ninja lock. (gliscor, gengar, vileplume)

Aburame Yuki

Aburame Yuki

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Yeah i got a fun idea (or overheard a friend talking ^^ ) about a deck that when once set up it will win. The new gliscor from UD dose 30 damage and paralyzes if the defending pokemon didn't have any damage counters on it. With this and gengar AR (curse) you can do 30 damage and move them to another pokemon every turn and re paralyze them. And with vileplume you wont show any mercy.

I know this might have a slow set up but with 4 rare candy, 3/4 broken time-space and a lot of draw trainers (to speed setup) this might be able within 3 turns (or 2)

I'm really eager to test this up but what trainers and supporters would be good to have?

gliscor
http://pokebeach.com/scans/undaunted/4-gliscor.jpg

gengar
http://pokebeach.com/scans/arceus/16-gengar.jpg

vileplume
http://pokebeach.com/scans/undaunted/24-vileplume.jpg
 
To move 30 damage? That means you'll need three Gengar out. That's three stage-2's, which is going to take a lot of setup time. Plus with Vileplume in play you can't Candy. IMO, running Unown K+Cursegar is better if you want to run this combo. Unown K removes 20 damage from the Defending Pokemon.
 
Dose unown k remove as in heal or move them?
And i wouldn't play out vileplume before i have every thing ready. This is the pokemon list i was planing on using (or something like it)

4-3 gliscor UD
4-2-4 gengar AR
2-1-2 vileplume UD
2 uxie LA (maybe only 1?)

What else would i need? And i don't need all 3 gengar on the field on the first turn since ninja fang paralyzes anyway. I would play 4/3 pokemon communication, 4 quick ball, 3 pokemon collector, 3 bebe's search, 4 rare candy, 3 broken time-space , and other stuff...



 
Unown K heals, but its better than having to setup 3 stage-2 Pokemon. Also, why run 4-3 Gliscor when you could just run 4-4 or 4-3-1?
 
I'll consider unown k but if it heals then i can't really k.o pokemon anytime soon right? It would be 10 damage per turn. And if i can get it i might run a gliscor lv.X.


 
Just to let you people know Unown K is from Secret Wonders so it would have to be unlimited. I do like the idea though put two Unown K on the bench and paralyze the whole game. The only way out of it is to knockout Vileplume or use Warp Energy.
 
Gliscor's right. You'd need to set up three, count 'em, three Gengar PA to actually start doing something. Remember, LuxChomp decks only need to PokeTurn/Level-Up to get rid of Paralysis. Don't tell me, "Oh! But Vileplume blocks it!" Tell me this: what are the possibilities of setting up five Stage-2 Pokemon before the first three turns? You expect to get out the Gliscor, the Vileplume, and three Gengar before your opponent snipes your Vileplume, drags out the Gligar with Bright Look, or donk your starter? Think again.
 
@Espeon: Gliscor is actually a stage-1, but four stage-2's is still ridiculous.

@Afro: That's true, I'm thinking of Unown P. So it's either an unlimited fun deck, or a very slow modified deck.
 
Yeah the possibility of getting every thing set up is not so big, i know. But IF i can get it out i win ^^
I just thought of something! When they evolve they aren't paralyzed any more!! >.<

 
Reminds me of Glisctomb, but requiring alot more set up. On paper it looks bad and in theory it seems like it would be bad considering how many pokemon you need out just to make the deck work, which no amount of trainers and supporters can fix.

If you want to lock use Gliscor lvX + Spiritomb AR + Judge/Innitiative. It won't exactly win all your games but against non-SP decks it can be really annoying.
 
you don't need to move 30 damage each turn. Just use the attack Level X Power to paralyze them. Next turn you use Curse to spread out damage evenly all the while attaching psychic energy to Gengar. when your opponent finally plays Warp Energy or the active is knocked out, bring up Gengar, Level Up, and Compound Pain for win.
 
Thats a really interesting idea. I might try that strategy too, and i could play it as a cursegar too then? It would be a glisctomb, curegar fusion!?!?

 
What was I thinking. Nonetheless, four is still a high number. Especially when you wanna try using Uxie LA for some sort of draw power.
 
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