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  1. SeventhPrize Pokemon Player
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    Slowbro's Brilliant Wager has a 1/64 (1.56%) chance of flipping 6 tails in a row and losing the game, assuming a Fliptini is in on the Bench.

    If you choose to reflip Brilliant Wager coin flips with Fliptini each time you only flip 0 or 1 heads, you have a 75% chance of hitting 2 or 3 heads for 200/300 damage (First round of flips has a 50% chance of yielding 2/3 heads; if it fails, then the second round of flips has another 50% chance of 2/3 heads).

    If you do opt for this method of reflipping each time your first round of flips yields 1 or 2 heads, you'll have an expected damage output of 187.5 damage per Brilliant Wager attack, with a 1/16 (6.25%) chance of ending the second round of flips with 0 heads.

    187.5 damage for [W][C][C] with a 1/16 chance of loss sounds on a non-GX sounds decently strong, but the 1/16 loss chance in a game where you're attacking 6 times means you have a 32.11% (1-(15/16)^6) chance of losing on flips.​
     
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  2. TheRealBro.. Venusaur used FlowerPower; his chillness rose 300%
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    Look at that Slowbro art, simple and therefore very effective. This is the real Bro!
     
  3. SubApathy Team Rocket
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    I honestly laughed out loud! That's some good stuff. Victory Star Victini is Slowbros friend...
     
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  4. EpicShonenGuy Aspiring Trainer
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    I am so unlucky that i can see myself using Slowbro's attack with fliptini in play and still flip 3 tails two times lmfao.
     
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  5. Lanstar The Funny Fairy Bug
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    ...And in expanded, you can tech a Slowbro from Breakpoint, so that in case you have 1 prize left, you don't have to risk losing the game - and actually use an attack that guarantees that you'd win the game! :p

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  6. Luplayz The Master of bad Pokemon
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    If you are talking about Victory Star Victini that is also in standard. just with different attacks
     
  7. RisingRaichuu Aspiring Trainer
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    Slowbro is not that bad. With Victini on your bench you are rarely ever going to get 3 tails as long as you're conservative with reflipping, and you can hit 200 pretty easily. You can power it up with Aqua Patch and DCE as well.
     
  8. DaLoc Aspiring Trainer
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    So you need hitmonchan and then hitmonlee to attack first before using hitmontop. That kinda stinks.
     
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  9. boyishgoodlooks Aspiring Trainer
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    I know it is mathematically unlikely, but I have to laugh at the auto loss possibility.
     
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  10. sw_bionic Aspiring Trainer
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    and I thought this machoke's attack was risky haha

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  11. Seank Never Give Up
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    Contrary Malamar would be Slowbro's nemesis or auto-loss, shy of Garbodor...

    Hitmontop is interesting and could work with Marshadow Gx as a pivot...

    Or

    Combine Porygon Z for a turn 2 sweep...
     
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  12. Kontoleon Aspiring Trainer
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    1)Slowbro is risk attacker! Normally victini should work here (i hope that you can reflip the coin if you have 3 tails and victini)
    And 1/64 to lose is HIGH but is enought reson to risk it! I mean if you go 6 times in a game(basic attacker vs Non GX deck) you need at least 6 attacks to win so 1-(65/66)^6= 9% and if you need more attacks more risk. But with 120 Hp in Stage 1 you may lose anyway against non Gx decks

    But at least if you are behind and lucky you can win vs Gx decks. is so funny anyway

    The spread 60 is fine i mean we have decks to try split damage but this attack is really very specific,
     
  13. Alex Sableye Official Pokemon Connoisseur of the Unova Region
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    *documentary voice* And here we see the wild Slowbro, mocked and humiliated. It will show them in time, however. It will show them all...
     
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  14. TheBossBlastoise I rule the PokeSea
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    Worst possi ble punishment even worse than vbeing grounded for life and getting 2nd in fortnite combined
     
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  15. Xenth Aspiring Trainer
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    I don't think people here realize that if you use Victini to re-flip, your odds of losing on the reflip are not 1/64, but 1/8... It's 1/64 if you only reflip on triple tails and you're looking at the probability of losing on each attack. If you reflip whenever you don't like your result, your odds of losing are 1/8 because you are stuck with your final result.
     
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  16. Water Pokémon Master I like Pokemon more than you. :D
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  17. TatsuyaOrimuta Aspiring Trainer
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    huh this is pretty nice with naganadel or even baby blastoise from team up
     
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  18. Swampert Full Art #GROOKEYGANG
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  19. gema5 Aspiring Trainer
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    With vaporeon gx and naganadel, this will be an slower, but very much stronger and much much bulkier blacephalon.
    If you decide to retreat with that item which heals your water mons for 30hp, surely you'll have a long time alive
     
  20. EXCELLENT CARD. This will be great with the new Blastoise.
     
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