'Hidden Fates,' Special Set Releasing in America This August!

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  1. paulyd84 cooltrainerpaul
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    THIS although ive got my sets in all the Ultra Pro Pokemon Albums from BW I wish they would release more Pokemon Ultra Pro Premium products, they did with magic for a while the leather with embossed set logo, only Pro Premium ones they have produced are the Pikachu one and Pokeball, think is an Ultra Ball one on its way - the diamond side loading pages are amazing
     


  2. Yaginku Aspiring Trainer
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    Print them out and stick them to a non-UP portfolio.
     
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  3. The Rhyperior I am still Mr. Rhyperior
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    Cool!

    I think we know what are the Cosmic Eclipse theme decks will be featured, its Kyogre and Groudon from Remix Bout. It is based on the leaked playmat of the theme deck courtesy of some lovely folk out there.
     
  4. Number51x Blasting off at the speed of light!
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    What I can't believe is that we are 10 days out from street date and we still don't really know how the packs are constructed or for sure what's even in the set! If you crack packs this Friday, please share.
     
  5. Kangaflora Aspiring Trainer
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    One thing that I want to know is why are they keeping the setlist a secret. We should of had that by now.
     
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  6. CrownAxe Aspiring Trainer
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    Cause its HIDDEN Fates?
     
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  7. Frost Amethyst AMAB-NB
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    We would only know it by now for a regular set because of prerelease events coming two weeks beforehand. No prerelease, no spoilers.
     
  8. Number51x Blasting off at the speed of light!
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    Seems like we've had full set lists well before pre-releases all the time, so while this wouldn't have a pre-release, having basically nothing at this point is weird. I guess all will be revealed next Friday (or sooner if certain posters here can give us the scoop this Friday).
     
  9. Gameguard Aspiring Trainer
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    There is a video of hidden fates opening.
    All c block supporters prerry much got reprints. Pokemon center lady, lt surge, and so on.
    The reverse spot can hold new gx the rare can be shiny gx or alt fullart trainers
     
  10. Chimecho3000 Aspiring Trainer
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    OMG I was kind of fearing this, but the SV cards take the reverse holo slot, but reverse holos are still a thing (including reverse holo basic energies of the Team Up-on design), so therefore you aren't guaranteed an SV card in pack. RIP collectors....
     
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  11. Frost Amethyst AMAB-NB
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    Oh joy, like we didn't think the Gen 7 pull rate:chase card total was scummy enough.
     
  12. Water Pokémon Master I like Pokemon more than you. :D
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  13. Frost Amethyst AMAB-NB
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    Guesses for the missing spots:
    48 - Any of the many Eevee cards we haven't gotten (gut is the Forbidden Light alt art we never got along with Lady FA)
    52 - Blaine's Last Stand, because all the other Kanto Gym Leaders got reprinted
    63 - Misty's Water Manipulation
    65 - Sabrina's Suggestion, for the same reason as Blaine
    66 - Bird Trio FA
    67 - Giovanni's Exile FA
    68 - Jessie & James FA

    Perfect fits!
     
  14. John Wick Aspiring Trainer
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    Haha

    The said YouTube could be me, or not lol

    Watch me sell the extra boxes for a lot tomorrow on eBay to people desperate to get these earlier than Aug 23 lol...or not lol
     
  15. John Wick Aspiring Trainer
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    What I find appalling is that there's 94 SV cards, and for me to have pulled 8 out of 18 packs is basically less than 50% chance of a SV. It sucks and will have a group that I hang out with, a little over 50 for card matches, to send the company complaints on the pull ratio.
     
  16. RiverShock Aspiring Trainer
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    It's easier to pull a full set of Shiny Vault cards than it is to pull a full set of Full Arts from recent main-set boosters, though. Assuming Shiny Vault shows up 1 in every 3 packs, that's 282 packs on average to get them all. (Obviously assuming no duplicates, but this is just a comparison.) To get all the non-Secret Full Arts from Team Up (which are about 1/18 packs), you'd need on average 414 packs. This comparison is actually probably more in favour of Shiny Vault than that would appear, too, since it includes all 94 cards in that count while I excluded the secrets from Team Up. Odds are Brooklet Hill and on are secret, and I shouldn't have counted them in that comparison.
     
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  17. Skeleton Liar サーナ~
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    So that's why TPCi reserved Moltres & Zapdos & Articuno GX and the Team Rocket-related cards for this set. To make it into a Gen 1 set combined with the Family Box Set and the Brock and Misty decks. Okay. So it's Generations Part 2.

    The pull rates for the Shiny Vault cards are decent, and that's good. But it you whiff on pulling something, you really whiff with this set. Those are some lackluster rares. Sure, you might get Erika's Hospitality. But you also might get a Lapras that does 80 damage for 3 energies. It seems like a very high risk, high reward kind of set. More so than usual.

    I'm still at least looking forward to the ETB, but the main set has kind of made me uninterested to get more products outside of that.
     
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  18. dom Aspiring Trainer
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    You're ignoring the (likelyhood of) individual rarity though, so the odds are a lot worse than a standard set.

    in the video of the 8 SV cards he got. 6 were standard, 2 were full arts. having 75% of all SV cards pulled being the standard cards is unlikely to be a coincidence, not a stretch to think that the non full art SV cards will be much more common than the gx's/fa/gold.

    let's pretend those are the odds.

    1/3 boosters gets you a SV card, then 1/4 of those SV cards will be either a gx or trainer fa

    so you'd get 1(sv) GX for every 12 HF booster packs opened.

    there's 48 (sv) gx's/full arts.assuming no doubles, you'd have to open up 504 HF booster packs to get all the SV gx's.

    Then there's the (again somewhat likely) chance that like in normal sets certain gx's are rarer than others. good chance you'll pull multiple electrode & altaria gx's before you get a charizard gx. Meaning surely we're going to have to open far more than 500 boosters to complete the set.

    then there's secret rares. even if they are half the likelihood they are in normal sets at around 1/60 packs. you'd have to open 180 HF packs to get one.

    Hopefully the more that are opened the less scary the odds will prove to be, but regardless
    considering there's no booster boxes, this will be an insanely expensive set to complete.

    was thinking of completing this set (haven't done a set since evolutions), but might be better to buy 90% of it.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2019 at 4:14 AM
  19. GM DracLord Shadow of Death
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    This basically making the RH especially for the rare harder to find also since they replace it
     
  20. Poke_collector Aspiring Trainer
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    Glad we’re finally getting lady fa. Now to get masked royal fa and the other Zekrom GX cards
     



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