Week Four - Grand Reaper Recap
Judging for this one may not be straight-forward, so I'd like to go more into my process for this one in order to make sure everyone fully understands the scoring and no one believes it's improper. This will be a long post.
Proposed Arguments:
The Hostess was the murderer. - Blakers
> Clearly [TE and NP] stuck around long enough and the Hostess decided to kill one of them - Lorde
> There was something bloody on her face, not from a murder, but from a confrontation - NinjaPenguin (Counter-argument)
> Unfortunately I find this hard to believe - Quakingpunch73 (Counter-argument)
> The hostess doesn't abide by the laws of nature - Little Cherrim (Press)
> She has all the keys to this place and could've moved the body - Fiery_Lugia
> The Hostess definitely did this, I cannot think of anyone else who fits that bill - Lorde
> I think the hostess killed TE. - TeamAqua4Life
> So it seems we've decided that the hostess was the murderer, correct? - Fiery_Lugia
> If the Hostess was the murderer, why did she go out of the way to use the glaive? - Quakingpunch73 (Press)
> I'm not sure what the motive is besides bloodlust - Nyan (Press)
> Hermes killed TE. - Blakers (Major counter-argument)
The body was moved. - Fiery_Lugia
> The murder took place in the ceremony room, It depends on when people were in there. - Blakers (Counter-argument)
> I'm gonna agree with this above everything - Lorde (Backs counter-argument)
The Hostess killed him using the Axe of Despair. - Blakers
> If TE was killed with the Axe of Despair, why was it found in his foot - Quakingpunch73 (Counter-argument)
> The glaive killed him - Blakers, implied (Rebuttal)
> If the Hostess was the murderer, why did she go out of the way to use the glaive? - Quakingpunch73 (Counter-argument)
> She could've used another to toy with us, Lorde made that point - Blakers (Rebuttal, backs up previously made statement)
The weapons mentioned last week are involved. - Fiery_Lugia
> I agree with this - Lorde
> Remember it was announced we were given weapons, someone here killed TE - TheR3DX
It clearly wasn't me. - NinjaPenguin
> I have to concede that it's unlikely that NP was involved - Quakingpunch73
A soul of one of the dead could have killed TE. - NinjaPenguin
> You could assume anyone dead wandered out of the house - Lorde (Counter-argument)
> I personally believe that it was Gekki's spirit - Nyan
We can decide that there isn't a murderer among us. - mirdo
> We can't do anything about this. - Lorde (Invalid claim)
The Hostess could kill us quickly without all this. - Little Cherrim
> She wants us to become hostile - Lorde
Hermes killed TE. - Blakers
> Pretty quick to draw a name and narrative. - TheR3DX (Press)
> I disagree with your points. - Quaking (Counter-argument)
> I agree with Quaking. - TeamAqua4Life (Counter-argument, backs up previously made statement)
Argument Assessment
As Blakers, Fiery_Lugia, NinjaPenguin, mirdo, and Little Cherrim are the people making the initial argument claims, their scores will be directly impacted the heaviest.
The Hostess was the murderer. - Blakers
This argument was easily the most heavily agreed upon by the house as a whole. Due to NinjaPenguin's counter-argument not being addressed, and due to a sizable lack of counter-arguments compared to the size of the discussion for this one, it's fairly positive. The house seemed to agree on this for the most part, and no counter-argument was able to outsize or render it invalid.
The body was moved. - Fiery_Lugia
This argument wasn't discussed for very long, and they only discussion it seemed to have was a counter-argument, which was backed by another person.
The Hostess killed him using the Axe of Despair. - Blakers
This was a fun argument because it went back and forth, though only between Blakers and Quaking until Lorde had stated a point for another argument (that being that the Hostess could simply use another weapon to toy with the house) that Blakers had used for his claim, which Quaking didn't counter. However, a consensus was not drawn for this argument, and it was not discussed by the rest of the house.
The weapons mentioned last week are involved. - Fiery_Lugia
This seemed to be a small, but well-backed argument. The house seemed in favour of this argument.
It clearly wasn't me. - NinjaPenguin
Not a very long argument, but one that no one countered.
A soul of one of the dead could have killed TE. - NinjaPenguin
A short back-and-forth argument. However, there doesn't seem to be any evidence supporting it, only personal belief from NP and Nyan, while Lorde based her argument on a logical possibility that was not backed up by evidence.
We can decide that there isn't a murderer among us. - mirdo
This argument was not claimed to be invalid, however at the end of it, the argument was shut down and the rest of the house did not follow up on it.
The Hostess could kill us quickly without all this. - Little Cherrim
This argument seems to be based off personal thought rather than evidence, and wasn't discussed very long.
Hermes killed TE. - Blakers
The foundation for this argument was made very solid. However, no other member of the house had stated any agreement to it, and counter-arguments were given off personal thought. The only significance of this argument is that it can potentially shatter the already existing argument of the Hostess being the murderer, especially when made by the same person, as a major counter-argument.
Final Scoring:
Players of Interest:
Blakers: The one responsible for the early-game and late-game major arguments. Both were very solid, however the latter was clearly a very solid shot in the foot that failed to gain any traction and convict a houseguest of murder.
Lorde: A major contributor to discussion and the heaviest backer of Blakers' claims. Also earns the award of the best post made during the entire competition, however it was used as a counter-argument rather than bringing up a claim to find a consensus.
Quaking: Strong counter-arguing, however none of them seemed to be built on strong evidence besides the argument of the murder weapon, which was not closed.
Fiery_Lugia: Created notable arguments, however they didn't gain as much traction as those made by Blakers.
NinjaPenguin: Deemed innocent, though not adding onto much arguments besides his innocence claim. The argument of a dead killer didn't reach consensus either.
Placement:
3rd place: @Fiery_Lugia for creating notable arguments and proposing solid points of consideration.
2nd place: @Lord o da rings for being the major contributor to most discussions, as well as the highlight of the competition.
1st place: @Blakers, for creating the most major argument by a landslide, and while you countered it at the end, the counter-argument didn't go far enough and weren't directly based off evidence in order to have your original proposal overthrown.
Congratulations Blakers! As this week’s Grand Reaper, you may choose two of your fellow houseguests to tag for death. Your deadline is in 24 hours, or until September 16th at 9:00PM PST and remember to publicly post your tags in this thread!
