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Standard Post-Unbroken Bonds: Pikarom

Discussion in 'PTCG Deck Garage' started by TSA123, Mar 29, 2019.

  1. TSA123 i play pokeman
    TSA123

    Member

    This will be the list that I test going forward with Pikarom. Any opinions?
    Pokemon:
    3x Pikachu & Zekrom GX
    2x Zeraora GX
    2x Dedenne GX
    Dedenne-GX – Lightning – HP160
    Basic Pokemon

    Ability: Dede Change
    When you play this Pokemon from your hand to your Bench during your turn, you may discard your hand and draw 6 cards. You can only use 1 Dede Change Ability per turn.

    [L][C] Static Shock: 50 damage.

    [L][C] Zappy Return GX: 50 damage. Your opponent’s Active Pokemon is now Paralyzed. Return this Pokemon and all cards attached to it to your hand. (You can’t use more than 1 GX attack per game).

    When your Pokemon-GX is Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.

    Weakness: Fighting (x2)
    Resistance: Metal (-20)
    Retreat: 1
    1x Absol TEU
    1x Marshadow SLG
    1x Tapu Lele GX
    1x Zapdos TEU
    1x Tapu Koko (*)
    1x Tapu Koko GX

    Trainers:
    4x Lillie
    3x Cynthia
    3x Guzma
    3x Volkner
    1x Giovanni's Exile
    Gionvanni’s Exile – Trainer
    Supporter

    Choose up to 2 of your Benched Pokemon with no damage counters on them. Discard those Pokemon and all cards attached to them.

    You can play only 1 Supporter during your turn (before your attack).

    4x Ultra Ball
    4x Electropower
    4x Energy Switch
    3x Electromagnetic Radar
    Electromagnetic Radar – Trainer
    Item

    Discard 2 cards from your hand. If you do, search your deck for up to 2 in any combination of [L] Pokemon-GX or [L] Pokemon-EX, reveal them, and put them into your hand. Then, shuffle your deck.

    You may play as many Item cards as you like during your turn (before your attack).
    2x Choice Band
    2x Nest Ball

    1x Aether Paradise Conservation Area
    1x Thunder Mountain (*)

    Energy:
    12x Lightning Energy
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2019


  2. Sabaku Aspiring Trainer
    Sabaku

    Member

    • You only really need Electromagnetic Radar to get a pair of PikaRoms or a PikaRom and a Zeraora-GX on the board, so you only really need 2 Electromagnetic Radars.
    • The main reason why PikaRom decks are able to flow so well is because Jirachis let you hoard Switch cards and fish for Electropowers and Thunder Mountain. You take out Jirachi, and it makes landing any clean hits with Zapdos a lot harder, and you NEED that chip damage if you're going against opposing Tag Team decks like Greninja/Zoroark.
    • Your ideal situation is to constantly be attacking with Zapdos against small Pokemon decks, overwhelming with Full Blitz against regular GX decks, or landing chip damage with Zapdos only to finish with Full Blitz and Tag Bolt-GX against decks based around Tag Teams. If you're only running 1 Zapdos, you are going to get 100% aped by anything that runs baby Buzz or Lucario-GX, so, basically, some Zapdos variants, Lost March, and some Zoroark variants, and 2 out of 3 of those are pretty common.
     
  3. Audiofreak19 Aspiring Trainer
    Audiofreak19

    Advanced Member Member

    Also I know it’s not very prevalent but vileplume could still be poking it’s head back with all these basic tag teams. You auto loose to it. I also think you can afford to drop an energy for something else. Also I see you starting with either dedenne, lele or marshadow a lot! I would cut those down and maybe increase the Giovanni by one to make sure you can get rid of them. Another idea is to add a stretcher or two to get dedenne or someone back Incase you need them.
     
  4. TSA123 i play pokeman
    TSA123

    Member

    I personally hate the playstyle of Pikarom/Zapdos and prefer turbo much better.

    I agree with your point on only playing 2 EMR. Gonna cut 1.
    I'm not that worried about Zoroninja going forward because this deck can outspeed simply by KOing Incineroars and dealing with Littens early game with Zapdos or Jolteon GX (which is a card that I'm adding). As with your point with attacking with Zapdos, that's not the main point of this deck. This is a turbo version of Pikarom, it doesn't really focus on getting 2 hit knockouts with Zapdos. It's also not that hard to play around Cario or Buzz with only 1 Zapdos

    Vileplume can be dealt with using Let Loose or Guzma-ing Oddish early game. I'm also not that worried about Plume bc Regi/Hoopa is becoming leagues more popular.

    Here's my changes:
    -1 Volkner
    -1 EMR
    -1 Nest Ball

    +1 Eevee SUM
    +1 Jolteon GX
    +1 Field Blower (helps against ZoroControl to deal with Dumbbells)
     
  5. Audiofreak19 Aspiring Trainer
    Audiofreak19

    Advanced Member Member

    I understand that and I think gigas stall is a better stall than vileplume but it is still out there and if they bench two oddish then you would HAVE to respond with a marshadow and hope and pray the other doesn’t evolve next turn
     
  6. Audiofreak19 Aspiring Trainer
    Audiofreak19

    Advanced Member Member

    I guess I look at decks at a regional level than just league cups. I don’t go to regionals but only play in the monthly pokebeach tourney which there are always stall in there and you never know what variant someone is going to make.
     
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  7. TSA123 i play pokeman
    TSA123

    Member

    I definitely see your point, and Jolteon helps with the Plume MU quite a bit. My list plays a lot of different ways to beat it (Pikarom for Regi/Wailkarp, Marshadow for HAND, Zapdos for Hoopa, Jolteon for Plume), and the only way they can truly respond is by consistently getting Lusamine/Plumeria and the deck just straight up bricking.
     
  8. TSA123 i play pokeman
    TSA123

    Member

    I actually believe that a 1-1 Persian GX line would actually be pretty good in this list. Immediate Teammates is broke.
    Here's my new list:
    Pokemon:
    3x Pikachu & Zekrom GX
    2x Zeraora GX
    2x Dedenne GX
    1x Marshadow SLG
    1x Absol TEU
    1x Tapu Lele GX
    1x Tapu Koko (*)
    1x Tapu Koko GX
    1x Eevee SUM
    1x Jolteon GX
    1x Meowth UNB
    1x Persian GX

    Trainers:
    4x Lillie
    3x Cynthia
    3x Guzma
    2x Volkner

    4x Ultra Ball
    4x Electropower
    4x Energy Switch
    2x Electromagnetic Radar
    2x Choice Band
    1x Nest Ball
    1x Field Blower

    1x Viridian Forest
    1x Thunder Mountain (*)

    Energy:
    11x Lightning Energy
     
  9. iGeek256 I only use Electric types
    iGeek256

    Member

    You need more Volkners, Volkners are insane with Dedenne-GX and Lillie and give you really good flexibility. Here are my suggestions:
    +2 Volkner
    -1 Viridian Forest (not necessary with Volkner)
    Chose between a 2-1 line of Jolteon-GX or Persian-GX and get rid of the other one freeing up 1 space (1-1 lines are not particularly effective)
    +1 Nest Ball (your deck is mostly basics)
    -1 Ultra Ball
    +1 Switch (Volkner can search them and let you move around more effectively)
    -1 Absol (Not a stall deck)
     
  10. TSA123 i play pokeman
    TSA123

    Member

    Volkner is kind of only there to get EMR or Electropower. Running 4 makes the deck extremely clunky imo, especially when you’d rather be using Lillie or Cynthia some turns.
    Viridian is absolutely necessary as a counter to Shrine and Wondrous Labyrinth.
    I guess 2 Nest Ball is fine, but EMR and Ultra Ball are MUCH more applicable to most situations.
    Playing a 1-1 Jolteon is fine bc you have Energy Evolution and don’t have to wait or Ultra Ball to evolve. Persian is a luxury not a necessity and its ability doesn’t stack so a 1-1 is fine.
    Switch isn’t necessary bc the deck plays Zeraora and Guzma.
    Absol is a necessity for the already somewhat difficult Zapdos matchup. It skews the matchup in Pikarom’s favor.
     
  11. Audiofreak19 Aspiring Trainer
    Audiofreak19

    Advanced Member Member

    Also absol helps with the Celisaur match up. Gets rid of the buff padding
     
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  12. TSA123 i play pokeman
    TSA123

    Member

    Honestly didn't even think about that lol, I don't have much Celesaur in my area
     
  13. Audiofreak19 Aspiring Trainer
    Audiofreak19

    Advanced Member Member

    I didn’t think about it either until I accidentally benched it while online and noticed the tool was x’d. Then the light bulb turned on
     

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