the Rockets snatched victory for him literally at the last possible moment.
16. Samuel Oak (Cinesra)
One of the only town power roles left at the end of the game, Cinesra actually _did_ send me a request almost every night, if not every night. He used his ability to claim corn bread was guaranteed town, but this is not always the case (half the Rockets couldn't kill; likewise, some Sketchmore players (ex. Puff) _could_). His hunch was right in corn bread's case, but I intentionally took away kill roles from the Rockets (they originally each had one, one-shot kill whereas the leader had the nightly one) just so this role wouldn't wind up as another seer.
17. Archie Steinfeldt (Deus: Nightmare Autarch)
DNA played a good game, and I'mkind of extremely disappointed in the town for not lynching him. DNA is obviously one of Pokebeach's better Werewolf players. Why on earth would the Rockets let him stay alive until Day 9, let alone half that long? When DNA got through Day 9 without being lynched, I knew that the town was done.
As far as the actual role is concerned, I'm very pleased with how it came out. I originally had this role obscure _all_ role PMs until his death, but decided that would heavily skew things in the Rockets' favor (they knew who they were killing). Aren't you guys glad I did it this way, too?
Also notice that his win condition specifically involved TDL's death, which ended up working out nicely. I don't know if TDL even knew.
18. Iris Felstaff (dmaster)
I guess in a game full of night actions, it's always going to be a disappointment when one of them dies early on. dmaster bit the dust Night 2, ironically on the first night he used one of his abilities (#3, on ESP). This role is especially disappointing to lose early just because of how versatile it is. Someone's gotta die in the beginning, though, so it's no big deal. Sorry dmaster, better luck next game :[
19. Paul Belauer (Matryoshka)
If Matryoshka hadn't gone and gotten himself modkilled, he would be sitting pretty at 18 or 19 players dead at the start of Day 9. Instead, he is forever a loser. See how important it is to stay active?
This was probably the least used role in the whole game - no one ever tried to lynch Matryoshka, and the seer died Night 1 so his alignment was never investigated either. What a waste :[
I had trouble deciding on what the survive limit should be. Living longer than 20/32 players puts Paul right at the end, and if all seven Rockets had survived the game would be over before then, making it impossible for him to win.
20. Weavile (Zyflair)
If Zyflair was ever trying to use Agility, he was doing it wrong the whole game. Only once did he vote first during the Day (and it didn't matter anyway because I think that that was a turbo-lynch Day). He fell one vote short for Spite during Day 6, which is truly a shame, because I'd been hoping all game I'd get to see Zyflair mute someone.
Oh well. He handled himself admirably despite being suspected as a Rocket and managed to avoid the lynch, living all the way to the end.
21. Platinum Berlitz (Glaceon)
At first, Glaceon thought his role sucked. What's so great about it? Innocent Child is a bit deeper than simply showing your role to everyone. First of all--and arguably most importantly--it confirms you as town, making you essentially lynchproof (note how no one went after ESP after his role was revealed). Town isn't going to lynch you because your existence helps them win. As your role has been publicly revealed, you make a safe night kill for scum (no chance of surprises), but consider that if the scum waste their night kill on you, the town's power roles are safe for another night. Even if you die, you still win if the town wins, so dying isn't really the end of the world.
In that respect, Glaceon happened to keep his ability a secret until the very end of the game, which is the best possible usage I could ask for out of this ability. :>
22. Jennifer Stone (oyeah1988 -> Vergere -> Meaty)
The main role this fulfills is called Lyncher. The whole point is to get their Lynchee lynched, or they lose. Alternate win conditions are not required, but I added it just to be nice.
Of course, Butch (Chillarmy) got murdered Night-freakin'-one, so this role devolved to someone who is confirmed town sharing that information with another player, who may or may not be town. Having Butch removed from the equation removed all risk from sharing information. UGLSKhgSLdgh:SLfgheso;gihwe49r8oui. Don't expect to see this back in WW14.
23. Daisy Bouvard (TheGuy)
Part 1 of the other mason group. I received questions from the other Sisters asking about speaking when TheGuy was cursed, so I imagine they talked to each other, which if true is great! :>
TheGuy was actually the only one to benefit from having his abilities removed, but he was never suspected as a lynch target and he was killed before the curse ended anyway. More bad planning by the Rockets...
24. Violet Bouvard (doublenikesocks)
Seems kinda powerful, but still very open to night kills, so I guess it's okay. I'm not that big a fan of mason groups. I don't know if I'll include any in my next game. Or, maybe, if I do, just stick to a single group of two.
25. Lily Bouvard (sillykyle)
Most people have _something_ that can be augmented further, so this was a neat role, especially since sillykyle had no idea who he was targeting. He targeted DNA once, but it powered up Shifty Eyes, not No Loose Ends (I'm not that mean).
26. Maxie Steinfeldt (HypnoticLuxray)
Scary ability on paper that lived far too long for it to make any sort of difference in the game's outcome. I probably won't bring this role back.
27. Lostelle Irrma (Porygon-X)
Fun fact: The Gossip Girl ability wasn't added until the very end of the design phase because I wanted every person in the game to feel they were important in the way the game is played.
Porygon-X was never suspected, but Teal actually targeted him pretty early on which put the town on a clock no matter what. Teal really couldn't have timed his kill any better (or worse, depending on who you ask, I suppose).
28. Lovrina Fairchild (Riskbreakers)
I liked the idea of a scum doctor, so I added it. It never mattered, so I might just not do it next game (or add more killing factions - now there's an idea!) Chillarmy's untimely death ruined Fabulous, which I think is quite amusing.
29. Lyra Stevens (Eevee)
As part of sending the nightly kill, I required the Rockets to tell me who would be performing the kill (due to the possibility of them killing off Nengeni at Night). When the Rockets realized they could circumvent But I'm Just a Kid by sending Eevee to do the night kill, they sent her almost every single Night afterwards.
To be honest, that was an oversight on my part, but again I will chalk it up to this being my first game.
This role exists because I felt like the scum were getting too powerful and needed some kind of way to weaken it without actually taking their abilities away. This seemed like a good way to do that, but I ended up failing.
30. Michael Todd (corn bread)
You guys don't know how well corn bread played this game. For his first game, he really did a lot better than you all gave him credit for, and I'll explain why.
corn bread treated his ability much like a seer would. Based on the ability name I returned (always the first, then second (if applicable), then third (if applicable), he would decide if the name sounded suspicious enough to warrant a second Investigation. On Night 0, he checked safariblade and learned Embargo. Night 1 he moved to DNA, and that's when he learned No Loose Ends.
He dropped a hint saying as much in this post. The use of DNA's ability name in his post is no accident. I think he was just trying too hard to keep his ability secret, and never formulated a case against DNA.
That was during Day 2, when Puff made his "brilliant observation" and Argetlam got lynched. During Night 2, who do you think corn bread Investigated?
That's right - he checked Puff. Of course, it returned Into My Own Hands, and corn bread knew at that moment that Puff wasn't a Rocket. Why? Because he remembered this post in which I used the phrase "into my own hands"--on purpose--so there would be no confusion over who had done the kill on Chillarmy. When Day 3 started and Puff was instantly voted to be lynched by Zorua, corn bread came straight to his defense because he knew Puff was innocent. He just did a bad job of convincing the town of it, even after he laid out his suspicions plain as day, but no one listened to him.
Next, there was this post in which corn bread gave up and left a message in case the Rockets realized what he knew (possibly based on learning No Loose Ends and calling DNA on it and also the soon-to-be lynch of Puff, where Into My Own Hands would be revealed) and corn bread wound up dead that Night. That didn't happen, but corn bread still had DNA pegged.
During Night 3, corn bread Investigated Cinesra (Respected). sillykyle powered him up, so he Investigated Cinesra again (Oak Sense). When Cinesra revealed that Nengeni had a killing role, corn bread wasted no time in backing Cinesra up because he knew Cinesra was town and wouldn't steer him wrong.
When DNA posted his thoughts about Nengeni _not_ being a wolf, corn bread automatically assumed DNA was a liar and was trying to protect his scum partner.
Later that Day, corn bread said this where he again cast suspicion on DNA, accusing him of scrambling Rusticks's role. DNA countered by telling the town about his other ability (Shifty Eyes), which threw everyone off DNA's scummy scent.
corn bread called him out as a liar since he hadn't yet learned about DNA's second ability, and flat out accused him of leaving "no loose ends." Of course, DNA told him to explain himself, and he couldn't really do that without revealing his role.
corn bread Investigated DNA again during Night 4, but Teapot roleblocked everyone, so it returned no results. He tried again on Night 5 and that's when he learned of DNA's second ability, but he never came forward with his investigation result, which I think is his biggest mistake. All he had to do was mention that his watcher role fit the description DNA gave as far as learning what people were targeted, leaving his no loose ends argument out the window.
Whew. Anyway, the point is that corn bread did really well for his first game. He used his role admirably and did his best to bring forth his knowledge without breaking the rules of the game. It's just impossible for you guys to have known any of that because you didn't have a behind-the-scenes look like I did. Well played, corn bread, and I hope to see you in future games.
31. Harley Rannells (Nengeni)
32. Andrew Mishik (Rock Wrecker)
LOL KRONAR
I forgot about this ability a few Nights, oops. Not like it mattered because a lot of abilities of players who were lynched were flavor specific or kills (or both), so they were not eligible for copying.
Rock Wrecker was modkilled anyway so whatever I don't care about his role
Next, I will go over the night actions for each night. You'll see player, their action, and their target (if applicable). Anyone not on the list either had no night role or did not submit an action for the night. People who submitted "no action" will be shown (except Night 0 because that was before I asked people to do that). The Rocket kill will show (target / killer).
Night 0
Night 1
Night 2
Night 3
Night 4
Night 5
Night 6
Night 7
Night 8
Night 9
Night 10
When I have more time I will be posting voting patterns but the game ended before I could finish this.
Now, without further ado, here is the list of roles, who played that role, and my own comments:
1. Ash Langford-Ketchum (Ice Arceus)
I don't know if he did any communication with Dark Void, who played May. As you may remember, he suicided Day 4 when the Rockets took out Dark Void during Night 3. What no one knew, however, was that once Ash died, he would... change:
As many of you picked up on fairly early, Ash's rebirth saw him change factions with a new, dangerous ability that you all should be thankful he never made use of. Of course, whether he would have used it had he lived more than a Day will never be known. I'm pretty sure that had Ice Arceus accepted Rose's offer, there would have been a random lynch on that Day, which could have gone either way.
I think Dark Void played this well enough. His clearing of ESP early on made him a prime target for Teal, but Teal didn't pick up on it until a couple Nights later. As I said, I don't know if he and IA collaborated at all outside the game.
I ended up having to replace de really early on, which was something I didn't want to do, but when he came to me admitting he had inadvertently learned the identity of one of the wolves, I had no choice but to take him out of the game - there was no way he could play town in good faith while knowing who one of the wolves was.
Of course, I learned after the fact that de was actually dead wrong about his assessment. So while it's admirable that de took the high road and came to me, what he should have done was tried to play it off on the town and get his target lynched.
That said, I'm kinda miffed that this role got revealed, because it all but ensured no one would dare try to lynch ESP.
Ah, Puff. It wasn't until Puff claimed he was a seer that I realized that...well what do you know, he kind of is one. That wasn't exactly my intent with this role, but I'm going to chalk it up to this being my first game.
Clearly, one of the biggest upsets in the game was when Puff nailed Chillarmy with The Secrets of Team Rocket on Night 0. The odds of him successfully picking out a Rocket on Night 0 were ~23%, so that was one heck of a guess! It never occurred to me that Puff could use Into My Own Hands to kill Chillarmy, but it was actually a smart use of his role. Considering that Puff got lynched pretty early on, it's a good thing that he guessed right.
Not only was this a blow early on to Team Rocket, but killing off Chillarmy in particular ruined like 2 other roles :x
Raise your hand if you even remember Rusticks playing. DNA used Night 1 to try out his No Loose Ends ability and obscure the Rocket kill from view. As you can see, Rusticks was supposed to be the true seer, so you guys really did lose him Night 1. (In one of my first ww games, I suffered the same fate, except I was lynched Day 2 instead).
I don't think anyone really cared that Rusticks died, since Puff was largely viewed as the seer, and Rusticks died so early on that his death was largely inconsequential.
Funnily enough, Rusticks used his Night 0 investigation on TDL, who for the second game in a row was not only scum, but had an ability that hid his true alignment. u mad, rusticks?
This is one role that I am kind of disappointed never saw any use. As the player list dwindled, the odds went up, but this role suffered from inactive players. Zorua never posted much of substance, and PokeChamp posted _once_ the whole time. Way to fail, guys. I am disappoint.
I'm definitely bringing this role back for Werewolf 14, so be on the lookout for it.
One of my favorite roles, and Teal didn't waste any opportunities. Teapot only stopped him from targeting a player once, but Teal's explosion of death on Night 7 was definitely another key moment in the game, especially since it hilariously resulted in Teal's death, too.
Not much to say here. He was the first lynch and was inactive anyway. :/ Way to go killing off the doctor, though!
This role went through a lot of revision before I settled on the current effect. Blah bided his time before using this ability, and unfortunately messed up when using it (which is why I stressed to the Rockets that collaboration is key). I made Blah an offer to rectify his mistake, but at a price - silence for a Day and no vote. He declined, so the error stuck.
Blah went completely unnoticed throughout the game, (as did basically every Rocket, holy geez) and I am confident that if it weren't for Teal, he never would have been lynched.
Also known as The Role That Got Puff Lynched, this marks Hatman's only real good use of this ability. He only used it one other time throughout the game, and it served no real purpose. :/
I liked this idea from rb's werewolf game, so I stole it. I don't know if I'll be bringing this one back, though.
safariblade made almost no use of his Embargo ability, which is really sad because he lived for a very long time and his protections could have been very useful for the town. His second ability never got any use because he lived to the last Day. When I saw that safariblade received this role, I was kinda happy. I heard he was a good player, so I was sorta hoping he would get killed so he could provide insight to the town even when dead.
Of course, he didn't really do much of that when he _wasn't_ dead, so...
The reason I called the game and didn't give safariblade a chance to protect is because he squandered almost every chance to do so, especially during the last few Days when he was the only protective role left and the town really needed it. That is definitely not good town play and it shows he doesn't care about bringing his team to victory, and that's not cool.
I swear to god this was given to TDL randomly
With people clamoring pre-game for TDL's lynch on Day 1, Rusticks's Night 0 investigation result would have gone a long way to ensuring his survival. In fact, I think that if Rusticks had lived long enough to personally clear TDL based on his investigation result, that alone would have been enough to rocket Team Rocket to victory. But he didn't, and TDL got no air time out of his godfather ability.
Until he suicided, TDL played pretty well, I think.
This role also had a lot of potential for chaos, but it was all wasted. Ice Arceus was only targeted once throughout the entire game, and that was when the Rockets went to kill him. The Yoshi allowed the role to pass, so Ash was killed (again). Neither of them knew the other player's role was, so it's not clear to me as to whether or not this was the best decision.
Oh, Chillarmy, how you got trolled. Not only did this set the Rockets off to a bad start, but it made rb susceptible to lynching from the get-go. Sorry man, that is some serious bad luck you had on you. I hope you have as much fun hosting as I do.
Teapot laid low for the entire game and out of the final eleven he is probably one of the people who posted the least. I don't know if he realized he could win alongside the Rockets; by the time Day 9 started they were in a very good position to win it all.
It really sucks that he died on the final Night - the Rockets snatched victory for him literally at the last possible moment.
One of the only town power roles left at the end of the game, Cinesra actually _did_ send me a request almost every night, if not every night. He used his ability to claim corn bread was guaranteed town, but this is not always the case (half the Rockets couldn't kill; likewise, some Sketchmore players (ex. Puff) _could_). His hunch was right in corn bread's case, but I intentionally took away kill roles from the Rockets (they originally each had one, one-shot kill whereas the leader had the nightly one) just so this role wouldn't wind up as another seer.
DNA played a good game, and I'm
As far as the actual role is concerned, I'm very pleased with how it came out. I originally had this role obscure _all_ role PMs until his death, but decided that would heavily skew things in the Rockets' favor (they knew who they were killing). Aren't you guys glad I did it this way, too?
Also notice that his win condition specifically involved TDL's death, which ended up working out nicely. I don't know if TDL even knew.
I guess in a game full of night actions, it's always going to be a disappointment when one of them dies early on. dmaster bit the dust Night 2, ironically on the first night he used one of his abilities (#3, on ESP). This role is especially disappointing to lose early just because of how versatile it is. Someone's gotta die in the beginning, though, so it's no big deal. Sorry dmaster, better luck next game :[
If Matryoshka hadn't gone and gotten himself modkilled, he would be sitting pretty at 18 or 19 players dead at the start of Day 9. Instead, he is forever a loser. See how important it is to stay active?
This was probably the least used role in the whole game - no one ever tried to lynch Matryoshka, and the seer died Night 1 so his alignment was never investigated either. What a waste :[
I had trouble deciding on what the survive limit should be. Living longer than 20/32 players puts Paul right at the end, and if all seven Rockets had survived the game would be over before then, making it impossible for him to win.
If Zyflair was ever trying to use Agility, he was doing it wrong the whole game. Only once did he vote first during the Day (and it didn't matter anyway because I think that that was a turbo-lynch Day). He fell one vote short for Spite during Day 6, which is truly a shame, because I'd been hoping all game I'd get to see Zyflair mute someone.
Oh well. He handled himself admirably despite being suspected as a Rocket and managed to avoid the lynch, living all the way to the end.
At first, Glaceon thought his role sucked. What's so great about it? Innocent Child is a bit deeper than simply showing your role to everyone. First of all--and arguably most importantly--it confirms you as town, making you essentially lynchproof (note how no one went after ESP after his role was revealed). Town isn't going to lynch you because your existence helps them win. As your role has been publicly revealed, you make a safe night kill for scum (no chance of surprises), but consider that if the scum waste their night kill on you, the town's power roles are safe for another night. Even if you die, you still win if the town wins, so dying isn't really the end of the world.
In that respect, Glaceon happened to keep his ability a secret until the very end of the game, which is the best possible usage I could ask for out of this ability. :>
The main role this fulfills is called Lyncher. The whole point is to get their Lynchee lynched, or they lose. Alternate win conditions are not required, but I added it just to be nice.
Of course, Butch (Chillarmy) got murdered Night-freakin'-one, so this role devolved to someone who is confirmed town sharing that information with another player, who may or may not be town. Having Butch removed from the equation removed all risk from sharing information. UGLSKhgSLdgh:SLfgheso;gihwe49r8oui. Don't expect to see this back in WW14.
Part 1 of the other mason group. I received questions from the other Sisters asking about speaking when TheGuy was cursed, so I imagine they talked to each other, which if true is great! :>
TheGuy was actually the only one to benefit from having his abilities removed, but he was never suspected as a lynch target and he was killed before the curse ended anyway. More bad planning by the Rockets...
Seems kinda powerful, but still very open to night kills, so I guess it's okay. I'm not that big a fan of mason groups. I don't know if I'll include any in my next game. Or, maybe, if I do, just stick to a single group of two.
Most people have _something_ that can be augmented further, so this was a neat role, especially since sillykyle had no idea who he was targeting. He targeted DNA once, but it powered up Shifty Eyes, not No Loose Ends (I'm not that mean).
Scary ability on paper that lived far too long for it to make any sort of difference in the game's outcome. I probably won't bring this role back.
Fun fact: The Gossip Girl ability wasn't added until the very end of the design phase because I wanted every person in the game to feel they were important in the way the game is played.
Porygon-X was never suspected, but Teal actually targeted him pretty early on which put the town on a clock no matter what. Teal really couldn't have timed his kill any better (or worse, depending on who you ask, I suppose).
I liked the idea of a scum doctor, so I added it. It never mattered, so I might just not do it next game (or add more killing factions - now there's an idea!) Chillarmy's untimely death ruined Fabulous, which I think is quite amusing.
As part of sending the nightly kill, I required the Rockets to tell me who would be performing the kill (due to the possibility of them killing off Nengeni at Night). When the Rockets realized they could circumvent But I'm Just a Kid by sending Eevee to do the night kill, they sent her almost every single Night afterwards.
To be honest, that was an oversight on my part, but again I will chalk it up to this being my first game.
This role exists because I felt like the scum were getting too powerful and needed some kind of way to weaken it without actually taking their abilities away. This seemed like a good way to do that, but I ended up failing.
You guys don't know how well corn bread played this game. For his first game, he really did a lot better than you all gave him credit for, and I'll explain why.
corn bread treated his ability much like a seer would. Based on the ability name I returned (always the first, then second (if applicable), then third (if applicable), he would decide if the name sounded suspicious enough to warrant a second Investigation. On Night 0, he checked safariblade and learned Embargo. Night 1 he moved to DNA, and that's when he learned No Loose Ends.
He dropped a hint saying as much in this post. The use of DNA's ability name in his post is no accident. I think he was just trying too hard to keep his ability secret, and never formulated a case against DNA.
That was during Day 2, when Puff made his "brilliant observation" and Argetlam got lynched. During Night 2, who do you think corn bread Investigated?
That's right - he checked Puff. Of course, it returned Into My Own Hands, and corn bread knew at that moment that Puff wasn't a Rocket. Why? Because he remembered this post in which I used the phrase "into my own hands"--on purpose--so there would be no confusion over who had done the kill on Chillarmy. When Day 3 started and Puff was instantly voted to be lynched by Zorua, corn bread came straight to his defense because he knew Puff was innocent. He just did a bad job of convincing the town of it, even after he laid out his suspicions plain as day, but no one listened to him.
Next, there was this post in which corn bread gave up and left a message in case the Rockets realized what he knew (possibly based on learning No Loose Ends and calling DNA on it and also the soon-to-be lynch of Puff, where Into My Own Hands would be revealed) and corn bread wound up dead that Night. That didn't happen, but corn bread still had DNA pegged.
During Night 3, corn bread Investigated Cinesra (Respected). sillykyle powered him up, so he Investigated Cinesra again (Oak Sense). When Cinesra revealed that Nengeni had a killing role, corn bread wasted no time in backing Cinesra up because he knew Cinesra was town and wouldn't steer him wrong.
When DNA posted his thoughts about Nengeni _not_ being a wolf, corn bread automatically assumed DNA was a liar and was trying to protect his scum partner.
Later that Day, corn bread said this where he again cast suspicion on DNA, accusing him of scrambling Rusticks's role. DNA countered by telling the town about his other ability (Shifty Eyes), which threw everyone off DNA's scummy scent.
corn bread called him out as a liar since he hadn't yet learned about DNA's second ability, and flat out accused him of leaving "no loose ends." Of course, DNA told him to explain himself, and he couldn't really do that without revealing his role.
corn bread Investigated DNA again during Night 4, but Teapot roleblocked everyone, so it returned no results. He tried again on Night 5 and that's when he learned of DNA's second ability, but he never came forward with his investigation result, which I think is his biggest mistake. All he had to do was mention that his watcher role fit the description DNA gave as far as learning what people were targeted, leaving his no loose ends argument out the window.
Whew. Anyway, the point is that corn bread did really well for his first game. He used his role admirably and did his best to bring forth his knowledge without breaking the rules of the game. It's just impossible for you guys to have known any of that because you didn't have a behind-the-scenes look like I did. Well played, corn bread, and I hope to see you in future games.
Stupid Nengeni for finding a loophole in the role's wording. Still, his job was to troll his killer and troll he did - he stopped Teal's murderous rampage and I think that was pretty lolworthy.
LOL KRONAR
I forgot about this ability a few Nights, oops. Not like it mattered because a lot of abilities of players who were lynched were flavor specific or kills (or both), so they were not eligible for copying.
Rock Wrecker was modkilled anyway so whatever I don't care about his role
Next, I will go over the night actions for each night. You'll see player, their action, and their target (if applicable). Anyone not on the list either had no night role or did not submit an action for the night. People who submitted "no action" will be shown (except Night 0 because that was before I asked people to do that). The Rocket kill will show (target / killer).
Night 0
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
DNA - Shifty Eyes (TDL)
Rusticks - Shuffle and Draw 5 (TDL)
corn bread - Investigate (safariblade)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (Nengeni)
Puff - The Secrets of Team Rocket (Chillarmy)
DNA - Shifty Eyes (TDL)
Rusticks - Shuffle and Draw 5 (TDL)
corn bread - Investigate (safariblade)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (Nengeni)
Puff - The Secrets of Team Rocket (Chillarmy)
Rusticks - Shuffle and Draw 5 (Zyflair)
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Teal - Curse of Airwick (Nengeni)
Blah - No Action
safariblade - No Action
oyeah - No Action
Cinesra - Oak Sense (Puff)
corn bread - Investigate (DNA)
Puff - Into My Own Hands (Chillarmy)
Puff - Secrets of Team Rocket (ESP)
ESP - No Action
Dark Void - No Action
sillykyle - No Action
Bippa - No Action
DNA - No Loose Ends
DNA - Shifty Eyes (TDL)
Imakuni? - Spy (Puff) Your secret win condition has been given to me. You must kill Argetlam and safariblade and you will win.
dmaster - No Action
Argetlam - Bright Shield (ESP)
TDL: Top Dog (Rusticks / Blah)
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Teal - Curse of Airwick (Nengeni)
Blah - No Action
safariblade - No Action
oyeah - No Action
Cinesra - Oak Sense (Puff)
corn bread - Investigate (DNA)
Puff - Into My Own Hands (Chillarmy)
Puff - Secrets of Team Rocket (ESP)
ESP - No Action
Dark Void - No Action
sillykyle - No Action
Bippa - No Action
DNA - No Loose Ends
DNA - Shifty Eyes (TDL)
Imakuni? - Spy (Puff) Your secret win condition has been given to me. You must kill Argetlam and safariblade and you will win.
dmaster - No Action
Argetlam - Bright Shield (ESP)
TDL: Top Dog (Rusticks / Blah)
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
safariblade - Embargo (Puff)
dmaster - Staying Out of Salem #3 (ESP)
Glaceon - No Action
corn bread - Investigate (Puff)
ESP - No Action
Puff - In Loving Memory
Riskbreakers - Cute Protection (DNA)
DNA - Shifty Eyes (ESP)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (safariblade)
Dark Void - I Am NOT Useless! (ESP)
Rock Wrecker - Bright Shield (DNA)
Teal - Curse of Airwick (Porygon-X)
Teapot - No Action
sillykyle - Sensual Motivation (DNA)
Blah - No Action
TDL: Top Dog (dmaster / Eevee)
safariblade - Embargo (Puff)
dmaster - Staying Out of Salem #3 (ESP)
Glaceon - No Action
corn bread - Investigate (Puff)
ESP - No Action
Puff - In Loving Memory
Riskbreakers - Cute Protection (DNA)
DNA - Shifty Eyes (ESP)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (safariblade)
Dark Void - I Am NOT Useless! (ESP)
Rock Wrecker - Bright Shield (DNA)
Teal - Curse of Airwick (Porygon-X)
Teapot - No Action
sillykyle - Sensual Motivation (DNA)
Blah - No Action
TDL: Top Dog (dmaster / Eevee)
corn bread - Investigate (Cinesra, Cinesra)
Teal - Curse of Airwick (Blah)
ESP - No Action
safariblade - Embargo (ESP)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (corn bread)
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Blah - Black Sword (safariblade, Dark Void, TheGuy)
Meaty - Open Up, It's the Police (ESP)
DNA - Shifty Eyes (DNA)
sillykyle - Sensual Motivation (corn bread)
Teapot: No Action
TDL: Top Dog (Dark Void / Eevee)
Teal - Curse of Airwick (Blah)
ESP - No Action
safariblade - Embargo (ESP)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (corn bread)
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Blah - Black Sword (safariblade, Dark Void, TheGuy)
Meaty - Open Up, It's the Police (ESP)
DNA - Shifty Eyes (DNA)
sillykyle - Sensual Motivation (corn bread)
Teapot: No Action
TDL: Top Dog (Dark Void / Eevee)
Note: Teapot blocked all roles this night so nothing happened
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Teal - Curse of Airwick (Glaceon)
Meaty - Open Up, It's the Police (Nengeni)
corn bread - Investigate (DNA)
ESP - No Action
Teapot - Frozen in Time
Imakuni? - Spy (corn bread)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (Rock Wrecker)
TDL: Top Dog (sillykyle / Imakuni?)
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Teal - Curse of Airwick (Glaceon)
Meaty - Open Up, It's the Police (Nengeni)
corn bread - Investigate (DNA)
ESP - No Action
Teapot - Frozen in Time
Imakuni? - Spy (corn bread)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (Rock Wrecker)
TDL: Top Dog (sillykyle / Imakuni?)
Note: I allowed Rock Wrecker to copy sillykyle's ability as an apology for forgetting about his role for like 3 nights.
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Deus: Nightmare Autarch - Shifty Eyes (corn bread, DNA)
corn bread - Investigate (DNA)
Teal - Curse of Airwick (ESP)
ESP - No Action
Rock Wrecker - Sensual Motivation (DNA)
Meaty - Open Up, It's the Police (doublenikesocks)
Imakuni? - Spy (corn bread)
Teapot - No Action
Cinesra - Oak Sense (Rock Wrecker)
Ice Arceus - No Action
Riskbreakers - Top Dog (TheGuy / Eevee)
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Deus: Nightmare Autarch - Shifty Eyes (corn bread, DNA)
corn bread - Investigate (DNA)
Teal - Curse of Airwick (ESP)
ESP - No Action
Rock Wrecker - Sensual Motivation (DNA)
Meaty - Open Up, It's the Police (doublenikesocks)
Imakuni? - Spy (corn bread)
Teapot - No Action
Cinesra - Oak Sense (Rock Wrecker)
Ice Arceus - No Action
Riskbreakers - Top Dog (TheGuy / Eevee)
Note: Teapot strikes again
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Teapot - Frozen in Time
ESP - No Action
Teal - Shambola
DNA - Shifty Eyes (DNA)
corn bread - Investigate (Zyflair)
Riskbreakers - Cute Protection (Eevee)
Meaty - Open Up, It's the Police (DNA)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (HypnoticLuxray)
Riskbreakers - Top Dog (Ice Arceus / Eevee)
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Teapot - Frozen in Time
ESP - No Action
Teal - Shambola
DNA - Shifty Eyes (DNA)
corn bread - Investigate (Zyflair)
Riskbreakers - Cute Protection (Eevee)
Meaty - Open Up, It's the Police (DNA)
Cinesra - Oak Sense (HypnoticLuxray)
Riskbreakers - Top Dog (Ice Arceus / Eevee)
Teapot - No Action
ESP - No Action
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Teal - Shambola
Cinesa - Oak Sense (HypnoticLuxray)
DNA - Shifty Eyes (DNA)
DNA - No Loose Ends
Riskbreakers: Top Dog (Meaty / Eevee)
ESP - No Action
Porygon-X - Gossip Girl
Teal - Shambola
Cinesa - Oak Sense (HypnoticLuxray)
DNA - Shifty Eyes (DNA)
DNA - No Loose Ends
Riskbreakers: Top Dog (Meaty / Eevee)
Note: Welp there go the power roles
Teapot - Frozen in Time
Riskbreakers - Cute Protection (DNA)
Riskbreakers - Top Dog (The Yoshi / Eevee)
Teapot - Frozen in Time
Riskbreakers - Cute Protection (DNA)
Riskbreakers - Top Dog (The Yoshi / Eevee)
DNA - Shifty Eyes (DNA)
safariblade - No Action
Cinesra - Oak Sense (DNA)
Riskbreakers - Top Dog (Glaceon / Eevee)
safariblade - No Action
Cinesra - Oak Sense (DNA)
Riskbreakers - Top Dog (Glaceon / Eevee)
Riskbreakers - Top Dog (Teapot / Eevee)
When I have more time I will be posting voting patterns but the game ended before I could finish this.
It was pretty fun PMJ. Good job. As for my night role, the reason I didn't use it was because I literally had no idea who was who so I didn't want to protect the wrong person.
And it stinks that I never got to use my ghost role haha.
And it stinks that I never got to use my ghost role haha.
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