It is would be influenced by the experiences we've had - for example, some of us may have seen a specific response used by mafians regularly, and not so much town - but this could be an entirely different experience compared to someone else.
I feel like there's a very simple solution here, without us needing to go into WIFOM territory: A few people posted in this thread that Tapu Lele's rolefishing is scummy, and as either mafian (not wanted to be lynched) or innocent (not wanting to be mislynched), Tapu Lele tried to step away from being scummy - the role fishing.
That probably came from some quick advice I gave Lele during Mafia 50. Lele asked NP for some help looking for tells, which NP happily gave. I then gave the disclaimer that you need to think about "why" that tell is scummy in that particular context, otherwise you're really just taking a stab in the dark.
This isn't quite a brilliant way to go about voting / scumhunting - if there's nothing much else, than you really should be asking the questions so that there is in fact much else.
I would genuinely love to know why morda read those posts as town. I cannot think of a single way they can be construed as pro-town.
It's not an unsubstantiated leap; it's a pretty obvious backpedal.
Where?
He already said he won't share it because he doesn't want to trigger an anti-claim mechanic. Why ask again?
I'm curious as to why you think sharing the advantage is a good idea.
*I just realised that there's two ways to read this post - Gekki was telling Lele to stop rolefishing; OR Gekki was telling Lele not respond to your (Jabber's) accusations re: claiming. I read the former.
Now I used to suffer from "Roles mean everything in scum hunting" too but I have to say, to the people who are directing so much attention to the role side of things, you're being p suspicious to me.
Penguinus adsum!
), but I've set up the QT and will send it to all of you to discuss.
Correct, but you didn't have to ask the question in the first place - and that's my point. What motive / reason / point did you have for asking T_E to tell us about his reward?
The fact that you are uncertain / vaguing is a red flag that being outspoken on the effect isn't the best idea, necessary or potentially risky. It's up to you, but that's what I'm feeling.
So... why do you think it would be useful to know? There's obviously more underlying here than just curiosity.
If you don't think Lele should be lynched, then who do you think should be lynched?
Do any of that as much as you wish, but people in the chat can't tell everybody in thread how it's going, distribute secret information or mechanics, or anything similar.
There wasn't really that much––reading through the thread, Lele's backpedal came way out of left field imo. All the quotes you posted are from after the backpedal.
Yep. The latter makes much more sense given context. Specifically the word "claiming", which is directly related to the discussion I started pursuing Lele. The word hadn't been used before then.
Oh come on. Don't dodge the question. We're talking about you asking scummy questions, not whatever answers you get from asking them.
The stage we're at in the game is not remotely related to Lele's role spec habits. He started off this way when he subbed in last game and by the end had realized that it was not a good way to play the game. Now he's back at it. Why is he back at it? Not because it's RVS. The two aren't correlated.
Yeah, this theory just doesn't stand up well for me. For another point, Gekki used the word "claiming" directly after (and as a response to) Lele saying "We still don't know how dangerous claiming is", so it makes more sense to me than Gekki saying something like rolefishing.