Research Week #2: OU

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The Yoshi

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Hey everyone. I was browsing through Smogon one day, and I came across the Research Groups for a variety of the lower tiers. I actually thought it was pretty cool, to see how the users were able to analyze the Pokemon in their own way, and ladder to the top. I'd like to attempt to bring that kind of thing here, and explore all Pokemon in every tier. You never know, you might come across a Pokemon that you found a new love for (personally, I found a passion for Mandibuzz after trying it out for a Research Week in RU).

First off, we will be researching the Pokemon in OU for this second week.

Rules:

  • Be open-minded and try to use a Pokemon to a full extent whether you think it is terrible or not. Remember, the point of this is to see if the Pokemon do have a niche, and if they can perform well.
  • Don't be afraid to make an analysis for a Pokemon that has already been analyzed. There is more than one niche a Pokemon can fulfill.
  • Do not post here complaining that the Pokemon I chose were bad; just PM me some ideas for next time instead of complaining about them.

(these rules are the same as the ones on Smogon; well, not word for word, but you get the point)

So, without further ado, here are the Pokemon we will be researching for Week 2:

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Virizion | Stoutland | Roserade​

In order to participate in this Research Week, you must post in this thread or PM me with your Alt/username on PO/PS/whatever and the Pokemon you plan to use. You must also use at least one of the Pokemon that have been chosen for the week. It would be appreciated if you provided some input about your experiences with the Pokemon, and if you don't feel it, you can change it at any time. Any theorymon is accepted unless it's just foolish, but you should put it to some competitive use. Feel free to share any logs or sets you like here.

The objective of each week is to ladder as high as you can (on a competitive server like Pokebeach or Smogon) using one or more of the Pokemon chosen from the week. You must PM me or post here with a screenshot of proof that you laddered to the position you claim. The winner will be given the choice of the tier used for next week and is allowed to choose one Pokemon to research for the following week (but nothing like Politoed in OU ;D).

Again, if anyone has a problem with this, don't hesitate to PM me about what you think is wrong about the idea of the group. Please don't post here, though.

Current Participants:

Alt: [member]YoshiYoshi[/member]
Pokemon: Stoutland

Good luck!

P.S. As a reminder, you are using these Pokemon in OU, not in Ubers.
 
Suppose I'll begin.

Alt: YoshiYoshi
Pokemon: Stoutland

Somewhere I heard that Stoutland sucks in UU but is awesome in OU, so I suppose I'll have to try it out.
 
Well heres a set you can test:
Stoutland @ Normal Gem
Adamant/Jolly Nature
Ability: Sand Rush (If sand team) Intimidate otherwise
252 Atk 252 Spe 4 HP
Moves:
Retaliate
Last Resort (8 PP)
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Yep. 2 moves. However, it is 100% walled by Ghosts. Isn't it's dream world ability Scrappy? I don't remember. It's unreleased, anyways.

This could be very well in Sandstorm, pretty much a Choice Scarf without the choice.

I might be interested in testing. I'll think about it. I would be using PS.
 
Well, I used Stoutland, and man, that thing is great in OU. The problem I had was that I had poor prediction when I used a move, so I would be choice locked into Crunching a Terrakion, and then I was forced to either switch and sacrifice a member, or continue Crunching so it got boosts with Justified. It still works great nonetheless.
 
Stoutland requires Sand Rush to be useful in OU. Its currently the only legal Sand Rush Pokemon, which gives it a valid niche. The thing is, it needs a Choice Band to be effective, and relying on prediction is never fun.

Virizion is an incredibly underrated Pokemon in OU to be quite honest. The Swords Dance set rips all forms of rain stall apart and its one of the few stat uppers that doesn't care about Quagsire's Unaware. I've ran it with Heatran on a bulky offense team before, and the two have worked wonders at stopping most forms of weather. I think that's Virizion's main niche in this metagame: countering most forms of weather.

I've never used Roserade before, so I don't have too much to say about it. It seems really outclassed by Ferrothorn in the hazard laying department, and by Celebi at offense. But by virtue of its typing, its still effective at beating rain.
 
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