Discussion "Obsidian Flames" Partial Set List

N's Rhyperior

N's Rhyperior

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Character rares in French? had been leeked for Obsidian Flames, meaning about bloody time for the partial set list.

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  13. Charmander
  14. Charmeleon
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  23. Eiscue
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  156. Dratini?
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  158. Dragonite ex (Dragon)?
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  202. Cleffa
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  208. Pidgeotto
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  228. Charizard ex (Dark)
 
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N's Rhyperior

N's Rhyperior

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Actually, it wasn't Braysh but a Discord user named, Kieg. I have discord but Discord ain't like Twitter or Facebook so I don't see who am I crediting first
 
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cardgjammer

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Kangaflora said:
If Cleffa is in this set, then hopefully they will bring out Trainer Cards that will permit the Baby Pokémon to evolve. Hopefully, We will see the other 15 Baby Pokémon as well as Cleffa.
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Either that, or add an ability that allows it to evolve into Clefairy. The last thing I want is to see an errata making Clefairy a stage 1 that evolves from Cleffa instead of a basic, as that nerfs the moon watching party Clefairy deck...
 
Kangaflora

Kangaflora

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cardgjammer said:
Either that, or add an ability that allows it to evolve into Clefairy. The last thing I want is to see an errata making Clefairy a stage 1 that evolves from Cleffa instead of a basic, as that nerfs the moon watching party Clefairy deck...
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Now that I actually wouldn't mind as that would technically match the Evolution stage correction that they got when their pre evolved forms were released.
 
N's Rhyperior

N's Rhyperior

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There was a leeked Tera Dark Charizard ex Gold and Dragonite ex recently. But not sure abt the numbering since they're blurry af
 
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Bruno Costa

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That Charizard going around is 228/197, which is very odd since it's a Hyper Rare. The leaked Illustration Rare Lechonk card is 209/197, which would mean there is space for only 19 Ultra Rares and Special Illustration Rares

Scarlet & Violet's first Hyper Rare is 253/198, and the last known card from Paldea Evolved so far is 270/193 (Saguaro), which is a Special Illustration Rare.
 
N's Rhyperior

N's Rhyperior

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Bruno Costa said:
That Charizard going around is 228/197, which is very odd since it's a Hyper Rare. The leaked Illustration Rare Lechonk card is 209/197, which would mean there is space for only 19 Ultra Rares and Special Illustration Rares

Scarlet & Violet's first Hyper Rare is 253/198, and the last known card from Paldea Evolved so far is 270/193 (Saguaro), which is a Special Illustration Rare.
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It is because PAL consists of 3 Japanese sets, which also consists of 36 total Illustration Rares. Since OBF will consists SV3, leftover cards from PAL, and ex decks, that makes Illustration Rares to become 12. Hence the numbering of that Charizard seems so weird
 
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bktan

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The breakdown will either be:
8 FA Pokemon, 4 FA Supporters, 4 SAR Pokemon, 2 SAR Supporters
or
6 FA Pokemon, 4 FA Supporters, 4 SAR Pokemon, 4 SAR Supporters
 
Kangaflora

Kangaflora

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I wonder if they will make Pokémon Tool cards that will allow for Baby Pokémon to evolve, like Baby Evolution Cleffa to allow Cleffa to evolve into Clefairy in this scenario.
 
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beatbox2000

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Here's my prediction based on all available information and leaks:

The 15 ex + 6 tera ex are:
8 ex + 2 tera ex from decks (latter 2 being Dragon Dragonite and Colorless Greedent as the 2 secret decks with tera being the secret)
4 ex are Klawf, Toedscruel, Pawmot and Houndstone from Gym Promos and the special ex set
3 ex + 4 tera ex are from Ruler of the Black Flame (Revavroom + Charizard/Tyra/Eiscue/Vespiquen) with 1 ex being cut for an ex box

Charmander will be a tournament promo like Miraidon/Koraidon since there are all 12 AR here. (12 per JP set and this is 1 set only)

12 full arts are 8 Pokemon 4 Supporters
6 SAR will be all 4 normal ex in the set + 2 Supporters; fits with normal JP set ratios

We know Zard is the gold ex & I think any SAR tera ex will be in the Shiny Treasure special set if at all.

Also guessing Dark Energy gold since Zard Dark is the mascot.

The ratio of JP double sets is 6 ex 3 sar and 4 fa 2 sar for Pokemon/Supporters though Clay Burst/Snow Hazard only gave us 2 supporters with both getting Sar.

Brilliant Stars/Lost Origin/Silver Tempest JP equivalents had 8 V, 4 "AA" so that's why I think it's back to 8 ex and then 4 supporters for this Ruler of the Black Flame/Obsidian Flames set.
 
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