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Thunder Dog & Sinister Space-Bird (Yveltal EX / M Manectric EX / Garbodor)

Dustybottomsrocks

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Pokemon:

  • 2 Yveltal
    2 Yveltal EX
    3 Manectric EX
    3 M Manectric EX
    2 Trubbish
    2 Garbodor
Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums:

  • 2 Battle Compressor
    2 Evosoda
    2 Max Potion
    3 Professor's Letter
    1 Scramble Switch
    2 Startling Megaphone
    2 Switch
    2 Ultra Ball
    2 VS Seeker
    2 Lysandre
    2 Lysandre's Trump Card
    1 Pokemon Fan Club
    3 Professor Juniper
    3 Skyla
    2 Shadow Circle
    2 Float Stone
    2 Manectric Spirit Link
    1 Muscle Band
Energy:

  • 4 Dark Energy
    5 Lightning Energy

Strategy:
I've been working on this deck since the new expansion, but finally decided to look online for help. I see other players have the same idea, but I didn't see any with Garbodor. The main idea behind the deck is circulation.

The basic strategy is use Yveltal and M Manectric EX's low cost attacks to accelerate energy by pulling it from your discard pile and attaching it to your benched pokemon. Cards like Battle Compressor, Max Potion and Ultra Ball and even Professor Juniper all allow you to make sure you keep plenty of basic energy cards in your discard pile. Yveltal EX then allows you to move that energy around with his Y Cyclone attack. Garbodor's garbotoxin makes sure Sigilyph, Suicune and Pyroar don't all get in your way and it also puts the breaks on decks with pokemon like Aromatisse, Emboar or Bronzong.

It's mostly the rest of the cards in the deck that I am having some difficulty editing. Shadow Circle removes any weakness from pokemon with dark energy attached to them, which is important going up against Fighting pokemon and other decks using M-Manectric Ex. VS Seeker and Lysandre's Trump Card keep this deck revolving like a self-charging battery. Drain the energy from your discard pile with your pokemon attacks then use Lysandre's Trump Card to shuffle the rest of the cards in your discard pile back into your deck. VS Seeker allows you to keep pulling Lysandre's Trump Card back from the dead so you can keep reusing it. Because you do end up circulating the deck at least once or twice each battle, some cards become redundant which is why I don't why to add 3 N's and more Ultra Balls like everyone always suggests. I think I need a Tool Retriever, and more Muscle Bands.

I see a lot of other players using more Support cards for drawing like N and Shauna, but I'm not a big fan of that route. One Support card per turn is a drag if you're relying on them to keep things moving. I prefer cards like Professor's Letter, Evosoda and Ultra Ball over most support cards, but I do feel I need to mix things up a bit. I'm too old school I think. I remember when I was 15, all the Support cards you needed were 4 Bills and 2 Professor Oaks. Battle Compressor and VS Seeker are just amazing together. Use BC to discard two basic energies for your pokemon to pull and a Professor Juniper to pull using VS Seeker. Using BC and VS Seeker to pull Juniper is a whole turn faster than using Skyla to pull Juniper for next turn.

Anyway, please help edit my deck or send any new ideas. I thought about using Darkrai Ex and Mr. Mime instead of Garbodor. M-Manectric Ex can OHKO Pyroar. Sigilyph and Suicune can be taken by Yveltal, so I get by if I can't keep a tool attached to Garbodor for his ability to work. I don't really need to worry too much about retreat cost though since I can just reattach that discarded energy with my next attack. Also, M-Manectric Ex has no retreat cost whatsoever. Mr. Mime would be even more defense against Landorus Ex who is a real threat to this deck. The trainers are where I feel li need the most help. Thanks in advance for anyone who posts.
 
I know you've probably heard this before, but I do strongly recommend more draw Supporters. Draw is how you cycle through your deck in the first place. It's how you get the cards that you need into your hand because they aren't just going to all end up in your hand by chance. Hand refreshers can be very nice once you've depleted your hand of resources.

-2 Yveltal; It seems like you have two different starters for Energy acceleration. I'd stick with Manectric since his attack is better.
-2 Lysandre's Trump Card; This is not as good of a card as it appears, but if you do insist on playing it, I'd recommend only one, since you can get it out of the discard pile with VS Seeker if you ever need to. Or you can get something else instead.
-2 Evosoda; This only searches out Garbodor while Ultra Ball can grab you any Pokemon out of your deck. It's a lot more versatile, and the discard requirement isn't really that big of a deal.
-1 Professor's Letter; Three is overkill. You'd get Energy in your hand easier with more draw anyway.

+3 N; Excellent shuffle draw Supporter, but if you don't want to play it for the draw, at least play it for the disruption. Late game, it really drops your opponent's hand size, meaning he has less resources to work with to take you out.
+2 Muscle Band; You need a lot more tools if you want to keep Garbotoxin activated. 3-3 Muscle Band / Float Stone is minimum I would say.
+1 Float Stone
+1 Ultra Ball

Hope these suggestions have been helpful!
 
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