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Standard M Rayquaza EX / Sky Field

Discussion in 'PTCG Deck Garage' started by Name: Ace, Mar 23, 2016.

  1. Name: Ace Emerald Break This
    Name: Ace

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    My first deck garage post since my old account from 2013. Just looking for some pointers.

    Pokémon: 20
    • 3 Rayquaza EX- ROS- Mega Ascension
    • 3 M Rayquaza EX- ROS -Emerald Break
    • 3 Shaymin EX- ROS
    • 2 Swablu- ROS
    • 2 Altaria- ROS
    • 2 Vulpix- PRC
    • 2 Ninetales- PRC
    • 2 Hoopa EX- promo
    • 1 Manaphy EX- BRT
    Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums: 30
    • 3 Winona
    • 4 VS Seeker
    • 2 Lysandre
    • 2 Switch
    • 3 Rayquaza Spirit Link
    • 4 Professor Sycamore
    • 3 Sky Field
    • 3 Ultra Ball
    • 2 Mega Turbo
    • 2 Trainers' Mail
    • 1 Coreless
    • 1 Skyla
    Energy: 10
    • 6 Water Energy
    • 4 Double Colorless Energy
    Strategy:

    Looking for Winona, Hoopa, and ultra ball early. Get out sky field asap. Set up the techs. Start Emerald Breaking for 240. I know Metal Ray with Bronzong is a little more efficient for energy gains after KO, or for any discarding to help set up. By I like Manaphy, Altaria, and Tales as my Techs because they all help Ray stay alive with free switches and no weakness. Any feedback will be taken. Thank you. Ace.
     


  2. TuxedoBlack Old School Player
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    You may want to consider adding in 1-2 Sacred Ash... I routinely drop my Parallel City (limiting your bench size to just 3 Pokemon) against Ray decks after opponents fill their benches.
     
  3. GreenPariah Aspiring Trainer
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    Thats why he has Ninetales, but a simple Hex Maniac / Stadium Drop takes care of that.

    I love Altaria in my list, but i play a 1-1 line. I opt for a metal build, soley so i can use Aegislash EX to stop the Mirror, and any Special Energy abusers. I also tech in a 2-2 Raichu line as well. Your list looks solid, but i would definitely recommend either a super rod, or Sacred ash, or both. It is absolutely necessary to get pokemon back after an opponent bumps your skyfield. Also for an ultra consistent build i would recommend a battle compressor build Running lots of One-Ofs of supporters, rather than running heavy supporters. You can Access them via VS Seeker, a T1 Winona off VS for two Shaymin EX and a M Ray is absolutely amazing. Plus you get the added benefit of being able to pull out a Hex Maniac, Xerosic, Lysandre for those clutch plays. The only down side to my type of build, is it gets hurt incredibly by item lock, especially in a format that has a t1 item lock in two different commonly played decks. But even under item lock, my build still fares well, and I'd say it has at least a 50/50 matchup across the board, except in the case of MegaMan Variants or heavy electric decks that use Raikou.
     
  4. SilverSilent Dem Eeveelutions
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    Hi Name: Ace!

    Just for clarity, is this deck meant to be for Standard of for expanded? The reason I ask this is because you have Colress in your deck which is currently out of the Standard rotation and is only in Expanded as of right now. I'd suggest swapping out Colress with a Professor Birch's Observation or a Judge instead.
     
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  5. TuxedoBlack Old School Player
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    Precisely; play the Hex Maniac, then the Parallel City. Item-locking via Trevenant or Vileplume is quite popular in my area; so, IMO, Hex Maniac should be a staple in most decks.
     
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  6. GreenPariah Aspiring Trainer
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    It has been one-of in all my decks since release in every one of my decks. I've been thinking of raising it to two copies in some of them though.
     
  7. bidou Aspiring Trainer
    bidou

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    I ma also playing this deck for a few months, and the "blue" variant is very solid (even if I am more confident in the Electric variant, but it is not the subject here).
    Manaphy EX, Seismitoad EX and a 2-2 Milotic line are great additions to M-Ray.

    I also recommend to play 4 copies of Battle Compressor in order to ensure a T1 Hoopa EX with Buddy-Buddy Rescue, the right Supporter with VS Seeker and the good use of Mega Turbo.

    However, as @GreenPariah said, this deck suffers too much against an item lock Turn 1 (Wally-Trevenant mainly, Vileplume is a little easier to deal with).
    I think it is important to find something to counter this lock.
     
  8. TuxedoBlack Old School Player
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    If you suspect there will be "lots" of players running Trevenant and/or VespiPlume at your next tournament, I strongly suggest you do. Given the recent success of these decks at States, 2 Hex maniac will be useful (I even played Hex Maniac 4 straight turns against a ToadBats deck player which easily helped me to win that matchup).
     
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  9. seeknayr Aspiring Trainer
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    Is it Altaria 53 0r 74?
     
  10. bidou Aspiring Trainer
    bidou

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    Do you really think that a second Hex Maniac will be sufficient to deal with a Trevenant lock ?

    Altaria #74 ;)
     
  11. LiftoffLizard Hoenn Nerd
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    Battle Compressors. If you want a more consistent Mega Turbo, play three Mega Turbo, and four Battle Compressors.
    Another idea is the XY Swellow because you force your opponent to switch, just an idea.
     
  12. yonex13 Aspiring Trainer
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    no need for 4 compressor.
     
  13. TuxedoBlack Old School Player
    TuxedoBlack

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    The second Hex Maniac is mainly to increase my chances of drawing into one after my opponent has Item-locks me on his/her T1; it's just a personal preference.
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2016
  14. yonex13 Aspiring Trainer
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    Here is a decent decklist just happened a week ago.

     
  15. LiftoffLizard Hoenn Nerd
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    I was thinking four compressor and four vs seeker to grab an early game winona or some other supporter.

    Do you think you need three compressors?
     
  16. yonex13 Aspiring Trainer
    yonex13

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    With how much you draw into stuff with Pokemon and thin your deck out with the ultra balls and Hoopa... You dont need more than 3. I find 2 to be successful.
     
  17. LiftoffLizard Hoenn Nerd
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    Ok. What about Seismitoad EX for this deck. You already have the water energy and Toad only needs a dce to attack.
     
  18. yonex13 Aspiring Trainer
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    Definitely something I would add to help with NM matchup. Or would you go Articuno for non-ex?
     
  19. LiftoffLizard Hoenn Nerd
    LiftoffLizard

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    I have tried Articuno, he is useless. Sure you get the prize bonus and all but he really only works well with primal Kyogre because Kyogre powers him up quickly and then swithes to get up to three prize cards.

    The toad is an obviously better play.
     
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  20. yonex13 Aspiring Trainer
    yonex13

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    That was my thought. Definitely Toad.
     

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